User talk:Rowdytimothy

From BoxRec
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Nice work on The Ring special issues. Thanks! I hope you will also scan and upload the Tables of Contents (TOCs) in time, too. --Ric 23:56, 13 January 2007 (CST)

Thanks again! Great work you are doing. --Ric 12:54, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Tables of Contents

I can't read the text of some of these TOCs you are uploading, such as here. Can you re-can them, so that they are readable? The TOCs are useful for researchers and boxing historians. Here's a good example of what we are doing. --Ric 13:08, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Boxer Page Formatting

You ask me: "Have you thought about setting up the fighter pages similar to how they have them on Wikipedia. For example, I like how they have the box in the upper right with a photo and relevent stats and the fighters record. I'm not saying to copy it, but something similar." Answer: that lay-out is fine for boxers who have a lot of information/text to put on their pages. But most, or many, of our boxer pages have just the stats and maybe a photo. If the photo was on the right, and stats on the left, there would be such a wide and empty gap of white space. Keeping the photo and stats together on the left just looks more compact and better--again, at least for those pages that do not contain a lot of text. Anyway, we "do our own thing" over here, as was said by some Editor long ago when we first started this boxing wiki, although we try to copy the main wiki's guidelines in all other respects. --Ric 10:57, 28 January 2007 (CST)

Ring Magazine's Boxing Hall of Fame

Nice work on the Ring Magazine's Boxing Hall of Fame page. --Ric 12:33, 28 January 2007 (CST)

You are now a fellow Administrator

After observing your contributions since you joined the BoxRec Wiki team, it is clear you know what you are doing. And you have been contributing quality material. You have "earned your wings." I am therefore making you a fellow Administrator, with the ability to delete pages yourself, among other "powers." Congratulations!

Middleweight Ratings for 1930 & 1931

Tim, do you have access to the middleweight ratings for 1930 & 1931? We have both years identical here. --Ric 17:34, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Reorganizing RING's Annual Ratings

So, what was the reasoning behind completely revamping these pages. How are the changes such a major improvement that it required such a major over-haul? And don't you think you might have run the idea by your fellow Admins first? --Ric 20:48, 22 March 2007 (CDT)

Ric, I don't think I completely revamped these pages and I did not think it was a major overhaul. I did not eliminate or delete any information that was already present. I thought I was improving the layout of the Annual Ratings and simplifying them by eliminating an extra link and putting the years for each division on the main page just like the breakdown per decade. I thought it would be easier to navigate. I apologize if I offended you or any of the other administrators. -- Wade

World Title Lineages

Tim, rather than putting World Champion pages under the new category you created, should we not use instead the "generic" divisional World Champions category I suggested to fellow Editor Casey here? (See my test page for welter champs, before Fosho got involved in all this by attempting to change the category.) --Ric 19:15, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

"Comments" Section

Why does every boxer page with some note now need to have a separate "Comments" section, that only adds unnecessary text as far as I'm concerned. Pages should be relatively concise. I really do not see the need to add this "headline." --Ric 20:38, 25 April 2007 (CDT)

After Morales beat Pacquiao he was rated above him, it was only untilMorales lost to Raheem - The Latin Snake

KO Magazine

You did a wonderful job on those KO mag pages! --Ric 19:00, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

Re: Ted

I got a bit frustrated with Ted and his contributions early on, until I learned by an e-mail that he is an "elder," as we say, who is trying his best with his very limited and new PC skills. (I think he may have been an "old-timer" boxer himself. At the least, he personally knows some of the old-time British boxers and managers.) It is taking him a while to catch on to all this new technology and HTML codes and so on. P.S. I love what you have been doing with the KO and Boxing Illustrated pages. (Also, e-mail me at [email protected]). --Ric 19:44, 3 November 2007 (CDT)



you don't just put any bout in there you put the ones with significiance in those categories!

Juarez vs. Diaz

Curious as to why you renamed this page? Brett 16:25, 6 January 2008 (CST)

From whom did you hear that from? I have heard of no such ruling or understanding. The intent of the quote was to help in differentiating between "Chelo" and "Tono" Diaz. There are several other pages with quotes in the title. Also curious as to why some other page names have been reversed (such as Donaire vs. Darchinyan). What is the reason for this?

My "understanding" is that if you intend to rename an existing page, you should check with the previous updaters first (witht he exception of fixing obvious errors).Brett 17:04, 6 January 2008 (CST)

Once Again, Nice Work!

You are doing some wonderful stuff. I particularly like the new tables, such as is found in the Ring Magazine Fight of the Year and related pages. --Ric 16:57, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Roger Vaisburg

Why was his page changed to Robert Vaisburg? Did you find evidence that Roger was not his correct name? Brett 12:53, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Title Fights Set-up

I used your set-up for Ring Magazine Fight of the Year to make a WBO Middleweight Title Fights page. Let me know what you think. I can't tell if I like this way, or the way other Title Fights pages are by just listing them with no box, i.e. WBC Super Middleweight Title Fights. Thanks. Nwwebber 21:59, 21 February 2008 (CST)

FYI This is the code to view the correct Logo / Banner for the WBA (PPJP)

Year Categories

Hi, I'm not sure having year categories is a good idea. Every bout could have to be categorised in this way and then each year category would become huge, 10,000+ and essentially meaningless. Also what next ? it could be "days of the week" or "fights during a full moon". JohnShep 16:21, 25 February 2008 (CST)

I Agree With John re: Year categories

I know that you were not the one to start these year categories, but I agree with John. Visit the list of Categories pages.

Looking Good

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that the sanctioning body pages and links to champions and title fights are great, exact idea I was thinking just executed better, haha. I was a little worried when you deleted it, but it's much better this way. Also, do you know what to do about all the fight pages updating the information from the fight listings page and pretty much duplicating what is already written? If you make any kind of minor edit at all it does this. It's great for new pages but crappy for the 1000's of already done ones. Is this feature staying? Thanks! Nwwebber 02:36, 26 February 2008 (CST)

Just so You know. The only codes added without additional information were those that I was waiting for a confirmation on. Red

Please Create Individual Gallery Categories

Rowdy, I am creating new "Image gallery categories," as you can see. I am adding new gallery category code to each image I come across, but I am not taking the time, at this time, to actually insert the necessary code into each new boxer image "gallery" I create as a result. So, if you have the time, please insert the necessary category code for each new boxer image gallery I create, while I spend my time adding the "gallery category" code to each image I find. The code one would enter for images of Jack Dempsey would be:

Images featuring [[Jack Dempsey]]

[[Category:Photo Gallery|Dempsey, Jack]]

--Ric 23:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Jr. Spellings

It is customary these days to omit the comma when spelling a junior's name. (I've noticed this in newspapers, magazines, and books over the past many years. This also holds true to spelling a senior's name.) So, for example, it would be: "Floyd Mayweather Jr." or "Roy Jones Jr." I see that within the past few weeks you changed the spellings to include the comma (Floyd Mayweather, Jr.) or at least deleted "redirects" to the non-comma alternative spelling. BTW: Are you having as much fun as I am contributing to this Wiki? It seems you are. --Ric 05:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


Don't move boxers with hyphens in their names (like Koreans) if it isn't reflected in the BoxRec database. John Sheppard had it in the program at one time to zap all non-letter characters, which zapped the hyphens of many boxers. These boxers should have hyphens in their name irregardless of what BoxRec shows.--Matt Tegen 22:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Default Sort Code

I am not familiar with that "Default Sort" code I see you entering. As I understand it, that code is useful for when there are a number of categories in a person's page, but is it really necessary when there is only one category? By that I mean, is it necessary to amend people's pages to include this default code if all they have is just the one category? Just wondering. --Ric 22:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Succession Date Changes & Thumbs

What was the impetus for changing the format of the succession dates? This being a site of English origin, I thought the default was the European date format. Did you have a discussion with other Editors that I failed to notice where you all decided to change the date format? Or is something you took upon yourself, all by yourself, to change? Also, does every photo now need to be "thumbed"? --Ric 00:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the explanation, RT. I guess one point I would make is that, before making such sweeping changes all on your own, you should get a consensus from other Editors, or at least have some sort of a discussion. (And "thumbs" do seem to be the preferred format of the main Wikipedia, even though we often "do our own thing" here at the BoxRec Wiki.) --Ric 01:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

When did Roy Jones's reign as WBA heavyweight champion end?

Rowdytimothy, you changed the date when Roy Jones's reign as WBA heavyweight champion ended from 2004 Feb 20 to 2003 Nov 8. Are you sure that this is correct? John Ruiz won the vacant interim title on December 13, 2003 and was only upgraded on February 20, 2004 according to his boxer page. Why shouldn't he have fought for the full version of the title in December 2003 if Jones had really relinquished it in November 2003 already?--Emaster 23:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Multifight series

I find that you are not checking to see if a bout was a 2nd, 3rd, etc. meeting between a fighter, when you move the page to a bout name (See: Fitzsimmons vs. Jefferies or Rodriguez vs. Cokes)--Matt Tegen 19:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

NBA & NYSAC World Title Bouts

I don't quite understand the reason behind making such "global" changes of the NBA and NYSAC world title bouts and pages. Were such changes really necessary? And, once again, did I miss out on an Editor discussion where the end consensus was to make these changes? Or was this something you came up with on your own? Just wondering. --Ric 03:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Howdy, Rowdy. By "global," I meant such wide-ranging and comprehensive changes. As you know, this wiki encyclopedia is the sister to the BoxRec database. And BoxRec uses the word "World" with respect to the NBA and NYSAC. See here and here. --Ric 13:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Boxing Federation Champions

Could I impose upon you to please delete this page:

I created it by error. Thank you --Reenthelawman 23:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Powell vs. Perez Light Middleweight fight in 1991

Rowdy, I saw that you've added this fight to the NABO title fights. I hadn't included it because my information was that the NABO was created in 1994 only. The sequence of title fights in all categories seems to confirm this (there are no NABO title fights before 1994). Do you have any specific information regarding the Powell vs. Perez fight that brought you to conclude otherwise?--Reenthelawman 23:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

NYSAC Bantam Title

According to Mike DeLisa, in a BoxRec "Editors' Only" posting, the NYSAC bantam lineage is:
Joe Lynch won the title the first year of the Walker law, 1920.

NYSAC stripped Lynch and warded it to Joe Burman who lost to Abe Goldstein (1923)

Eddie "Cannonball" Martin beat Goldstein in 1924 and in 1925 he lost to Rosenberg, who also held the NBA title.

Immediately prior to Panama Al Brown, Charley Rosenberg still held the title, but NYSAC stripped him for collusion with Bushy Graham. Graham the won the NBA title, and I beleive NYSAC recognized him in 1928. He gave it up in early 1929.

So it was Lynch, Burman, Martin, Rosenberg and Graham prior to Brown.

That WIKI entry misses the importance of the AEF rules from the tournaments held 1918-1919, which set weight divisions and led to the Walker law. --Ric 18:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Should we include the USBA?

Dear Rowdy, I see you've taken the time of formatting the North American tables I created (NABF, NABA, NABO) and thank you very much for that.

In every weight category, you've inserted links to the other sanctionning bodies, but I was wondering whether the USBA should be included there. Its not a North American sanctionning body, as it only sanctions fights involving American boxers.--Reenthelawman 01:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Why the move?

Just curious, for future reference, as to why you moved (Ricardo Lopez vs. Hideyuki Ohashi moved to Hideyuki Ohashi vs. Ricardo Lopez)? --Sweetscientist 02:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

'Al Weil'

When one performs a search of "Al Weil," not knowing the correct spelling, "Al Weill" does not come up in the search results. That's why I had a "re-direct," which you have since deleted. --Ric 23:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Boxing Illustrated / Boxing Digest

Simply wonderful and top-quality work you are doing on this project. Well done, and THANK YOU! --Ric 04:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey, Rowdy. I like what you did to add the IBHOF logo to its inductees' pages. Have you considered also adding the WBHOF logo to its inductees' pages? I realize the IBHOF is the more famous/prominent of the two, probably because it has an actual building and promotes itself more, but the WBHOF is the elder of the two. --Ric 02:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Nigel Benn

Dear Rowdy, I wanted to add the category "Commonwealth Boxing Council Middleweight Champions" to Nigel Benn's page, but it is locked. Could I impose on you to do it?

Thank you. --Reenthelawman 22:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for making the change Rowdy--Reenthelawman 23:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome Back!

Wondered where you were and thought you were gone for good. Welcome back! --Ric 02:47, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Your E-mail Address

Please e-mail me at [email protected] Someone is looking for the two articles on women's boxing that appeared in the Aug and Sept 1974 Boxing Illustrated. Would you be able to scan those and e-mail them to me? --Ric 01:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)