[quote="meade95"][quote="Terence"][quote="Decagon"]Now, I'm one of the people that puts an asterix in my head next to the phrase "Bowe-Holyfield II." I'm far from a Bowe fan, but Bowe had all the momentum when Fan Man crashed into the ring. The only reason the...

[quote="Decagon"]If a prime Holyfield could lose to Riddick Bowe, couldn't he lose to Lennox Lewis?[/quote] A 30 yr old Holyfield is not prime Holyfield, first of all. At 30, he was about due, finally, don't you think? Lewis got clocked by McCall at about that same time anyway. Now, the Ho...

[quote="ebeneezer"][quote="meade95"] Holyfield did not take steroids. [/quote] Sure. And I suppose Lee Haney was just employed by his camp to offer nutritional tips. Did you see Evander's physique in the second Tyson fight? I'm sure he swelled out like that by simply eating right...

[quote="Ally-M1"]Looking through the history books, Marciano was a chronic fouler and we know that Holyfield has been a big fan of the headbutt in the past so I would expect a rough contest with point dockings and possible a DQ either way... However, should nobody get thrown out, i'll sett...

Holyfield was a legit cruiserweight champion who also won the heavyweight championship three times. That won't ever happen again in your lifetime, not even close, zip-a-dee-dooh-dah dingle-berry #1, Eric. You'll be dead and gone by then, if it possibly even could happen again. Remember Professor X t...

1. Holyfield- by far 2. Hopkins- KO's Jones in the rematch in '99, NO DOUBT, easier than you realize now, maybe, unless you're in the Jones Mickey Mouse Club 3. DelaHoya- clumsy, as Mosley proved, but strong, fast, and iron chinned 4. Mayweather- Floyd didn't raise no pussy 5. Jones- talented but hi...

Okay, the Holyfield that fought Stewart I or Douglas KO's any version of Lewis like a nasty motherfuckker. Face down. Hard core. KTFO Lennox Lewis should know better than anybody how lucky he was to catch an old ass 37 yr old Holyfield. Hey, but Holy looked okay, considering...duh... Prime Holyfield...

I have to agree with what barry wrote because I reached that same conclusion long ago. Now, some of you really underrate Holyfield's power. Holyfield regularly sent guys thru the ropes in spectacular fashion. Lets see: Qawi, McDonough, Tyson, Bowe, Moorer, Ruiz Stay away from the ropes, 185 lb. Rock

[quote="ebeneezer"][quote="theone"][quote]Rocky had a huge edge in power,very good stamina,and was awkward.[/quote] I don't believe the Rock had that much of an advantage in power, if any at all. I think his power is exaggerated. Most of the top fighters he ko'd were were not gra...

Holyfield-Tyson II still holds the record for most PPV buys, I believe. That was shaping up as one hell of a slugfest too (until Tyson realized that he was 'gonna get KTFO again and turned straight up bitch). ... ... Everybody knew that they were going to get their moneys worth for Hagler-Hearns (an...

Vastly underrated light-heavyweight. Lightning, strong jab that he put a lot into, as displayed against Holyfield I, and smooth, heavy combinations in a way that can't be taught (you have a smooth offensive style or you don't) as displayed against Botha.

[quote="dr_devious"]If Holyfield (possibly past his prime) beats Tyson twice, Joe Frazier definitely does. Frazier had balls of steel, fought to the death, and a devastating left hook. He'd take Tyson out in 7 or 8 rounds[/quote] Holyfield was "possibly past his prime" against Ty...

'87 Tyson was fairly swift of foot...very active upper body movement...trained by Cus specifically to be an aggressive, pressure, all-action boxer.

Jones just might make it into the 2nd... the 2nd minute of rd. 1 that is.

Bernard Hopkins. Showed the upper body movement of a young Pernell Whitaker, throughout nearly all rounds, against Jermaine Taylor 2X. Backed that up in a breeze against Tarver. Of course, his footwork, at his age no less, was top-notch...better, arguably, most probably, than even PBF Mayweather, th...

Louis- Heavy handed first and then flash with it. Ali- Flash style and surprisingly heavy handed...GREAT, RARE, LITERALLY ONE IN A MILLION PUBLIC SPEAKER Holyfield- Right hand, left hand, footwork, jab, chin...he rates above average in all categories, like no other heavyweight champion ever has...Al...

[quote="Ezzard"]If there's one thing that's odd about boxing it's that top fighters can co-exist and never face one another.[/quote] Right. In the end, Mike Tyson turned off millions of people from watching boxing... but absolutely what is turning me off is the way good fighters regularly ...

Aren't you the big Gamache fan, BoxBuzz? That guy was a bum. Stick that one up your ass. Lewis wasn't more skilled than Holyfield. Holyfield would have KOed Lewis (Tyson too) had they fought in '92. Make no mistake, Holyfield had been thru the wars by 2000. That was Holyfield WAY on the down side, a...

[quote="elmersalsa"][size=18]There is NO DOUBT that Holyfield is the greatest fighter of the 3. Tyson though, was the most FAMOUS and with the greater impact I put it like this: 1. Best of the 3 pound per pound: Holyfield 2. Most Historical and with greater impact: Tyson 3. Better record o...

[quote="Decagon"][quote="Professor X"]Mmm-hmm. And Michael Spinks, a great lightheavyweight, came up and beat an old Holmes. Is he in your top-25 heavyweight list? [/quote]Yes.[/quote] Whoah. Okay. Louis Ali Marciano Dempsey Holyfield(that guy that flattened Douglas was really fa...

[quote="meade95"][quote="dempseyfire"][quote="meade95"][quote="Les Darcy"]I think Frazier stops him in a war. Holyfield would be made to fight on the inside with Frazier and Joe would outwork him. Holyfield was never the hardest fighter to hit, although he had...

[quote="Decagon"]No, someone was suggesting that Gene Tunney wasn't one of the top 25 heavyweights of all time, because the best fighter he beat - an old Jack Dempsey - probably would have lost to Jimmy Young, Chris Byrd, or any fairly competent heavyweight. I was pointing out that he was ...

First, for the record, I would have Liston and Tunney in my top-25, pundit. Chris Byrd is an afterthought...but he is/was a very successful, longtime heavyweight. Barring that, elmersalsa has the most accurate list (yes, I do agree with Dempsey at no.5). But Chris Byrd (and a few other good, but jus...

Actually, pundit, only a fool would say that Liston did live up to the hype. It's a long way from being called possibly the greatest ever, like Liston was in '62, to throwing a fight that involved the heavyweight championship. That's a dog...like Tyson. Chris Byrd could upset an old, content Jack De...

[quote="pundit"][quote="bigzab"][quote="Professor X"][quote="elmersalsa"][size=18]My top 25 heavyweights: 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Jack Johnson 4. Rocky Marciano 5. Jack Dempsey 6. Evander Holyfield 7. George Foreman 8. Larry Holmes 9. Joe Frazier 10. L...

[quote="elmersalsa"][size=18]My top 25 heavyweights: 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Jack Johnson 4. Rocky Marciano 5. Jack Dempsey 6. Evander Holyfield 7. George Foreman 8. Larry Holmes 9. Joe Frazier 10. Lennox Lewis 11. Ezzard Charles 12. Jersey Joe Walcott 13. Mike Tyson 14. Riddick Bo...