McCall-Seldon

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Ambling Alp
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McCall-Seldon

Post by Ambling Alp »

ESPN Classic replayed McCall-Seldon a couple of nights ago. I missed it when it actually happened , but I wasn't going to watch it, since it really didn't interest me that much. I am glad that I did.

At the time, neither guy had really established himself. McCall had always lost when he had fought someone decent and Seldon hadn't fought anyone decent at that point.
Both guys came to fight. Seldon used his jab fairly effectively in the early rounds and occasionally landed a big shot. McCall as well showed some boxing skills that he had but doesn't always utilize throughout his career.

Seldon seemed to be winning after 4 rounds though it was pretty close. In round 5 , they began to go at it toe to toe. One thing surprised me. Seldon shook up McCall a little bit. McCall wasn't in major trouble, but still he had a great chin and it showed that Seldon had some power.
Round 5 was Seldon's round. However, the tide began to turn in round 6. McCall began to take over, although Seldon still occasionally got a good shot in.
McCall did hurt Seldon with some flush shots, but it was a little surprising that Seldon didn't crumble, given his reputation as having a glass jaw.
However, from then on McCall began to take control and Seldon began to tire in the 7th round. By the 9th round, Seldon was ready to go and McCall took advantage. McCall jumped all over him and knocked him down 3 times, winning the fight via the 3 knockdown rule.

All in all it was a good fight. I don't want to oversell this as a "Classic" because it wasn't. (even though it was on ESPN Classic :D

However, it was a surprisingly good fight with more than average action.

I was wondering if anyone else saw this fight and what they thought of it?
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Post by overhand_right »

Your account of both guys is pretty off. Seldon was highly regarded and regularly got colum inches along with the batch of up and comers (Bowe, Moorer, Mercer, Morrison-- Lewis was being ignored) & had an impressive quick win over Jose Ribalta. Seldon was supposed to win.

McCall was a known Tyson sparring partner and had acquitted himself well with more respected & experienced contenders like Buster Douglas (L10) and Orlin Norris (LSD10).

The Seldon fight was one of the earliest fights where McCall started putting it all together and looking like a serious contender. The way he bashed up Damiani in 1993 signalled the arrival of the fully rounded McCall fighting style.

Seldon had been out partying and McCall outlasted him & pounded him in that 9th rd.
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Post by Ambling Alp »

I don't see how my account of the two was pretty off.
I said McCall had lost when whenever he had fought anyone decent up to that point. He lost to Douglas and Norris and hadn't beaten anyone of note.

I said that Seldon hadn't fought anyone decent. I wasn't really considering Jose Ribalta to be decent, but I suppose some people would. I guess it depends on how good a fighter has to be to be considered decent. Maybe I should have just said that McCall was his biggest test to date.

What I was trying to say was that it was a big fight for both of them early in their careers. Neither were serious contenders yet, but would be. (Of course each went on to win a title belt.) Both were going for their biggest win to date.

I agree that McCall did seem to put it all together in this fight.
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Post by overhand_right »

Cool-

but Ribalta had gone 10 with Tyson & was coming off an SD loss to an in-shape Witherspoon. He was well regarded at the time so for a prospect to make him quit on his stool after 3 rds was an eyebrow raising result.

Seldon also fought through a broken hand to beat David Bey and outpointed former world champ Ossie Ocasio before this.
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Post by dempseyfire »

Terry D wrote:Seldon's fragility had also been seen before this fight. He could get tagged and switch-off.

I think McCall did well in this bout. Problems with his eyes, I think because Seldon flicks his jab out but this leaves Seldon's elbows up and his guard open through the middle.

Credit to McCall for finding the left uppercut and using it to effectively make Seldon quit on his shield.

Don't think McCall was hurt. In the 5th he took four right hands in one sequence but seemed more concerned about his eyes and held a little inside.

Oliver, though, had managed to fight late-on against Douglas and was well adept for a late rally. Commentators made a lot of how hurt he had been at times but there was no evidence of it and he also hit Seldon to the body with the right when the end came.

McCall's chin is iron. They should mine it and make space shuttles with it.
McCall had a great chin, but I have seen him hurt in fights (though not badly). In the first few rounds vs Bruno for example, Frank had him pretty stunned several times.
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Post by BoxBuzz »

I have Seldon read a better account of this fight....at least as best as I can McCall.
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