Who will be P4P no.1 after Floyd??

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Post by Phenomenal-Nutrition »

I don't think theres a clear number 1 BUT Juan Diaz and Cotto look like the top choices. If Juan Diaz gets a shot at Pacquaio/Marquez/Hatton and pulls off the win he has to be up there. Juan Diaz for me looks a very special fighter the way hes well schooled while being a none stop punching machine. Diaz would batter Pacquaio. He may beat Hatton but I'm not sure about that because Hatton is allot stronger, but I would pick Diaz over Hatton at this stage
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chesh wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mayweather is very unusual in that respect however, in that he remains unbeaten. Even Ray Leonard had the loss to Duran on his resume by that stage, though Mayweather has never had to face anyone of that calibre. Hatton and Castillo are the closest he's faced and neither comes close. DLH is a very good, nay great fighter (in his era), but he's not quite of the calibre of Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler.

Anyone else give Oscar a chance in the rematch?
I was one of a small minority who had Oscar winning the first fight. Many forget that even the judges had Floyd winning only by SD. Oscar blocked a lot of Floyd's shots with his gloves, despite what the punch stats were. If Oscar hadn't forgotten to jab in the later rounds, he'd have won comfortably.

I hope DLH's taking the re-match because he feels he can do better and not just for financial reasons. What weight is it at? Floyd's got a belt at 147, whereas DLH is currently without one. Not sure Oscar can make 147.
Oscar seems to think he can, although the rumour is a catch weight of 150.

For what it's worth, I have always insisted the fight was a draw. After watching it in the arena and on DVD, I still get the same result (one point different than Ian Darke).
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
chesh wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mayweather is very unusual in that respect however, in that he remains unbeaten. Even Ray Leonard had the loss to Duran on his resume by that stage, though Mayweather has never had to face anyone of that calibre. Hatton and Castillo are the closest he's faced and neither comes close. DLH is a very good, nay great fighter (in his era), but he's not quite of the calibre of Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler.

Anyone else give Oscar a chance in the rematch?
I was one of a small minority who had Oscar winning the first fight. Many forget that even the judges had Floyd winning only by SD. Oscar blocked a lot of Floyd's shots with his gloves, despite what the punch stats were. If Oscar hadn't forgotten to jab in the later rounds, he'd have won comfortably.

I hope DLH's taking the re-match because he feels he can do better and not just for financial reasons. What weight is it at? Floyd's got a belt at 147, whereas DLH is currently without one. Not sure Oscar can make 147.
Oscar seems to think he can, although the rumour is a catch weight of 150.

For what it's worth, I have always insisted the fight was a draw. After watching it in the arena and on DVD, I still get the same result (one point different than Ian Darke).
Thanks, Emerson. I re-watched it several times and eventually re-scored it after being ridiculed for judging Oscar the winner. Giving Floyd the benefit of the doubt in a couple of rounds, I managed to come up with a draw.
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Post by black panther »

What about Guzman? :box: I think he beats Pacquaio you know....
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Post by harrygreb »

molitor - watch this space
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Post by Lenny »

I agree Molitor looks a fine boxer but he has yet to face Ponce de Leon, Caballero, Marquez or Vazquez. He should be a long way off in p4p discussions (although this could change IF he gets the fights)
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Post by Southpaw Stylist »

I believe this problem stems from the current amateur system failing to produce world class professional boxers. If you look at the last Olympics that America did well in, namely, 1996 you will see that was the last one where the rounds were 3x3 min rounds as opposed to 4x2 min rounds. This is an overlooked reason, but I think it is THE main reason why there is a short fall of real pound for pound talent.
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