Which active fighters belong in the Hall of Fame now

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 27 Jan 2004, 20:13

I think the one drawback about the Hall of Fame is that fighters have to be retired before they are selected. Okay, I can see the reasoning in that. We only have to look at Michael Nunn - currently on trial for cocaine dealing - and Don Curry, two potentially great fighters who bombed, to see that.
But some fighters are so great it doesn't matter what happens at the tail-end of their careers. Evander Holyfield deserves to be in there NOW in my opinion. So does Roy Jones, Johnny Tapia and Arturo Gatti. Any other additions?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Jan 2004, 20:24

Barerra for me has done just enough, Toney may do before he's done. Holyfield, Lewis, Tszyu possibly, RJJ, Hopkins will make it, DLH, Mosley, depends on what he does from now on, not done enough yet, Chavez (still active just about), Tyson (for being youngest heavy champ ever if nothing else), Larry Holmes, not long retired.

I reckon Gatti might get in there, it's not just based on achievement.

Sadly, Ottke may make it in too. Let's hope not.

The REAL McCoy · Post by **The REAL McCoy** » 27 Jan 2004, 20:27

Erik Morales

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Jan 2004, 20:29

I think Morales could go on to well and truly surpass Barrera's achievements.

The REAL McCoy · Post by **The REAL McCoy** » 27 Jan 2004, 20:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think Morales could go on to well and truly surpass Barrera's achievements.

You could be right, as he looks good at Super Featherweight and will most likely be in a few more superfights before he retires

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Jan 2004, 22:06

I think he might go on to rule that division, he's big enough, and if anything looks like he might be stronger at that weight, it's odd how everyone kind of forgot about him, even though he gave Barrera hell in both fights, and Barrera went on to be the big noise.

There's a lot of good fights out there for Morales, and I wouldn't put my money on anyone beating him with any certainty. He's still remarkably only 27 too!

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 28 Jan 2004, 05:41

Holmes
Ricardo Lopez (OK i know he's retired but he's not eligible yet)
Barrera
Tyson
RJJ
Hopkins
Toney

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 28 Jan 2004, 05:52

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think Morales could go on to well and truly surpass Barrera's achievements.

IMO he already has.... Time will now prove he was always the better fighter.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 28 Jan 2004, 06:15

Holmes ( not already in there?? )
Tyson
Lewis
Barrera
Morales
Toney
Jones
Holy
Hopkins
Mayweather
ODH

Holmes belongs in there now, the rest are a good bet to be eventualy in there.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Jan 2004, 06:24

Holmes hasn't been retired long enough yet. I forget how long it is you have to be retired for, but Holmes fought last year don't forget, and hasn't been out of the ring for more than 2 years since he lost to Spinks the second time.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 28 Jan 2004, 06:42

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Holmes hasn't been retired long enough yet. I forget how long it is you have to be retired for, but Holmes fought last year don't forget, and hasn't been out of the ring for more than 2 years since he lost to Spinks the second time.

You have to be retired 5 years.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jan 2004, 08:07

RJJ, - self explanitory
Holyfield, -self explanitory
Lewis, - self explanitory
Tyson - although extra cercullar activities is against him.
Barrera, Two weight champio, fantastic record.
Hopkins, Record Middlweight defensive.
DLH, - 6 time world champion
Toney, - three weight world champion
Lopez, - Legend, one of the greatest fighters of all time.
Alvarez, - Long serving champion, who is vastly underated because of Lopez.
Trinidad - 3 weight world champion.
Morales - 2 weight world champion with a great record.
Tapia - 3 weight world champion.
Medina - 5 times feeatherweight champion
Tszyu - two time Light Welterweight champion, undisputed.
Moseley - 3 time world champion.

Close to the list.
Gatti, - 2 time world champion
Naz, - long reigning #1 feather.
Ottke, - long reigning Super Middleweight champion
Mayweather, - 2 time world champion, beating the best champions.
Mark Johnson - 2 time world champion, long reigning top ten fighter.

lamphey · Post by **lamphey** » 28 Jan 2004, 14:25

Neither are active but Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns will get in on the first ballot they are eligible for.

JC · Post by JC » 28 Jan 2004, 14:54

I know he's not active at the moment but Junior Jones must have a good chance- champ at three weights and beat Barrera twice

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 28 Jan 2004, 15:20

sven ottke

19 successful defences he's closing in on the brown bombers all time record

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 28 Jan 2004, 15:56

hitman_hatton1 wrote:sven ottke 19 successful defences he's closing in on the brown bombers all time record

And all of about 7 were inconclusive beyond argument too

I think that Morales will get in after he rules at SF. After all he has never ducked anyone and the first fight with Barrera was one of the best ever, since moving up to Super Featherweight he has signalled his intent to seek out the best...a true warrior. However i think the Hall Of fame in general is being watered down with some less than worthy entrants and some more than worthy ommission, Steve Farhood wrote a good piece about it in Boxing News a while ago, it's worth reading anyway.

TT · Post by TT » 28 Jan 2004, 16:44

Mike Tyson (If he is classed as Still Active
Evander Holyfield
Lennox Lewis

Roy Jones
Bernard Hopkins
Felix Trinidad (I believe he is making a comeback)
Oscar de la Hoya

Kostya Tszyu
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 28 Jan 2004, 16:49

stujones wrote:RJJ, - self explanitory
Holyfield, -self explanitory
Lewis, - self explanitory
Tyson - although extra cercullar activities is against him.
Barrera, Two weight champio, fantastic record.
Hopkins, Record Middlweight defensive.
DLH, - 6 time world champion
Toney, - three weight world champion
Lopez, - Legend, one of the greatest fighters of all time.
Alvarez, - Long serving champion, who is vastly underated because of Lopez.
Trinidad - 3 weight world champion.
Morales - 2 weight world champion with a great record.
Tapia - 3 weight world champion.
Medina - 5 times feeatherweight champion
Tszyu - two time Light Welterweight champion, undisputed.
Moseley - 3 time world champion.

Close to the list.
Gatti, - 2 time world champion
Naz, - long reigning #1 feather.
Ottke, - long reigning Super Middleweight champion
Mayweather, - 2 time world champion, beating the best champions.
Mark Johnson - 2 time world champion, long reigning top ten fighter.

agree with all of your list......only Medina would I be hesitating on. But he has done the business a good few times

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 29 Jan 2004, 07:31

A long shot for me would be Joel Casamayor. I feel he beat Frietas, but if he can do another job on Diego Corrales and reverse the Freitas loss he may be in with a chance.

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 29 Jan 2004, 09:47

Holmes is actually considering a comeback as he had an exhibition fight and felt he did well do may comeback.

Jones
Hopkins
Toney
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Ottke?
DLH
Mosely
Barrera
Morales
Mayweather Jr
Mark Johnson?
Stevie Johnson?
Ricardo Lopez
Rosendo Alvarez?
Paulie Ayala?
Johnny Tapia?

I cant be bothered to think of anymore.

HH