You got that nailed on!!!Coco wrote:I was really pleased to see they have started using Claude, nice to see them bringing in a fella with serious knowledge and without an agenda to please his paymasters
Hart is seriously outdated and past his sell by date. Whenever SKY use him, usually for "name" value, he always refers back to Ali, Hearns and Leonard etc because he is either not interested or lacks knowledge of the modern game.Loynesy wrote:Colin "I watched Ali, don't you know" Hart.
He knows nothing about modern boxing.
I could not stand Bunce on saturday... will not mind never seeign him on TV ever again.... he is ok on paper, but IMO annoying as fcuk on screennickd wrote:He looked pretty uncomfortable during Bunce's rants. What is/was Bunce on? Much more excitable than usual. And his jaw was twitching/grinding like a madman when he wasn't talking. Maybe some kind of reflex reaction to the amount of hot air coming out of his mouth?
Agreed. He offers little value as far as I am concerned.MatthewS wrote:I could not stand Bunce on saturday... will not mind never seeign him on TV ever again.... he is ok on paper, but IMO annoying as fcuk on screennickd wrote:He looked pretty uncomfortable during Bunce's rants. What is/was Bunce on? Much more excitable than usual. And his jaw was twitching/grinding like a madman when he wasn't talking. Maybe some kind of reflex reaction to the amount of hot air coming out of his mouth?
Richie Woodhall is on the box the more professional and comfortable I think he gets in front of the camera.I think we are all being constructive.Spud wrote:It actually annoys the life out of me - ITV could sack boxing, Sky are watering down their coverage by the month so we have Setanta come in and what happens - people rip f*ck out of the coverage.
Has anyone thought that it is a plain and simple FACT that the TV people visit these forums - and all we ever do is rip f*ck out of the BBC, ITV Sky and now Setanta who are the next lot to save the sport with regards to it being shown on our screens get the shit ripped out of them.
How about contstructive feed back??
Setanta are bringing great fights. Ppl will subscribe to them due to what they offer. However, their coverage is controversial because it's becoming hard to draw the line between broadcasting and promoting. Frank is clearly using them to promote his fighters. I know this actually helped give us all Haye-Macca. But imagine if Haye had simply gone up to heavy instead. We would hear absolute rubbish on that channel courtesy of the studio home team set of pundits.Spud wrote:I have always liked Steve Bunce and think he is absolutely fantastic for boxing - I don't want some posh twat spouting bollocks and who looks good on TV - I want to see someone who knows his boxing and is seriously passionate about the sport - Bunce is top notch.
With all that said - he did need to take a chill pill on Saturday - but thats what the sort of fight Haye/Maccarinelli does to those that really care about the sport.
Have to say each and every time Bunce's ugly side kick
Spud, I don't think a few of us boxing anoraks giving relatively well reasoned viewpoints on Setanta's coverage is going to cause them to withdraw from the sport.Spud wrote:Stu,
I am being serious here - Bunce does not give a shit what he takes on here - however what concerns me greatly is that a lot of the TV Execs come on here to read what the fans think - if they don't they certainly get their PR people to do the job for them and print off the comments - that is a plain and simple fact - I have been lambasted in the past by the f*ckers at previous shows for my comments!!!
However the people at the top of these TV companies shall we say diplomatically are sensitive soles at the best of times - they do not give a shit about boxing as long as they are getting positive feedback and decent viewing figures.
The problem with these forums is that people give their "HONEST" points of view - the problem with that is that sometime we are too honest and too straight forward and the next thing we are faced with is boxing being dumped and Henretta and her donkey jumping over fences and some snotty nosed twat commentating on the dressage - or worst still some old granny being made a star because she is good at bowls.
That is my point - lets be positive that boxing is on our screens and a little more clever in the way we deliver our criticisms.
You would be surprised the amount of promoters and TV Execs who print off comments on these forums.Loynesy wrote:Spud, I don't think a few of us boxing anoraks giving relatively well reasoned viewpoints on Setanta's coverage is going to cause them to withdraw from the sport.Spud wrote:Stu,
I am being serious here - Bunce does not give a shit what he takes on here - however what concerns me greatly is that a lot of the TV Execs come on here to read what the fans think - if they don't they certainly get their PR people to do the job for them and print off the comments - that is a plain and simple fact - I have been lambasted in the past by the f*ckers at previous shows for my comments!!!
However the people at the top of these TV companies shall we say diplomatically are sensitive soles at the best of times - they do not give a shit about boxing as long as they are getting positive feedback and decent viewing figures.
The problem with these forums is that people give their "HONEST" points of view - the problem with that is that sometime we are too honest and too straight forward and the next thing we are faced with is boxing being dumped and Henretta and her donkey jumping over fences and some snotty nosed twat commentating on the dressage - or worst still some old granny being made a star because she is good at bowls.
That is my point - lets be positive that boxing is on our screens and a little more clever in the way we deliver our criticisms.
I never knowingly under-estimate my own self-importance....Spud wrote:You would be surprised the amount of promoters and TV Execs who print off comments on these forums.Loynesy wrote:Spud, I don't think a few of us boxing anoraks giving relatively well reasoned viewpoints on Setanta's coverage is going to cause them to withdraw from the sport.Spud wrote:Stu,
I am being serious here - Bunce does not give a shit what he takes on here - however what concerns me greatly is that a lot of the TV Execs come on here to read what the fans think - if they don't they certainly get their PR people to do the job for them and print off the comments - that is a plain and simple fact - I have been lambasted in the past by the f*ckers at previous shows for my comments!!!
However the people at the top of these TV companies shall we say diplomatically are sensitive soles at the best of times - they do not give a shit about boxing as long as they are getting positive feedback and decent viewing figures.
The problem with these forums is that people give their "HONEST" points of view - the problem with that is that sometime we are too honest and too straight forward and the next thing we are faced with is boxing being dumped and Henretta and her donkey jumping over fences and some snotty nosed twat commentating on the dressage - or worst still some old granny being made a star because she is good at bowls.
That is my point - lets be positive that boxing is on our screens and a little more clever in the way we deliver our criticisms.
I totally agree it is certainly not the be all and end all of what is said on here - however boxrec and other forums do have a voice and don't kid yourself otherwise.
Claude is the best boxing writer in the world. Claude was an asset to Setanta last saturday night. When talking about fights, Clude doesn't go overboard & always keeps things in perspective. He doesn't bullshit!Autobarn wrote:I much prefer Claude to Colin Hart as a pundit.
Spud wrote:Stu,
I am being serious here - Bunce does not give a shit what he takes on here - however what concerns me greatly is that a lot of the TV Execs come on here to read what the fans think - if they don't they certainly get their PR people to do the job for them and print off the comments - that is a plain and simple fact - I have been lambasted in the past by the f*ckers at previous shows for my comments!!!
However the people at the top of these TV companies shall we say diplomatically are sensitive soles at the best of times - they do not give a shit about boxing as long as they are getting positive feedback and decent viewing figures.
The problem with these forums is that people give their "HONEST" points of view - the problem with that is that sometime we are too honest and too straight forward and the next thing we are faced with is boxing being dumped and Henretta and her donkey jumping over fences and some snotty nosed twat commentating on the dressage - or worst still some old granny being made a star because she is good at bowls.
That is my point - lets be positive that boxing is on our screens and a little more clever in the way we deliver our criticisms.
Fair points to a degree - I didn't really like it when people criticised Setanta for getting the J C Chavez Jnr bill. Yes, I think there have been better bills that they haven't ordered - but for me the more boxing the better.Spud wrote:Stu,
I am being serious here - Bunce does not give a shit what he takes on here - however what concerns me greatly is that a lot of the TV Execs come on here to read what the fans think - if they don't they certainly get their PR people to do the job for them and print off the comments - that is a plain and simple fact - I have been lambasted in the past by the f*ckers at previous shows for my comments!!!
However the people at the top of these TV companies shall we say diplomatically are sensitive soles at the best of times - they do not give a shit about boxing as long as they are getting positive feedback and decent viewing figures.
The problem with these forums is that people give their "HONEST" points of view - the problem with that is that sometime we are too honest and too straight forward and the next thing we are faced with is boxing being dumped and Henretta and her donkey jumping over fences and some snotty nosed twat commentating on the dressage - or worst still some old granny being made a star because she is good at bowls.
That is my point - lets be positive that boxing is on our screens and a little more clever in the way we deliver our criticisms.
On second viewing I was having a change of thought for some of the rounds I gave to Carl. Mitchell still threw alot of punches in those rounds, but Johanesson's were more effective.Autobarn wrote:Woodhall has always been very good, level headed and sensible. However, why was he having hangups awarding rounds to Carl Johanesson last Sat?
