Classic American West Coast Boxing

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 16:55

Alexis Arguello vs Sal Torres

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 16:56

Lilly Rodriguez

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 17:00

"Ol Archie

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 07 Apr 2008, 17:13

kikibalt wrote:
Lilly Rodriguez

Great pic of a real female warrior, Lily Rodriguez. The older sister of kickboxing legend, Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, Lily passed away suddenly last year, at age 59. She was an accomplished martial artist, who went from kick boxing to become an early pioneer in female boxing. Last week, the WBHOF honored Lily Rodriguez at our first ever "Women In Boxing" luncheon. Also honored were Jackie Kallen & the greatest female boxer ever, Lucia Rijker, who ended Lily's career with a first round KO.

There was a time when women boxing was a joke, however, true fighters such as Lily Rodriguez and Lucia Rijker, have changed the minds of quite a few, including myself. When they are bad, they are bad, but when they are good, they can be great. All they ask is a chance.

I'm for giving anybody a chance who has the courage to get in the ring and fight.

-Rick Farris

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 17:38

Rick,

Lilly Rodriguez was inducted into the "California Boxing Hall of Fame" a few years back, as was her brother Blinky.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 18:26

SANDOVAL STOPS CHANDLER IN AC FOR BANTAM TITLE

Jeff Chandler lost his WBA Bantamweight Title to Richie Sandoval by TKO in the 15th round.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 07 Apr 2008, 18:33

kikibalt wrote:
SANDOVAL STOPS CHANDLER IN AC FOR BANTAM TITLE

Jeff Chandler lost his WBA Bantamweight Title to Richie Sandoval by TKO in the 15th round.

Sandoval was a real nice fighter.
I was surprised watching that fight how things turned out when he fought Gaby Canizales.
I wonder wether Ritchie was having trouble making weight going into that fight or what.
He just didnt look right.
Gaby hit him with alot of big shots.
Of course he collapsed afterwards.
Thank God he came through that.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 18:58

Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier...1971

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 20:48

Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Mays

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 20:52

A young Joe Frazier.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 20:55

Yolande Pompey and Archie Moore

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 20:59

Raul "Raton" Macias vs Nate Brooks

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 21:02

Nick Barone

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 21:04

Joey DeJohn

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 21:38

Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
SANDOVAL STOPS CHANDLER IN AC FOR BANTAM TITLE

Jeff Chandler lost his WBA Bantamweight Title to Richie Sandoval by TKO in the 15th round.
Sandoval was a real nice fighter.
I was surprised watching that fight how things turned out when he fought Gaby Canizales.
I wonder wether Ritchie was having trouble making weight going into that fight or what.
He just didnt look right.
Gaby hit him with alot of big shots.
Of course he collapsed afterwards.
Thank God he came through that.

Pug,

I always thought that Richie was the better fighter of the two Sandoval brothers, I do believe he had trouble making 118, his long time trainer Tony Cerda aways had his fighters fighting 8-10 lbs below what they should have been fighting.
The sad thing is that Richie only Received 17k for the Canizales fight.

Richie's brother Albert "Superfly" is been inducted into the CBHOF in June,
it will be the first time in 20 years that I have seeen them.

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 07 Apr 2008, 22:38

kikibalt wrote:Rick,

Lilly Rodriguez was inducted into the "California Boxing Hall of Fame" a few years back, as was her brother Blinky.

Frank-

Blinky was Lily's husband. He was Benny's brother-in-law. Today, William "Blinky" Rodriguez, is a gang mediator in the San Fernanado Valley. He and Lilly, had an 18-year-old son murdered in a gang drive-by shooting. Much like the son of Bobby Chacon. William met Lily when he was just a teen, they fell in love and married. She was older, and the marriage worked. By the way, in his own right, Blinky was a world class light-heavy kick boxer, he beat the crap out of Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, only to be robbed of a decision.

-Rick Farris

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 07 Apr 2008, 22:45

Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick,

Lilly Rodriguez was inducted into the "California Boxing Hall of Fame" a few years back, as was her brother Blinky.
Frank-

Blinky was Lily's husband. He was Benny's brother-in-law. Today, William "Blinky" Rodriguez, is a gang mediator in the San Fernanado Valley. He and Lilly, had an 18-year-old son murdered in a gang drive-by shooting. Much like the son of Bobby Chacon. William met Lily when he was just a teen, they fell in love and married. She was older, and the marriage worked. By the way, in his own right, Blinky was a world class light-heavy kick boxer, he beat the crap out of Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, only to be robbed of a decision.

-Rick Farris

Thanks Rick for correcting me on that, I knew there was a brother some where in there, Benny is the one I heard more about.

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 07 Apr 2008, 22:48

kikibalt wrote:
Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier...1951

!951, huh?

Here's Ali-Frazier 1971:

The very talented Ali demonstrates the Limbo dance to Joe Frazier.

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 07 Apr 2008, 23:04

kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick,

Lilly Rodriguez was inducted into the "California Boxing Hall of Fame" a few years back, as was her brother Blinky.
Frank-

Blinky was Lily's husband. He was Benny's brother-in-law. Today, William "Blinky" Rodriguez, is a gang mediator in the San Fernanado Valley. He and Lilly, had an 18-year-old son murdered in a gang drive-by shooting. Much like the son of Bobby Chacon. William met Lily when he was just a teen, they fell in love and married. She was older, and the marriage worked. By the way, in his own right, Blinky was a world class light-heavy kick boxer, he beat the crap out of Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, only to be robbed of a decision.

-Rick Farris
Thanks Rick for correcting me on that, I knew there was a brother some where in there, Benny is the one I heard more about.

Frank, there are several brothers, all accomplished martial artists. I forget the order, but there is Arnold, Ruben, Smiley, Bennie. Lilly was the oldest child.

Now when we talk fighting families, yours certainly qualifies as one of the biggest in boxing, likewise, in the world of martial arts, the Urquidez family. Lilly's father was a pro boxer, her mother a professional wrestler, little bro Bennie is arguably the greatest kickboxer ever, having defeated the best of Thailand, Holland, etc.

-Rick Farris

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 07 Apr 2008, 23:06

Like I was tellin' ya' the other day me and the wife went down to Tijuana to visit her brother"El Momia". Well right there on that block is where I get my old van worked on. Everything for my van is on that block. The muffler guy,the brake guy,electronic shop,body and fender. I ain't drivin' my new car down there. That's why I keep the old van runnin'.

While me and the wife and "El Momia" were talking under this tree,I had my van inside the "taller mechanica" to get a little tune up. Teo and his son Victor own the place and they've treated me good. "El Momia" worked for them at one time and that's how I got familiar with that block. "Momia" don't work for Teo and his son no more and I don't ask what happened,but if I know my brother in law he probably lifted somethin' out of one of the cars he was working on.

Like I said Teo treats me good. As he says ,"I want to keep you my customer. Make you satisfied."
That's what gets me about a lot of Americans. They think if they go down to TJ,for example,to get their car worked on that they're going to to get ripped off. Why in the hell would they want to rip the gringo off? He's got U.S. money and they want to have him comin' back. All the auto repair places on that block have treated me all right.

Anyway Teo is a boxing fan and he remembers going to see the big fights down there during the 60's and 70's. One of us will always bring up boxing and that kind of cements our relationship. When his son Victor's wife had Teo's first grandson,I gave him a giant red boxing glove. It must of touched Teo cause he didn't charge me for putting in this fuel filter I brought down that time. In fact Teo always talks about that giant red boxing glove everytime I see him. Let me tell ya' sometimes he doesn't want my money for something simple or he charges such a ridiculously low price,I often feel embarrassed. But one thing I have to tell ya' about doin' business down there:never tip. No "propinas". Here's why. If the guy says,for example,10 dollars(and you feel it's a bargain),don't tip him,let's say five. Because next time he'll charge 15 expecting another Five spot. Get my drift?

Well I buy the parts on the U.S. side and I let Teo and Victor put 'em in.
I got the spark plugs,wires,and distributor cap and Teo is working on my van.
"Hey Teo. Tony Margarito pelea proxima Sabado."(Margarito fights next Saturday)
"Si Rogelio. Es goood."
Tony Margarito was born in LA.,but started his career in TJ. Tony lives in TJ somewhere and they think of him as one of their own. A while back Margarito's brother was killed in some drug deal or something. They like Margarito in TJ. I know he trains in LA. because he gets better sparring partners,but he's cut out a rough mold. A Zona Norte street wise guy. He ain't no pretty boy and they like that in a fighter.Nice enough when you meet him on the street,but he's not so nice in the ring. He started too slow against Williams and I know he's sore about that. If that fight had gone another round,I think Tony would have caught him. Teo was finishing up on my van.

"Teo,Margarito va a ganar?" (Will Margarito win?)
"Si Rogelio. Es claro que si"(Of course. It's clear)
I was watching Teo. He'd been around. He brought his son in with him,and when Teo steps down he'll turn the business over to his son.
"Teo vas a ver la pelea en la tele?"(Are you going to watch the fight on the TV?)
"Si Rogelio. Voy a comprar la pelea por el cable"(I'll buy it on cable)
His son Victor was done putting on a fan belt and went over to his car with one of those dusters on a stick to wipe the dirt off. It was parked in the shade. Victor's car was a 74 Mercury Comet. He had custom rims,a 4 speed on the floor,and he had installed a sound system. The car was painted metallic blue. I could see on the dashboard a picture of his baby boy holding on to that giant red boxing glove I gave to his father.
"Es listo Teo?" (It's ready?)
"Si Rogelio es listo."
"Cuanto te debo?"(How much do I owe you?)
"Ah Rogelio. Dame diez." (10 dollars)
I pulled out my wallet and thumbed through my money. Victor was putting a car seat in the back seat of his car.
"Solo tengo un billete de vente"(I only have a twenty)
Teo was starting to walk towards his son.
"No problema Teo. Ten diez extra para comprar la pelea en la tele." (It's not a problem. Take the extra ten to buy the fight on the television)

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 07 Apr 2008, 23:28

Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Lilly Rodriguez
Great pic of a real female warrior, Lily Rodriguez. The older sister of kickboxing legend, Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, Lily passed away suddenly last year, at age 59. She was an accomplished martial artist, who went from kick boxing to become an early pioneer in female boxing. Last week, the WBHOF honored Lily Rodriguez at our first ever "Women In Boxing" luncheon. Also honored were Jackie Kallen & the greatest female boxer ever, Lucia Rijker, who ended Lily's career with a first round KO.

There was a time when women boxing was a joke, however, true fighters such as Lily Rodriguez and Lucia Rijker, have changed the minds of quite a few, including myself. When they are bad, they are bad, but when they are good, they can be great. All they ask is a chance.

I'm for giving anybody a chance who has the courage to get in the ring and fight.

-Rick Farris

Hey Rick,
I make it a rule not to go out with women who can kick my ass. I always try somethin' on the first date. I don't need a broken nose just because I tried to get to first base. Dago

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Apr 2008, 02:23

kikibalt wrote:
Nick Barone

Frank
I'm going to go out on a limb. The guy in the middle is Italian.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 08 Apr 2008, 02:24

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Nick Barone
Frank
I'm going to go out on a limb. The guy in the middle is Italian.

How do you know?

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 08 Apr 2008, 02:26

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Nick Barone
Frank
I'm going to go out on a limb. The guy in the middle is Italian.

Frank
I figured out what they're tellin' him. "Don't feel up a girl with boxing gloves."

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 08 Apr 2008, 03:45

kikibalt wrote:
Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
SANDOVAL STOPS CHANDLER IN AC FOR BANTAM TITLE

Jeff Chandler lost his WBA Bantamweight Title to Richie Sandoval by TKO in the 15th round.
Sandoval was a real nice fighter.
I was surprised watching that fight how things turned out when he fought Gaby Canizales.
I wonder wether Ritchie was having trouble making weight going into that fight or what.
He just didnt look right.
Gaby hit him with alot of big shots.
Of course he collapsed afterwards.
Thank God he came through that.
Pug,

I always thought that Richie was the better fighter of the two Sandoval brothers, I do believe he had trouble making 118, his long time trainer Tony Cerda aways had his fighters fighting 8-10 lbs below what they should have been fighting.
The sad thing is that Richie only Received 17k for the Canizales fight.

Richie's brother Albert "Superfly" is been inducted into the CBHOF in June,
it will be the first time in 20 years that I have seeen them.

Richie was dead at the weight by the time he fought a fired-up Canizales, and Padilla messed up when he didn't stop it after the third knockdown (he didn't have to under the rules but Richie was finished). The bantamweight division was hot in the 80's. Canizales, who fought like a mini-Duran, held the title just a couple of months.