2 Olympic Invitations

jtyson · Post by **jtyson** » 06 May 2008, 15:28

accoriding to the AIBA site the Tripartite Commission Invitation have been issued....

Swaziland's 48 kg Simanga Shiba

..AND...

Grenada's 69 kg Rolande Moses

anybody heard of either of these guys?

http://aiba.org/en-US/news/ozqsp/newsId/643/news.aspx

jtyson · Post by **jtyson** » 06 May 2008, 15:38

Shiba
WC- Lost by walkover 1st round (Yanez)
1st African Q- Lost RSC-3
2nd African Q- Lost 22:10

Moses
WC- Lost RSC-2 to a Swed
1st American Q- Lost 12-2
2nd American Q- Didnt fight

Whats up with these selections? the two combines are 0-5 in qualifiers and being RSC 3 times[/code]

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 06 May 2008, 15:40

Moses lost in the Trinidad qualifier to Argentine Diego Chaves 12-2. I think it's good they give two places to countries that otherwise never will have an olympic boxer. I wonder though what makes these boxers more deserving than others from small nations who didn't qualify.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 06 May 2008, 15:43

Sorry, didn't see your second comment. I see we ask the same question. Why do these guys beat others to it? I guess it's a lottery. They look for small countries with no chance of qualifying and just pick one boxer. But sure there must have been someone who did better in losing?

emile · Post by **emile** » 06 May 2008, 16:21

I think countries send in applications for the spots. I think they just felt that these countries boxing federations could use the encouragement. Last time they went to Iran and Afghanistan, so its nice to see some chances for small countries that are not currently war-torn.

Shiba has been around a while.

Blackeye 84 · Post by **Blackeye 84** » 06 May 2008, 18:41

What would be wrong with Afghan born Arash Usmanee of Canada, he fought hard at the Worlds and lost in his qualifiying bout by 1 point to # 5 ranked Yakup Kilic of Turkey. He was flat in Trinidad and was unfortunatly on the tough side of the draw in Guatemala, this kid has had nothing but bad luck!

jtyson · Post by **jtyson** » 06 May 2008, 19:07

I knew it would be a long shot but i was thinking christopher downs could have gotten one of them. Since last time the selections were an Iraqi and Afghani, him being a war vet., i thought he would have n outside shot at it. I knew it wouldnt come about but it was wishful thinking

lap · Post by **lap** » 09 May 2008, 13:00

I understand the idea of given 2 places to countries who wouldn't qualify a boxer through the usual channel, but there must be a way to pick two guys who at least won one fight at the qualifiers

Not a lot of those in the Americas, but there must be several in Europe Asia and Africa.

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 10 May 2008, 00:12

in this olympic wildcard invitation they must have invited Cubans Guillermo Rigondeaux and Erislandi Lara as independent participants...

JMac · Post by **JMac** » 10 May 2008, 14:27

Venceremos wrote:in this olympic wildcard invitation they must have invited Cubans Guillermo Rigondeaux and Erislandi Lara as independent participants...

Why?
You must represent a country, not be an independent. Cuba has already filled those weight classes. Besides, word is that Lara escaped last week and is in Mexico.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 10 May 2008, 15:52

JMac wrote:
Venceremos wrote:in this olympic wildcard invitation they must have invited Cubans Guillermo Rigondeaux and Erislandi Lara as independent participants...
Why?
You must represent a country, not be an independent. Cuba has already filled those weight classes. Besides, word is that Lara escaped last week and is in Mexico.

I heard the same about Lara. I also heard Rigondeaux was going to escape (again) but got cold feet at the last minute (again).

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 11 May 2008, 11:15

JMac wrote:
Venceremos wrote:in this olympic wildcard invitation they must have invited Cubans Guillermo Rigondeaux and Erislandi Lara as independent participants...
Why?
You must represent a country, not be an independent. Cuba has already filled those weight classes. Besides, word is that Lara escaped last week and is in Mexico.

In 1980, the Olympics received a lot of independent participants in Moscow... easier for Lara if he is in Mexico now

Gray-Fox · Post by **Gray-Fox** » 11 May 2008, 11:16

Venceremos wrote:
JMac wrote:
Venceremos wrote:in this olympic wildcard invitation they must have invited Cubans Guillermo Rigondeaux and Erislandi Lara as independent participants...
Why?
You must represent a country, not be an independent. Cuba has already filled those weight classes. Besides, word is that Lara escaped last week and is in Mexico.
In 1980, the Olympics received a lot of independent participants in Moscow... easier for Lara if he is in Mexico now

What is easier? Professional boxing or independent Beijing representation? I'd assume he wouldn't be fit or sharp for the latter.

Canada · Post by **Canada** » 11 May 2008, 16:49

The whole point of these invitations is too keep up the tradition of the olympic games being a global event. If they invited Lara and Rigondeux then they would just have another pair of Cubans, thus defeating the whole purpose of the selection.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 11 May 2008, 17:05

In 1980, the Olympics received a lot of independent participants in Moscow...

Possibly due to the boycott? They needed to fill up spots?

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 15 May 2008, 10:44

Gray-Fox wrote:
Venceremos wrote:
JMac wrote: Why?
You must represent a country, not be an independent. Cuba has already filled those weight classes. Besides, word is that Lara escaped last week and is in Mexico.
In 1980, the Olympics received a lot of independent participants in Moscow... easier for Lara if he is in Mexico now
What is easier? Professional boxing or independent Beijing representation? I'd assume he wouldn't be fit or sharp for the latter.

Excuse-me, it was just kidding... nothing is easy... nothing

Canada · Post by **Canada** » 24 May 2008, 21:42

Btw Moses actully has lived in Canada since age 6 and only has 10 FIGHTS!!! His biggest accomplishment is making it to the semis of the Ringside Novice World Championships in 2005.

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