Britains hardest Bouncer...

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DavidPayne wrote:Well you're a harder man than me Wales, or dafter.

Im sure, as a pro with a huge number of bouts under his belt, he's a proper handful. Just a shame he (as has been criticised with other pros) doesnt bloody fight in the ring. He ran from Aaron Thomas all night long.
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I was asked after "where were you Payney?!"

"You seemed to be managing and besides, this is new on tonight."

"Oh".

I have put my self between trouble and trouble on another occasion. Same bunch were heading for kebab shop and taxi, about 2am in Cambridge, I was with big Harry Rice - bit of a lad at Norwich FC - a tall fella named James who told everyone he was a face at the City Ground and was well 'ard. I never take much notice, but he was good at cricket. Anyhow, those and LeSaux lookalike were strolling along, and around the corner comes two Ray Mercer lookalikes, one male one female. The male, only very close inspection revealed the female was in fact a female, shouts to try and stop a passing taxi.

"Oh man!" he exclaimed.

to which my Graham LeSaux mate, Smithy, urges him to "Calm down mate, this aint New York you know!"

This didn't seem to sit well with Ray, who marched toward young Smithy asking whether he though "every brother was from New York?"

Before you know it Ray Mercer has come over all Larry Holmes and starts running around the car, we're trying to get in, chasing Smithy. It was like Tom and Jerry, hilarious. Well apart from the fact the two resident hardmen, stood dumbfounded as Smithy prepared to give away around 120pounds in a match-up even the WBO wouldn't have sanctioned during Ray Mercer's reign.

Left to muggins to duck the bullets and intervene.

Funny on reflection. I'm just pleased Mrs Mercer didn't intervene. There could have been rivers of blood.
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teddy007 wrote:Dave Garside was sparked by Brian Cockeril.

Bri is a big old chore, tough as boots, getting on a bit now tho, half the guys he used to rob would but a bloody big bulllet shaped whole in him now....even the skinny, shortarse kids are game as fu*k with a gun..the game has changed big style.
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Freeman is as fit as a butchers dog though Teddy - Cockerill would have had lots of size on him but I would have thought that in an 'all in' scrap Freeman would have done him after the big man ran out of steam..

Freeman recently man-handled the much younger scouse former street scrapper Paul Cahoon in an MMA match - he is a physical marvel for his age..
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A good big un beats a good little un, and cockerill wouldve had a 6 or 7 stone of steroid fulled aggression over freeman. Also, cockerill all in wouldve probably included ripping his eyes out.

Still, one of those street fights that would depends on circumstance and "on the day" I'd imagine.
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Of his 7 losses 3 were by submission, 4 by KO. (although the Overeem loss is recorded as a submission I thought he was KOed by knees TBH)

There is no shame in getting KO’ed by Arlovski and Manhoef though – they are both monsters.

Wins over Mir, Epstein, Cahoon, Fulton are all decent scalps. Coupled with a draw against a still-dangerous Vernon White, these results make Freeman one of the best early MMA ambassadors this country has produced.

Cockerill’s form line? Beating up drug dealers for their cash and stash.

I only know of him what I saw on the Bravo documentary but I would back the proven, tested professional fighter 9 times out of 10.

It aint always the size of the dog you know..
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I agree terry although cockerill would be a handful in the street, even for someone of freemans ilk. Plenty of so called hardmen are shown up when they get in the ring / MMa circle though. Theres an unlicensed show in north Wales in a few weeks and a couple of known bully's are entering. Im hoping they fight a couple of well schooled but muppet looking boxers as they'll be made to look silly with the gloves on.
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lurkyshaka wrote:I'd still take Earnie Shavers to KO any of these meatheads......Shavers works the door of Yates in Liverpool.
I met Shavers the day after my daughter was born, one of nicest blokes I've ever come across....

I wanted to reiterate about the size of his hands, I was gobsmacked and shaking for about 2 hours after he gave me a big bear hug and rambled on about religion to me!
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Wales wrote:The lads I know fight under different names. job done.
Does one of their christian names begin with an A? Our mutual friend :)

I bet he is.....
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I couldnt possibly comment on who they are mate.
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I think it's a shame most of these guys are fornicating horseshit when they get in the ring yet are happy to gouge a bloke's eye out in a scrap on the floor of a car park.

And I don't follow MMA, am not getting into that argument again but I appreciate most of them are nuts!
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Bri Cockerill did indeed beat Dave garside in a street fight but Dave also beat Bri (Think it was in Stockton). He was training for the fight in my old amateur gym and a couple of weeks later after he'd beaten Cockerill (apparently with bodyshots while Bri had his back against a car) he returned to our gym, gave the coach a wad of cash and told him to "get the lads some new gear"
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teddy007 wrote:
johnty1888 wrote:Bri Cockerill did indeed beat Dave garside in a street fight but Dave also beat Bri (Think it was in Stockton). He was training for the fight in my old amateur gym and a couple of weeks later after he'd beaten Cockerill (apparently with bodyshots while Bri had his back against a car) he returned to our gym, gave the coach a wad of cash and told him to "get the lads some new gear"

Wasn't that after cockerill had been sniffing coke and taking pills for 3 days?
That would be almost suicidal
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teddy007 wrote:
johnty1888 wrote:Bri Cockerill did indeed beat Dave garside in a street fight but Dave also beat Bri (Think it was in Stockton). He was training for the fight in my old amateur gym and a couple of weeks later after he'd beaten Cockerill (apparently with bodyshots while Bri had his back against a car) he returned to our gym, gave the coach a wad of cash and told him to "get the lads some new gear"
Sorry mate was that garside or cockerill who gave the coach some dough?

Dave gave our coach some money for using our gym
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Poor Mo Hussein did time for manslaughter after a fell died after being hit once
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1southpaw wrote:
Coco wrote:Poor Mo Hussein did time for manslaughter after a fell died after being hit once
so how would mo and garry get on in this kind of competition if fit ????
Any half decent amateur would have an easy time in a boxing ring against a novice irrespective if he is a 20 stone roidhead doorman or not
If the likes of Kevin Evans wa competing I would seriously fear for the health of his opponent, and in fairness such mismatches should not be allowed
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To clear up a few things - it is not white collar, it is amateur (but no headguards) most of these guys box reguarly. The fighters are being followed by a TV crew, we will see the doorman in their homes, at work, with their families and in the gym. We will see their human side.

Why boxing? because boxing needs skill. cage is for people that can't use their hands!

How were the 16 chosen? On the whole they were nominated by their door firms.

Is it still possible to take part? There are no gaps this year, they already have fall backs in case someone has to drop out.

Are there tickets? But if you want to see it for yourselves you can buy tickets here http://www.britainshardestdoorman.co.uk. Ringside have just about gone but there are still good tickets available.

Next year there will be events if all four parts of the UK to give everyone a chance. We are already getting applications go to http://www.britainshardestdoorman.co.uk if you think are up to it. It will be hard work 5 fights in the one night before the victor pickus up his 10 grand.

BTW Chris Bacon is not taking part.
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teddy007 wrote:Dave Garside was sparked by Brian Cockeril.
:roll:

Read Cockrills book Cockerill himself says Garside beat him, get your facts straight.

They only had one fight. Cockerill says something nearly came off again but it didnt. Dave says they only had 1 scrape too.
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FATBOB wrote:To clear up a few things - it is not white collar, it is amateur (but no headguards) most of these guys box reguarly. The fighters are being followed by a TV crew, we will see the doorman in their homes, at work, with their families and in the gym. We will see their human side.

Why boxing? because boxing needs skill. cage is for people that can't use their hands!

How were the 16 chosen? On the whole they were nominated by their door firms.

Is it still possible to take part? There are no gaps this year, they already have fall backs in case someone has to drop out.

Are there tickets? But if you want to see it for yourselves you can buy tickets here http://www.britainshardestdoorman.co.uk. Ringside have just about gone but there are still good tickets available.

Next year there will be events if all four parts of the UK to give everyone a chance. We are already getting applications go to http://www.britainshardestdoorman.co.uk if you think are up to it. It will be hard work 5 fights in the one night before the victor pickus up his 10 grand.

BTW Chris Bacon is not taking part.
It's not possible to fight amateur without a headguard.....best description would be unlicensed.
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Razor wrote:
teddy007 wrote:Dave Garside was sparked by Brian Cockeril.
:roll:

Read Cockrills book Cockerill himself says Garside beat him, get your facts straight.

They only had one fight. Cockerill says something nearly came off again but it didnt. Dave says they only had 1 scrape too.
It is licensed, under the european boxing federation (EBF)
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FATBOB wrote:
Razor wrote:
teddy007 wrote:Dave Garside was sparked by Brian Cockeril.
:roll:

Read Cockrills book Cockerill himself says Garside beat him, get your facts straight.

They only had one fight. Cockerill says something nearly came off again but it didnt. Dave says they only had 1 scrape too.
It is licensed, under the european boxing federation (EBF)
Lol if that makes it licenced!!
I thought they would have to be approved by the BBBoC to give authenticity
Will these bouts give them ranking within that body! They will probably give out a title for this, subject to sanctioning fees of course!
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A friend fought on a EBF card in chorley on the weekend so I had a quick look on their site. Eugene Monterio is one of their champions, as is sugar boy malinga (although not that one that fogut Benn, isnt there one from around manc?).

Also their HW title is up for grabs in sepember
EBF WORLD TITLE FIGHT OVER 4 ROUNDS

BETWEEN

America's BUTTERBEAN

and

London's MARK POTTER

The Syndicate Club, Blackpool

14th September 2008
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Yeah, been to a few EBF shows in Nottingham. John Ashton promotes them and they are entertaining fights.

Daz Davies is Ashton’s main man, the heavyweight champion. I saw him lose six out of seven rounds to former pro Dave Clarke before pulling some huge punches out of the bag to win by knockout. Daz has won all of his fights inside and knocked out another former pro, Paul Fiske, in his last fight.

Scott Lansdowne told me he wants to fight Davies.

A few ex-pros fight on the bills: Dominic Negus, Greg Scott-Briggs, who is the Midland Area champion, and Eugenio Monteiro.
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