Next British World Champion ???

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 29 Apr 2004, 11:04

Who do you guys reckon will be the next British world champ (WBO,WBA,IBF,WBC) to me it aint lookin that clever, wot do ya think??

Hevayweight - Lewis (retired), hide,williams,sprott,skelton (aint good enough)
Cruiserweight - Haye, Enzo M (not ready)
Light Heavyweight - Clinton Woods (not good enough- recent 2 losses) - not gunna count joe c (cos he already holds a belt)
Super Middleweight - Reid (a possiblity), Magee (Not good enough)
Middle - Eastman (when will he get an opoortunity, seems never)
Light Middle/Welter - James Hare went off track wiv that loss, barnes (not ready), Takaloo (recent loss), jawaid Kaliq (may get a shot)
Light Welter - Hatton (cannot get the fights), Witter (may be a bad move not being wiv warren)
Super feather/Feather - Gomez (aint to sure about gomez), Brodie (just lost)
And so on and so on

When will we see a new British World Champ (Do we really have to have naz to come out of retirement or Lewis)
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nickd · Post by **nickd** » 29 Apr 2004, 11:15

Eastman should move up to 168, I think he'd be good at that weight and there'd be far more opportunities for him there.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 29 Apr 2004, 11:22

Hey, you forgot the boxrec-superhype, Audley Harrison

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 29 Apr 2004, 11:23

i am going to say Hatton, feel mitchell will give into hatton

thats if kostya doesnt come back

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 29 Apr 2004, 15:57

None of them?

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 29 Apr 2004, 17:26

Audley WILL hold a version of the world title….the heavyweight scene is really that bad.

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 29 Apr 2004, 17:35

tonyevs wrote:Audley WILL hold a version of the world title….the heavyweight scene is really that bad.

He already does, the WBF!!!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 Apr 2004, 17:36

A real world title? Harrison and Eastman maybe

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2004, 05:44

It all depends on what the promoters can arrange. Woods was not good enough vs Johnston, but I'd tip him (and Oboh) to beat Tiozzo.

I think Lamon Brewster is a very poor champion (thats if your counting the WBO), I would like to see Harrison or Williams fight him in the not to distant future.

I think Robin Reid or maybe a comebacking David Starie are capable of winning versions of the world championship.

Jason Cook would have a pretty decent chance against the current IBF Lightweight champion, but he's defending his belt against Diaz (so it might be a missed opportunity).

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Apr 2004, 05:52

stujones: david starie

do u remember that limp performance he gave against sven ottke

i really believed in starie that night what a let down he totally bottled it. :x

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2004, 05:58

hitman_hatton1 wrote:stujones: david starie do u remember that limp performance he gave against sven ottke i really believed in starie that night what a let down he totally bottled it. :x

No, I don't think he bottled it - it was a close fight. He made a good start, but couldn't sustain it and then had a good ending. The scorecards (if I'm not mistaken were 7-5 to Ottke, which match my own card). I too was dissapointed, because after the first 3 rounds it look like Starie would win a wide decision. However, in my opinion Robin Reid lost the end rounds vs Ottke far wider any of the rounds Starie lost.

It was a poor effort cause he SHOULD have won, but not a disgrace and considering he was coming off a shellacking by Thyse (which you must take into account) it still showed he belonged in world class - as did Robin Reid.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Apr 2004, 06:19

he just wouldn't commit himself all that big talk before the fight that he had deserved a world title fight and now's my time and his performance was so limp

i was shouting at the telly let go with the right hand with some venom and he just wasn't doing it.

stick to the fire brigade starie

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2004, 06:24

hitman_hatton1 wrote:he just wouldn't commit himself all that big talk before the fight that he had deserved a world title fight and now's my time

Did he say all this, surely he didn't after the Thyse disaster.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Apr 2004, 06:38

stujones wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:he just wouldn't commit himself all that big talk before the fight that he had deserved a world title fight and now's my time
Did he say all this, surely he didn't after the Thyse disaster.

lead up to the fight he was being very respectful what i really meant was all that moaning in the boxing news

he even had me believing that the calzaghe fight was just a bad styles clash and he had the power and class to trouble any1 but guess he didn't have it after all.

don't call it a comeback · Post by **don't call it a comeback** » 30 Apr 2004, 11:06

The cupboard looks pretty bare at the moment. Hatton is obviously capable of challenging if a fight is ever made.

Otherwise the only potential world champions I see out there are:

Robin Reid as 168 is now in flux
Eastman - but the post Hopkins era may well come too late for him
Jason Cook - if he can somehow get a shot: 135 is very weak right now
Michael Gomez - if he keeps straight and Corrales moves up or he gets a WBA shot.

None of these, apart from Hatton, are young fighters. Other prospects such as Froch, Haye, Enzo Mac and even Harrison are some way off being allowed to risk a world title shot. Khaliq and Hare have their path blocked by Spinks and Margarito, Magee would have to be very lucky indeed, Alex Arthur is the wildcard but I'm not holding my breath. Brodie is a great little fighter but time has moved on and there are too many big guns in his way at 126.

Bit depressing really.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2004, 11:15

don't call it a comeback wrote:The cupboard looks pretty bare at the moment. Hatton is obviously capable of challenging if a fight is ever made.

Otherwise the only potential world champions I see out there are:

Robin Reid as 168 is now in flux
Eastman - but the post Hopkins era may well come too late for him
Jason Cook - if he can somehow get a shot: 135 is very weak right now
Michael Gomez - if he keeps straight and Corrales moves up or he gets a WBA shot.

None of these, apart from Hatton, are young fighters. Other prospects such as Froch, Haye, Enzo Mac and even Harrison are some way off being allowed to risk a world title shot. Khaliq and Hare have their path blocked by Spinks and Margarito, Magee would have to be very lucky indeed, Alex Arthur is the wildcard but I'm not holding my breath. Brodie is a great little fighter but time has moved on and there are too many big guns in his way at 126.

Bit depressing really.

Welcome to the forum, Gomez has got a bit more time (26) but I just don't think he is capable at the highest level. I'm surprised that Cook is 29, thought he was a few years younger.

beduff · Post by **beduff** » 30 Apr 2004, 11:15

looks like audley,hows bernard dunne getting on now?

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 30 Apr 2004, 11:21

I'd give Nelson a chance against the other cruiserweight bosses, but will it ever happen?

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Apr 2004, 13:49

there's always kevin mitchell

but with franky boy its gonna take years to get there.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 01 May 2004, 13:30

John Fardon in 2045. He's not been born yet, but hell... watch out for him. In 2045, he'll be welterweight champ for a LOOOOONG time. Big right hand, silky skills, rock solid chin, amazing heart. Not a lot of British fighters before him that can boast all of that at world level.

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 15 Dec 2004, 09:36

Well 2004 is nearly over and not a new world champ yet :( , anyone think the british lads will pick up a World Belt in 2005

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 15 Dec 2004, 13:08

Of that lot I'll day that Hatton and Eastman will most likely get a shot because of their mandatory rankings.
Brodie could fight Harrison and a think that Froch could do well next year a European shot at least.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 15 Dec 2004, 16:03

Well if I believe in my dreams (had another boxing one last night) then Hatton retires Kostya Tszyu.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 15 Dec 2004, 16:14

REAL_DEAL wrote:i am going to say Hatton, feel mitchell will give into hatton thats if kostya doesnt come back

right there

knightshadeau · Post by **knightshadeau** » 15 Dec 2004, 17:05

REAL_DEAL wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:i am going to say Hatton, feel mitchell will give into hatton thats if kostya doesnt come back
right there

It must rain an awful lot in the UK.