U.S. Championships - June 2009

[Dennis]

The U.S. Championships will be held in Denver, CO and the tournament is tentatively scheduled for June 2009.

[Unit]

well i'll be there 141 open...............i'm in the semi's of the ny metro i won my quaterfinal match saturday

[boxmel]

Metro has one huge tournament for juniors, novice and open that takes several months to complete. They have to have it done prior to the NY Golden Gloves, which takes another 3 or 4 months to complete.

[Dennis]

They have a few boxers so it takes a little while.

[Jamel]

I'll be there myself also in the 141 division open

[skinnyman]

Does anybody have any inside info on what week in June it will be? 8)

[Unit]

Jamal James?..............I actually beat the kid you fought in the finals of platinum gloves

[Dennis]

Does anybody have any inside info on what week in June it will be? 8)

I haven't heard anything yet. I'm hoping that they put it in the second half of the month. They do need to coordinate it with the National Junior Olympic tournament. They could hold both tournaments at the same time, but if not then they need to make sure they don't conflict. They really need to have enough time for the LBC and Regional tournaments to be conducted after the National Golden Gloves are completed. I guess that could be done by the end of May, but there wouldn't be any rest for the boxers before the nationals if they are held in early June.

I know that hosting 2 tournaments at the same venue can make it difficult, but in some ways it is a blessing. Coaches don't have to choose between conflicting tournaments and they save money by traveling to one locations and having more boxers compete.

[boxmel]

It would have to be two separate tournaments in the same place at the same time. That would mean an approximate total of 500 some boxers. Don't have enough officials for that kind of event; don't have enough computers for electronic scoring.

[Dennis]

It would have to be two separate tournaments in the same place at the same time. That would mean an approximate total of 500 some boxers. Don't have enough officials for that kind of event; don't have enough computers for electronic scoring.

No, they could hold the J.O.'s during the day and the US CHP in the evening. I'm sure we can find enough officials.

I don't mind having the tournaments held on separate dates/locations, but it does make it difficult for some coaches. This is especially true if they are only a week or two apart. Coaches that have limited vacation time can't always do both. Some coaches have enough time, but need at least a few weeks back home in between tournaments.

[boxmel]

No, they could hold the J.O.'s during the day and the US CHP in the evening. I'm sure we can find enough officials

Dennis, in both tournaments you have to have double sessions. It would be impossible to box 350 or so Open boxers in 6 days in one session only unless you had double brackets with an "A" and a "B" champion. Same for the JOs - there are generally double sessions through the quarterfinals. Level 2 and above officials are much like coaches in that they have to take time off and mostly pay their own way.

[Dennis]

No, they could hold the J.O.'s during the day and the US CHP in the evening. I'm sure we can find enough officials

Dennis, in both tournaments you have to have double sessions. It would be impossible to box 350 or so Open boxers in 6 days in one session only unless you had double brackets with an "A" and a "B" champion. Same for the JOs - there are generally double sessions through the quarterfinals. Level 2 and above officials are much like coaches in that they have to take time off and mostly pay their own way.

Even more reason for them to host both tournaments together. Officials and coaches only have to miss work for 1 instead of 2 tournaments and only have to pay the expenses once instead of twice.

One session or two does not make a difference in the number of boxers who can compete in a particular weight class in a set number of days. Boxers can only box once a day!!! They have two sessions to cut down on the length of each session. They can have 3 or 4 rings and have 3 sessions if necessary. 11:00 am (lasts until about 1 pm); 3:00 pm (til 5 pm) and a 7:00 pm (til 9 pm). Everyone can get breaks and eat meals. Sounds good to me.

[skinnyman]

I think it sounds good to have them both at the same time from a coach's and athlete's standpoint. However it doesn't leave any time for sightseeing in the host city.

[Dennis]

Most coaches wouldn't have more than a handful of boxers. They might have a day or two with nobody boxing or only boxing in the morning or evening session. Should have a little time to see some sights in Denver.

[Kolya]

Most coaches wouldn't have more than a handful of boxers. They might have a day or two with nobody boxing or only boxing in the morning or evening session. Should have a little time to see some sights in Denver.

WHat sights?

[DCAmateurBoxing]

Most coaches wouldn't have more than a handful of boxers. They might have a day or two with nobody boxing or only boxing in the morning or evening session. Should have a little time to see some sights in Denver.

WHat sights?

I loved Denver. Really nice city. Probably the cleanest downtown I've ever scene. LoDo (downtown area) was nice, caught a show at Red Rock Ampitheater. . .went to Coors Field and caught a game. Plenty to do around there.

[Kolya]

Ok, let me issue my disclaimer here, everyone-I'm from the general Rocky Mountain area. The reason I joke about Denver or Salt Lake City is because everyone in Montana will joke about the surrounding states. I know there's plenty of delightful things to do in Denver and SLC. Well....maybe not SLC, but Denver and CS at least.

[boxmel]

I know there's plenty of delightful things to do in Denver and SLC. Well....maybe not SLC,

C'mon, Kolya - I found plenty to do in SLC and surrounding area.

[Dennis]

March to June 2009 is going to be very busy. The West Michigan Golden Gloves and East Michigan Golden Gloves then the Michigan Golden Gloves in April. The National Golden Gloves in early May. The Michigan Senior Open Tournament in mid May. The Great Lakes Regional Championships and finally the U.S. Championships in June. Wow. It will be very busy. Oh, I forgot, the Michigan Junior Olympics, the Region 5 J.O. tourney and the National Junior Olympics. Yes, busy indeed.

[boxmel]

I heard yesterday that the U.S. Championships, Women's Nationals AND national JOs may all be held at the same time in Denver. Wonder where all the officials and computer techs are coming from, if this is true.

[Dennis]

If true Mel, I wonder how many sessions a day they will have and how many rings. They might also extend the tournament a day or two and stagger the days of competition. It could be a real circus, but it also makes life easier for some coaches.

The one thing I like about it is that I would be able to watch some of the womens and JO bouts. If they are held on different dates and locations, I probably won't go to the Women's Championships or the National J.O. Championships.

[boxmel]

If true Mel, I wonder how many sessions a day they will have and how many rings. They might also extend the tournament a day or two and stagger the days of competition. It could be a real circus, but it also makes life easier for some coaches.

Held at the same time - NOT at the same place. Can't interfer with the AIBA testing at the men's championships. You couldn't have it all in one room. USA Boxing isn't into having circuses - at least never before.

[Dennis]

Held at the same time, but not the same place? Will they be in the same city, but just different venues? Same venue, but different rooms?

[boxmel]

Held at the same time, but not the same place? Will they be in the same city, but just different venues? Same venue, but different rooms?

Since I don't know any concrete details and am just speculating - yes, depending on where in Denver the Championships will be held - I would guess they would try for the same venue, different rooms. I can 99% guarantee they will not put the Womens and JO championships in the same room as the men's becuse of AIBA testing (now, watch then do that!).

[JOEY DAWEJKO]

actually i think they are trying to put all the tournaments together. From wha they were saying wen i was in camo, they are trying to put the jo's together with the men and womens nationlas.