Greatest Record

Who has the greatest fight record in boxing history?

Bob Fitzsimmons
0
No votes
Sam Langford
4
9%
Harry Greb
5
11%
Mickey Walker
0
No votes
Benny Leonard
2
4%
Henry Armstrong
8
18%
Ezzard Charles
3
7%
Ray Robinson
9
20%
Archie Moore
9
20%
Muhammad Ali
5
11%
 
Total votes: 45

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...or anyone else I've missed...
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Marciano. Hard to top 49-0.
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I gotta go with the great Henry Armtrong...But the great Willie Pep's record could eclipse Henry's...
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It has to be Greb. C'mon, folkes, Greb's your man for this thread.
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raylawpc wrote:Marciano. Hard to top 49-0.

I thinks the same, of course...


:TU:
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Post by dajuggernaut »

Joe Calzaghe. 8)
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Can't believe Moore is leading in this poll.

If you know your boxing history it's hard to not put Greb clearly at #1, although I can understand arguments for Armstrong.

Definitely not Marciano.
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Post by BroughtonRulesRefuge »

dempseyfire wrote:Can't believe Moore is leading in this poll.

If you know your boxing history it's hard to not put Greb clearly at #1, although I can understand arguments for Armstrong.

Definitely not Marciano.
- Really now, who's "record" is the one most discussed?

Rocky hands down, Robby next.

Since greatest not defined, I can make a case for Young Stribling, though I'm kinda partial to Carnera and Langford for personal reasons, and how come no Jimmy Wilde, eh? Is it British or Welsh bias rearing up?

Well, at any rate, welcome to democracy 101 where the monied elite, the highly educated and the unwashed illiterati merge to vote for consensus. Of course, I didn't vote for such a nebulas title when Robby is the consensus best fighter ever. In a logical world it should properly follow that he'd have the greatest record.

At any rate, no flies on the 'ol Mongoose who is another favorite of mine, so what's not to like?
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I sort of like the current reading having voted for Moore. He's a working man's hero....He was the consummate KO artist, but yet experienced the feeling himself. He came back from the grave with Durelle, and his career lasted as long as just about anyone...even managed to keep improving as he seemingly past what should have been his prime. He ducked no one and was ALWAYS competitive. He may well be the last of his kind.

His overall story is pretty compelling

However with that said,Greb, Armstrong and maybe Pep are "the kind" I'm talkin' about. They are all from that material of which I speak.

49 and 0 is great. But I don't see the list of challenges (not to mention challengers) as distinguished.

If you are looking for perfection.....Vinyl is the answer....The 49 and 0 of the upholstery world
If you are searching for elegance in excellence.....I'd choose leather....It's got flaws....and it's been there.....but nothing really beats it.
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Not the greatest, but I think JC Chavez's title fight record is vastly underrated.
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I voted for Moore, toughest era overall excellent busy record - fought everyone, beating most - longevity and most KO's... tough one to beat.

SRR
Greb

and there are many others yet!
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jimglen wrote:I voted for Moore, toughest era overall excellent busy record - fought everyone, beating most - longevity and most KO's... tough one to beat.

SRR
Greb

and there are many others yet!
Greb beat more HOF fighters than Moore, was busier than Moore (and lost less) so I don't see how you can say it was a tougher era. And the fact that he couldn't manage one win over his arch-nemesis, Ezzard Charles (who has a greater record than Moore IMO) . . .I just don't possibly see how he can be #1 or rated over Greb.
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toughest era
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Post by Ezzard »

I am surprised at the results so far. I thought it would be between Langford and Greb with Charles as the number 3.
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jimglen wrote:toughest era
Right, and I'm saying the middleweight/light HW/small heavyweight 'division' (all these guys fought each other regardless of weight) of the late teens and early 20s was a deeper era than the middle/light heavyweight division of the 1940s, especially when you look at exactly who Moore and Greb fought. Greb fought more hall of famers and overall a deeper, tougher group and came out better than Moore did.
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archie moores because not many boxers in this modern age is going to have as many fights as he had KO's people who do have that many fights now are usually journey men not LH champ and HW title challenger
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Ezzard Charles. His quality/quantity ratio is one of the highest.
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As mentioned above Charles, Langford and Greb have the best resumes.
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I just have to go with Robinson because of all of the greats he beat.
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Like most things in boxing, being undefeated has more to do with careful matchmaking and timing.

I am still shocked that records like Greb's and Langford's have only 2 votes each.
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I was just going to say, two votes for Greb. One mine, presumably the other from DempseyFire. Frankly, I find that astonishing.
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Post by delisa »

I voted for Greb also based on the list offered.
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Post by Grimm »

Ezzard wrote:Like most things in boxing, being undefeated has more to do with careful matchmaking and timing.

I am still shocked that records like Greb's and Langford's have only 2 votes each.

It just comes down to only being able to pick one.
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Post by Sweet P »

This poll is to hard
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Post by boxerbob »

calzaghe lol take it thats a joke

to be a great fighter yiou have to fight and beat great fighters in thier prime

calzaghe has not got 1 great fighter on his record who was anyhwere near his prime

will tucker pudwill count???
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