We'll never see this again
We'll never see this again
I doubt we will ever see a show like last nights MEN one for a long while. Great show, big undercard and three/four big fights, all of which could be a main event in it's own right.
But I can't see it again for a long time now! I'd suspect more conservative matahcmaking again, with a single "Main Event" and support being more along the lines of perhaps a single commonwealth/WBU level bout.
But I can't see it again for a long time now! I'd suspect more conservative matahcmaking again, with a single "Main Event" and support being more along the lines of perhaps a single commonwealth/WBU level bout.
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Absolutely disagree. Economic realities mean that people are going to be less likely to fork out for monthly Sky subscriptions, less likely to spend on PPV, and more selective about the fights they pay to go and see live.whicker wrote:I doubt we will ever see a show like last nights MEN one for a long while. Great show, big undercard and three/four big fights, all of which could be a main event in it's own right.
But I can't see it again for a long time now! I'd suspect more conservative matahcmaking again, with a single "Main Event" and support being more along the lines of perhaps a single commonwealth/WBU level bout.
It stands to reason, therefore, that promoters will have to work harder to attract people. They'll have to put on more attractive shows, with more competitive fights and more recognizable names, if they're to really coax people to part with their money in these times.
Watch this year be one of the very best for boxing.
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DG.
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Carbo wrote:whicker wrote:
They'll have to put on more attractive shows, with more competitive fights and more recognizable names, if they're to really coax people to part with their money in these times.
Watch this year be one of the very best for boxing.
Agree!
I cancelled Sky Sports 2 months ago and will ONLY ever pay for a odecent PPV and that means at least 3 decent fights........at least!
Anthing less and I am watching a free stream as I did for Khan Vs Prescott!
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Hats off to FW for a quality show
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one of the worst nights warren has had overall in a long time (khan was prob 1 oh his biggest single loses)
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x2Coco wrote:Hats off to FW for a quality show
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Indeed- likewise the last show at the NIA was great too- some top qualiy action. Shame that the hayemkaer bill has gone soggy, otherwise it could have rounded off a great 4 weeks of Saturday fights.Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:x2Coco wrote:Hats off to FW for a quality show
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Neil Jones Jnr
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Warren and Sports Network get slated enough, they eserve loads of credit for this promotion.
Maloney has put some great fights on recently, but he can't quite compete with an event like this yet.
Great show Sports Network, and for once I didn't begrudge paying the 15 quid.
Maloney has put some great fights on recently, but he can't quite compete with an event like this yet.
Great show Sports Network, and for once I didn't begrudge paying the 15 quid.
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can anyone else remember a boxing bill where.....in 3 of the 4 main events the home fighter got sparked...
enzo sack-a-spaghetti
bradley (oh so sadly) pryce
sicky (as a parrot) cook
enzo sack-a-spaghetti
bradley (oh so sadly) pryce
sicky (as a parrot) cook
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WildWaylon
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Yeah credit where its due a good bill. Promotors need to please the public and the TV companies so I think things are beginning to look up. Wish FFN was a bit more exciting like it used to be. Warren remains the number one.
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Neil Jones Jnr
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My only concern now though is, Warren no longer has a cook or enzo to build a good card. So who is going to be on the bill with Kahn to justify a ppv?
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I was going to say the same thing, although Pryce wasn't the home boxer, he WAS the Champion, it was a fight card which saw some surprises.rhino222 wrote:can anyone else remember a boxing bill where.....in 3 of the 4 main events the home fighter got sparked...
enzo sack-a-spaghetti
bradley (oh so sadly) pryce
sicky (as a parrot) cook
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Good point there.Neil Jones Jnr wrote:My only concern now though is, Warren no longer has a cook or enzo to build a good card. So who is going to be on the bill with Kahn to justify a ppv?
Its possible that khan could headline a PPV without much else on the bill, depending on who he faces.
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I think it's time for promoters to put aside their differences and start working together to put the big fights we want to see on otherwise British boxing will just go to the dogs over the next year. :(
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Big Enz, Nicky Cook and Bradley Pryce's careers have taken a bad knock last night.
But Warren's still got guys with potential coming through e.g Kell Brook, Denton Vassell, Anthony Crolla, Derek Chisora and Paul Smith is not far from me a really decent fight.
But Warren's still got guys with potential coming through e.g Kell Brook, Denton Vassell, Anthony Crolla, Derek Chisora and Paul Smith is not far from me a really decent fight.
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iwz678 wrote:
But Warren's still got guys with potential coming through e.g Kell Brook, Denton Vassell, Anthony Crolla, Derek Chisora and Paul Smith is not far from me a really decent fight.
At British/European level for the next year or two I'd say, for sure.
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oliverfennell
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The Walsh brothersNeil Jones Jnr wrote:My only concern now though is, Warren no longer has a cook or enzo to build a good card. So who is going to be on the bill with Kahn to justify a ppv?
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I think if they're aasking us to pay PPV, then it might carry on like this, FW fighters in dangerous fights.whicker wrote:I doubt we will ever see a show like last nights MEN one for a long while. Great show, big undercard and three/four big fights, all of which could be a main event in it's own right.
But I can't see it again for a long time now! I'd suspect more conservative matahcmaking again, with a single "Main Event" and support being more along the lines of perhaps a single commonwealth/WBU level bout.
Then again, now that Khan has "stopped a legend", Khan can perhaps fight lesser ppl and still justify PPV. it will be interesting to see if he gets away with it.
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not sure which one it was, but one of 'em looked really good on I think a FFN a month or 2 ago.oliverfennell wrote:The Walsh brothersNeil Jones Jnr wrote:My only concern now though is, Warren no longer has a cook or enzo to build a good card. So who is going to be on the bill with Kahn to justify a ppv?
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DavidPayne
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Thats the trouble though, it needs a sea-change in mode of operation from Warren to sustain nights like last night. He needs to stop being a manager of fighters, where the investment is longer term and he has to focus on keeping a fighter unbeaten.
As a pure promoter, nights like last night are entirely within Warren's grasp because 3 defeats in 4 headline bouts is a shocker for Frank on his current set-up but would not have the downsides if the fighters status, future potential weren't so contractually central to his profit line. It would be all about that night, and perhaps, the next one. And less about navigating a fighter to WBO title without risk and then 5 easy defences. Repeat.
If he just approached the manager's of a fighter with a potential match-up and a purse, he wouldn't be tied to the victor and would be entirely more useful to a television network one would suspect.
As I've said before, the dual position of manager and promoter is as big a problem for boxing as sanctioning bodies and it doesn't begin and end with Warren but he's the highest profile in the UK.
Of the defeated fighters, I suspect Pryce will be rise the best from his defeat.
As a pure promoter, nights like last night are entirely within Warren's grasp because 3 defeats in 4 headline bouts is a shocker for Frank on his current set-up but would not have the downsides if the fighters status, future potential weren't so contractually central to his profit line. It would be all about that night, and perhaps, the next one. And less about navigating a fighter to WBO title without risk and then 5 easy defences. Repeat.
If he just approached the manager's of a fighter with a potential match-up and a purse, he wouldn't be tied to the victor and would be entirely more useful to a television network one would suspect.
As I've said before, the dual position of manager and promoter is as big a problem for boxing as sanctioning bodies and it doesn't begin and end with Warren but he's the highest profile in the UK.
Of the defeated fighters, I suspect Pryce will be rise the best from his defeat.
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it;s cheeky as fvck to ask for £15 PPV to watch a 22 year old at fringe world levelNeil Jones Jnr wrote:Warren and Sports Network get slated enough, they eserve loads of credit for this promotion.
Maloney has put some great fights on recently, but he can't quite compete with an event like this yet.
Great show Sports Network, and for once I didn't begrudge paying the 15 quid.
PPV is for Lewis v Tyson, Hatton v Mayweather
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Maybe he will pair him up with the Olympians on future bills? I don't think that'll be enough to satisfy PPV though.Neil Jones Jnr wrote:My only concern now though is, Warren no longer has a cook or enzo to build a good card. So who is going to be on the bill with Kahn to justify a ppv?
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yup credit to SN great evenings boxing. 
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hitman_hatton1
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what happened in that gbh case against em?oliverfennell wrote:The Walsh brothersNeil Jones Jnr wrote:My only concern now though is, Warren no longer has a cook or enzo to build a good card. So who is going to be on the bill with Kahn to justify a ppv?