Hardest training British fighters ever.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Jul 2004, 08:06

Who do you think in their primes were the hardest and most dedicated trainers in British Boxing.

Here are some suggestions

Frank Bruno- Was always in fantastic physical shape and by all accounts was an extremely dedicated trainer throughout his long career.

Nigel Benn- Always in top shape I also read that as a novice pro when he was being trained by (Brian Lynch?) he often overtrained and once passed out on a long run, when checks were run on him by a doctor his body fat level was dangerously low.

Barry McGugian - Always in great shape and I've heard a terrificly hard trainer.

Any one agree? Any other ideas, suggestions, stories etc?

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 18 Jul 2004, 13:09

i once read dennis andries was a fitness fanatic.
paul ingle too.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 18 Jul 2004, 13:45

Butterbean fought in Britain once.

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 18 Jul 2004, 15:45

ive got a video of nigel benn, and on it is camcorder of him trainging,, looks pretty intense..

i read in boxing news a few weeks ago that current light heavy champ Peter Oboh is so so fit,, and that his warm up routine is said to be the same as some fighters whole session,,,

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 18 Jul 2004, 15:51

Jim McDonnell was always known for having remarkable stamina.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 05:47

I've actually read an account of Nigel Benn's workout, It was pretty hardcore...

However, compared to Kostya Tszyu, it's nothing, Tszyu by far has the most punishing workout in the book.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 19 Jul 2004, 05:51

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I've actually read an account of Nigel Benn's workout, It was pretty hardcore...

However, compared to Kostya Tszyu, it's nothing, Tszyu by far has the most punishing workout in the book.

you can imagine the kind of training Kosta did in Siberia as part of the Soviet national team in the late 80's...
The guy has been training like a pro since his early teens i should imagine.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 05:58

He does two workouts every day. 1st workout if solely for strength and conditioning, and lasts about 2 1/2 hours. Then later he does another 3 hours in the gym doing standard boxing training, he then finishes off with a 10 minute gymnastics routine, including headstands and tumbling around the ring. quite amazing really. That's not even including his roadwork!

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 19 Jul 2004, 06:18

James, that workout book you reviewed on Max, is it going to be on sale over here?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 19 Jul 2004, 07:07

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He does two workouts every day. 1st workout if solely for strength and conditioning, and lasts about 2 1/2 hours. Then later he does another 3 hours in the gym doing standard boxing training, he then finishes off with a 10 minute gymnastics routine, including headstands and tumbling around the ring. quite amazing really. That's not even including his roadwork!

I have seen Erik Teymour train and he includes a lot of headstands and bridges to strengthen the neck and torso... also uses the tennis ball for dribbling to improve hand speed and coordination.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 19 Jul 2004, 07:09

Wayne McCullough obviously.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 19 Jul 2004, 08:31

knockout wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He does two workouts every day. 1st workout if solely for strength and conditioning, and lasts about 2 1/2 hours. Then later he does another 3 hours in the gym doing standard boxing training, he then finishes off with a 10 minute gymnastics routine, including headstands and tumbling around the ring. quite amazing really. That's not even including his roadwork!
I have seen Erik Teymour train and he includes a lot of headstands and bridges to strengthen the neck and torso... also uses the tennis ball for dribbling to improve hand speed and coordination.

Teymour is very impressive.

Will be on the world stage soon.

IMO he would murder someone like Carl Froch and would give Jeff Lacy heaps of trouble.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 08:33

Coconut wrote:James, that workout book you reviewed on Max, is it going to be on sale over here?

Sadly, there are no plans to distribute it over here. However, if you go to Amazon.com. it is on sale there, however it is on pre-order and the American title is slightly different.

Look for 'Workouts with boxing's greatest champions' it is by Gary Todd. Not sure what the release date in the states is yet.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 19 Jul 2004, 10:49

DavidPayne wrote:Wayne McCullough obviously.

Yes i was going to say Wayne McCullough, he must be in great shape and condition to take some of the shots he has especially against Harrison. I know he is not British but Bernie Hopkins must put in some hours to stay so fit at 39.

J · Post by J » 19 Jul 2004, 10:56

if only nard was british

thogh we have our own equivilent I suppose in Johnny Nelson he must do similar one imagines.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 11:24

Bernard is basically always in fighting shape, so when a fight comes along, he doesn't have to waste time losing weight, nor does he have to enter the ring dehydrated. Sensible chap, sadly a rarity in todays boxing.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Jul 2004, 11:36

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Bernard is basically always in fighting shape, so when a fight comes along, he doesn't have to waste time losing weight, nor does he have to enter the ring dehydrated. Sensible chap, sadly a rarity in todays boxing.

I've often wondered when many fighters go into 'training camp' are they training for a specific fight or just training to make the weight.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 19 Jul 2004, 11:42

KOJOE90 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Bernard is basically always in fighting shape, so when a fight comes along, he doesn't have to waste time losing weight, nor does he have to enter the ring dehydrated. Sensible chap, sadly a rarity in todays boxing.
I've often wondered when many fighters go into 'training camp' are they training for a specific fight or just training to make the weight.

guys like johnny Nelson, sam soliman, Scott dixon, Elvis Michailenko, Erik Teymour, Takaloo, peter oboh never go much over there fight weight....

Garry Delaney, Bruce scott, ricky hatton, Joe Calazghe, all blow up between fights.....

The guys in the top list never really stop training just drop to 4 runs a week rather than twice a day 6 days a week when they arent fighting.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 11:43

I would say that the majiroty of fighters these days campaign way above their fighting weight, and that they have to lose weight for the first few weeks before they get themselves really fit.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 19 Jul 2004, 12:02

is it me? uh?

Do you mean most fighters walk around way above their fighting weight.

Clay-Bey has to be one of the worst. Did you read about his appearance for the Mayfield fight?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 12:05

Sorry, what I meant to say, was that most fighters campaign way below their natural weight, came out all wrong though.

Everyone tries to gain the weight advantage by boiling down and killing themselves to make weight, a consequence no doubt of the 24 hour weigh in.

In addition a lot of them, because most boxers aren't that active any more, have plenty of time to get fat as fornicate in between fights.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 19 Jul 2004, 12:06

DavidPayne wrote:is it me? uh?

Do you mean most fighters walk around way above their fighting weight.

Clay-Bey has to be one of the worst. Did you read about his appearance for the Mayfield fight?

No what happened there then? Despite his poor fitness Cley Bey is a talented boxer.

J · Post by J » 19 Jul 2004, 12:06

DavidPayne wrote:is it me? uh?

Do you mean most fighters walk around way above their fighting weight.

Clay-Bey has to be one of the worst. Did you read about his appearance for the Mayfield fight?

yeah was in Boxing news , pretty condemning.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2004, 12:07

He's a lazy bastard is cley-bey, never has really entered in decent shape.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Jul 2004, 12:08

headhunter wrote:i once read dennis andries was a fitness fanatic.
paul ingle too.

I thought Ingle had a habit of ballooning between fights? Or have I got that wrong?