Hatton gives up Mandatory position, Harris vs Hatton = dead

krikit · Post by **krikit** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:42

Promoter allegedly and Ricky Hatton have today withdrawn from their mandatory challenger position in the WBA and will not go to purse bids for a fight with Vivian Harris. Warren said, "If for example we bid $2m for the fight, then Harris will get $1.6m and Ricky will get $400k. If you ask me if Harris is worth $1.6m, with the greatest of respect to him, he is definitely not worth it. I don’t believe he is even worth the $750k that we are offering

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jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:46

Oh dear, this is very bad news indeed. Well, there we go, another big fight goes floating down the liffy.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:48

Frank is trying to have his cake and eat it!!!!!!

fornicate him!!!!

He wants his boy to have home advantage and the bigger side of the purse as the challenger...... DOESNT HAPPEN

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:51

FW is out of order here, yes Ricky is the draw but Harris is the champion. They should go to purse bids if thats what it takes to get a real belt and not that piece of shit he has been defending.

Harris actually said he would split any purse bid 50-50 so cant see why they cant do that.

Come on Hatton & Warren lets see some real fights you have got away with murder the last couple of years.

1 blown up superfeather punchbag coming right up....

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:55

Who ever heard of a mandatory contender withdrawing from his postion?
Ricky leave Warren now and get this fight on. Your not short of money and its your chance to get a real world title which you have said you have always wanted. Prove it take this fight, he will regert this decsion I think.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:00

It's true, I cannot recall the last time a challenger threw away their mandatory position, it seems madness to me, is Hatton saying he would rather not challenge for the belt at all and take less money. It's tantamount to saying that the money is all he is interested in.

This looks very bad. I really thought that Hatton might be prepared for purse bids.

DK2112 · Post by **DK2112** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:03

I think if things don't improve soon, Ricky will probably consider his future in boxing. This is getting ridiculous now. Harris should have been happy with his 750K, but at the same time I can see what he means about being the champion and wanting more than Hatton and Warren should do whatever it takes to make the fight happen. As it is, Ricky will now fight in the MEN arena against another foreign nobody. Regardless of money, if Hatton destroys Harris, then the money will really start to roll in. Then Ricky can say 'I'm the WBA Champion, I want more money from the pot'. Then the big fights will come. I find this unbelievable, get rid of allegedly ASAP.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:05

Hang on a minute. Does it not occur to you that it is quite likely Hatton who turned and around and said 'I'm not fighting him if it goes to purse bids.' After all, do you think Hatton would let Warren FORCE him to relinquish his mandatory position, not in a million years if he didn't want to.

I have to lay this at the feet of Hatton. He's the fighter, and it's his career.

dr_hook · Post by **dr_hook** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:19

allegedly is scared he will lose on purse bids to other promoters that will force Hatton to fight in another country. That’s why the WBU title exists. There are no mandatory fights and you can fight any bums. Hatton never defended the British title because when he was the champ Junior Witter was the mandatory fighter for the title. Hatton also never fought for the European title because Warren would of lost the purse to Urkal handlers. Hatton needs Harris, all the other champions are busy and none of them want to defend their title in Manchester because they are names in the USA or fighting someone better. Hatton could have fought Mitchell in June but they didn’t want to put up the money and they didn’t want Hatton to face rusty Kostya Tsyzu in America/Australia if Hatton won that fight. :x

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:23

knockout wrote:Frank is trying to have his cake and eat it!!!!!!

fornicate him!!!!

He wants his boy to have home advantage and the bigger side of the purse as the challenger...... DOESNT HAPPEN

Exactly !

So what if Hatton gets the short end of the purse !

Danny Williams did it and look at him now !

What Fwank really means is he won't get his usual share !

Prize tosser ! ( Allegedly ! ).. I did not write this - someone esle did !

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:24

Paul Spadafora it is then. Unless Hatton is a man of his word and walks...

Wilko · Post by **Wilko** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:25

Unbelievable.

Call Harris greedy for wanting too much when he's not the drawer but he is the champion and that is far more important.

So does Ricky really want to be in boxing for the glory? doesn't look like it.

For the sake of one fight isn't it better to swallow your pride? if he were to win the title he and Sports Network could then make all the demands they like.

So yet another unknown lightweight at the MEN coming up. do you think people will still want to pay to see him?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:27

krikit wrote:said, "If for example we bid $2m

Dont bid 2 million then. bid a lot smaller.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:29

Oh well, better move on.

I'd love to see Hatton try and handle Emmanuel Augustus but that one won't happen. Lovemore N'Dou would provide an equally tough test, I hope we get him.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:31

REAL_DEAL wrote:
krikit wrote:said, "If for example we bid $2m
Dont bid 2 million then. bid a lot smaller.

Exactly !

And he can pay Hatton some back door money ! ( Sounds a bit gay ! )..

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:31

REAL_DEAL wrote:
krikit wrote:said, "If for example we bid $2m
Dont bid 2 million then. bid a lot smaller.

Yeah right REAL_DEAL, and miss out on another M.E.N sellout pay night? Like that's going to happen.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:40

as much as Harris was out of order.

Warren and Hatton had the opportunity to make the fight...and they didn't. shame.

Wilko · Post by **Wilko** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:48

So in the last couple of months Warren has failed to make:

Hatton - Harris
Johnson - Calzaghe
Harrison - Skelton

Warren couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

what kind of manager withdraws his fighter from a mandatory position for a genuine world title? greedy one obviously.

DK2112 · Post by **DK2112** » 06 Aug 2004, 12:50

Wilko wrote:Unbelievable.

Call Harris greedy for wanting too much when he's not the drawer but he is the champion and that is far more important.

So does Ricky really want to be in boxing for the glory? doesn't look like it.

For the sake of one fight isn't it better to swallow your pride? if he were to win the title he and Sports Network could then make all the demands they like.

So yet another unknown lightweight at the MEN coming up. do you think people will still want to pay to see him?

The fans should boycott his fights until he fights someone worth talking about. That's the only way to hurt the promoter, stop buying tickets. I'll be disgusted if Hatton now fights another bum, I really will. If he does, I think people will start pointing the finger at Hatton - does he really want it? There's only so much you can blame a promoter for, will Hatton take the easy route and keep knocking out nobodies?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Aug 2004, 13:00

This is so depressing, Hatton should walk away and try and find other oppertunities or retire.

His career is passing him by. He must have made a few quid by now, so why hang around if he ain;t going to fight World class fighters?

Sad, very sad for Ricky, his fans and the sport of Boxing.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 06 Aug 2004, 13:37

This must be so demotivational for Hatton too, I can see him someone Spadafora even turning him over.

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » 06 Aug 2004, 13:47

Goz wrote:This must be so demotivational for Hatton too, I can see him someone Spadafora even turning him over.

Doesn't appear that Hatton has much motivation to begin with. What fighter gives up his number 1 ranking. He should suck it up for one fight take the pay cut. If he wins then Frank and him can make all the demands they want.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 06 Aug 2004, 14:00

This is terrible PR. not only for SN, but for Hatton as well.

What a miserable time for british boxing.

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 06 Aug 2004, 14:24

Ricky Hatton = the Tim Henman of Boxing.

(And that's probably unfair to Timmay H., but I couldn't resist throwing it out.)

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Aug 2004, 15:54

From how I have read everything (I have kept quite untill now) it seems like whilst Harris is okay with the money, he is peeved that Hatton will be recieving more than him (which is understandable).

I don't think any blame should be laid on FW because he has met Harries' demands. However, I can certainly see Harries' point of view also. This fight could be still alive IMO if RICKY HATTON was prepared to give more of his purse to Harries. Hatton will still be on a career biggest purse, and its the best opportunity to win the title - I would certainly bend a bit to make the fight.

Warren has the money to stike the deal, however it is RICKY who should be prepared to spread the money more evenly.

Its Hatton who has not painted himself well in this, not either Warren or Harries.

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