Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
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confirmation
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Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Lurch was lucky against Holyfield and got outboxed by Chagaev the last time.
Surely Lurch will get beaten again?
Surely Lurch will get beaten again?
Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
I'll go for Chagev by points unan... 
Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Its a tough one to call, fight 1 was a close one, and Chagaev has been so inactive through injury.
Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Lurch, lol
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TerribleTerry
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Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
I hope so.
The big fellar has improved from side show freak to a decent enough boxer - he has certainly mastered the basics and doesn't look as dis jointed as most fighters over 6 and a half feet tend to.
That said I dont really relish another championship run from him. I hope Chagaev can outbox him and take a points win.
One behemoth was felled last night (Semmy Schilt in a K1 rules match) I am hoping Chagaev can make it two
The big fellar has improved from side show freak to a decent enough boxer - he has certainly mastered the basics and doesn't look as dis jointed as most fighters over 6 and a half feet tend to.
That said I dont really relish another championship run from him. I hope Chagaev can outbox him and take a points win.
One behemoth was felled last night (Semmy Schilt in a K1 rules match) I am hoping Chagaev can make it two
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confirmation
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Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Agreed. I think everyone is hoping that Chagaev does us all a favour and disposes of Lurch. But Lurch tends to get the best of dodgy decisions so it really is a very tough fight to call.
Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
I think Lurch will win big. He looked like he didn't want to punch Holyfield, but he's improved a lot since the first fight and he's not going to let Chagaev steal it like last time.
Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
I agree with Bomber, Chagaev should win on points.
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oliverfennell
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Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Valuev is underrated, I feel. Not exciting by any means, but people always go on as if he'll be soundly defeated by the first decent heavyweight he faces - forgetting that he's already beaten quite a lot of decent heavyweights! OK, he's unconvincing and boring in a weak era, but the results speak for themselves - wins over Donald, Ruiz, Lyakovich, even Barrett and Holyfield, may not be the stuff of legends but they are the stuff of a world class heavyweioght at this time. Chagaev doesn't exactly set the pulse racing either. I think that contrary to the opinions above, a win for Valuev is better for boxing because at least the belt will stay with someone who's known to the wider public. He's "that 7-foot Russian", while Chagaev is "just another Russian" (I know he's Uzbeki, but you get the point).
Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
chagaev on points
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DavidPayne
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Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Trouble is there are degrees of contention with the Donald, Ruiz I and Holyfield fights, which largely leaves you with Lyakovich and Barret - I think people are hard on him. I htink he is the fight Vitaly should have been targetting for his comeback.oliverfennell wrote:Valuev is underrated, I feel. Not exciting by any means, but people always go on as if he'll be soundly defeated by the first decent heavyweight he faces - forgetting that he's already beaten quite a lot of decent heavyweights! OK, he's unconvincing and boring in a weak era, but the results speak for themselves - wins over Donald, Ruiz, Lyakovich, even Barrett and Holyfield, may not be the stuff of legends but they are the stuff of a world class heavyweioght at this time. Chagaev doesn't exactly set the pulse racing either. I think that contrary to the opinions above, a win for Valuev is better for boxing because at least the belt will stay with someone who's known to the wider public. He's "that 7-foot Russian", while Chagaev is "just another Russian" (I know he's Uzbeki, but you get the point).
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oliverfennell
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Re: Can Chagaev beat Lurch again?
Yes I realise they were close fights with a sizeable body of opinion saying he lost them. However "frauds", "jokes", "bums" or whatever other labels are flung at Valuev, do not even go to close decisions in that class.DavidPayne wrote:Trouble is there are degrees of contention with the Donald, Ruiz I and Holyfield fights, which largely leaves you with Lyakovich and Barret - I think people are hard on him. I htink he is the fight Vitaly should have been targetting for his comeback.oliverfennell wrote:Valuev is underrated, I feel. Not exciting by any means, but people always go on as if he'll be soundly defeated by the first decent heavyweight he faces - forgetting that he's already beaten quite a lot of decent heavyweights! OK, he's unconvincing and boring in a weak era, but the results speak for themselves - wins over Donald, Ruiz, Lyakovich, even Barrett and Holyfield, may not be the stuff of legends but they are the stuff of a world class heavyweioght at this time. Chagaev doesn't exactly set the pulse racing either. I think that contrary to the opinions above, a win for Valuev is better for boxing because at least the belt will stay with someone who's known to the wider public. He's "that 7-foot Russian", while Chagaev is "just another Russian" (I know he's Uzbeki, but you get the point).