Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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What happens in this fight?

Can Enzo bounce back?

Can he score a KO?

Can he regain his confidence?

Can he get past this and get a rematch with Ola Aflobai?

Or will the unbeaten Lebedev finish off Enzo's career?
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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I think that Enzo will smoke his boots :oo

Good luck to the lad :!:
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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I'm looking forward to this one- a great support bout- Which means it will probably be cancelled!!

fornicate the world!

Nah, I'm joking-

Should be a great fight- both fighters really have something to lose here.

That said, if Lebedev loses, he might be in a position to get more fights as an "opponent" whereas a win might actually leave him in the cold a bit, Brendis Prescott, Choi Tsven... , Ola Afolabi style..
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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Enzo is getting knocked out here. This guy is better than Ofalabi.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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This is a very tough fight for Enzo but i think he will have the desire and will to win back and KO this guy it would be a good win for him to get him back in for a Afolabi rematch
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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Riddick Blowe wrote:Enzo is getting knocked out here. This guy is better than Ofalabi.

Thats the key thing here

Just how good is this other guy?

I am unsure

Is he just a protected undefeated fighter that has been wrapped in cotton wool

or

Is he a future World Champion in waiting

:??
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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FLINT ISLAND wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Enzo is getting knocked out here. This guy is better than Ofalabi.

Thats the key thing here

Just how good is this other guy?

I am unsure

Is he just a protected undefeated fighter that has been wrapped in cotton wool

or

Is he a future World Champion in waiting

:??
He used to be a Light Heavy and he had four years out of the game...I'm not expecting much
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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FLINT ISLAND wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Enzo is getting knocked out here. This guy is better than Ofalabi.

Thats the key thing here

Just how good is this other guy?

I am unsure

Is he just a protected undefeated fighter that has been wrapped in cotton wool

or

Is he a future World Champion in waiting

:??
A bit like Enzo if you discount the loss to Lee Swaby.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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Hopefully he does us all a favour and KO's Enzo brutally.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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lirva wrote:Hopefully he does us all a favour and KO's Enzo brutally.
http://forum.boxrec.com/posting.php?mod ... &p=1884755

a strange comment. I dont think enzo has too many enemies in boxing, to me hes always come across as a nice guy who took his loss against olafabi quite graciously.

the thing is i worry about enzo s punch resistance and confidence.As a fellow welsh lad i ll be rooting for him though and hopefully a good performance will earn him a return with olafabi or even a domestic showdown with herbie hide
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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enzo will stop him in a couple of rounds
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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damianhucker1 wrote:enzo will stop him in a couple of rounds
like he was supposed to do with ola?
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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Seriously, what does Lebedev actually stand to gain if he wins this. An international title, which means... what exactly?

Unless he transforms into a ticket seller, where will he go even if he wins?
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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whicker wrote:Seriously, what does Lebedev actually stand to gain if he wins this. An international title, which means... what exactly?
What does he stand to gain?

Probably a career best payday thus far, a career best win against a fighter still considered to be a scalp... Enzo's only 2 fights removed from his unification bout with Haye, not to mention a bit of airtime on a decent card.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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charlieb wrote:
whicker wrote:Seriously, what does Lebedev actually stand to gain if he wins this. An international title, which means... what exactly?
What does he stand to gain?

Probably a career best payday thus far.... not to mention a bit of airtime on a decent card.
Yes, but he is getting that for taking part in the fight already- Win OR Lose.

Well, on a personal level it would be a great win for him, but in regards to his career , it's hard to see what he would really gain if he won- unless of course he really does have the makings of a World Champion.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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charlieb wrote:
whicker wrote:Seriously, what does Lebedev actually stand to gain if he wins this. An international title, which means... what exactly?
What does he stand to gain?

Probably a career best payday thus far, a career best win against a fighter still considered to be a scalp... Enzo's only 2 fights removed from his unification bout with Haye, not to mention a bit of airtime on a decent card.


i agree with you there.its a very good fight for lebedev to take in my opinion
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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caffrey wrote: i agree with you there.its a very good fight for lebedev to take in my opinion
Yeah- I'm not saying he shouldn't take it, of course. It's just that, even if he wins, what opportunities lie ahead for him?
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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I hope Enzo wins this because i met 12 months ago at the khan prescott scrap and thought he was a very nice fella who had a lot of time for the fans, good luck to him.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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poodlepoo wrote:yep
comes over as a very decent guy
He does, although ultimatly perhaps not quite World level. In retrospect it might have suited him better to look at European or even British level after that defeat by Haye.

Good luck to him against Lebedev. I'd have a handsome bet on Enzo to win this one on points, if I could find any odds!
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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I feel a bit sorry for Enzo in that he has been carefully steered towards world class and we were led to believe he was world class, when in reality he has European title level ability. Whenever he failed against a fellow fringe contender in Afolabi then he was ridiculed and therefore this fight with Lebedev may well be a 50/50 affair.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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steve689 wrote:Whenever he failed against a fellow fringe contender in Afolabi then he was ridiculed .
He was winning the fight very comfortably, he just ran out of steam! Clearly at that stage a 12 rounder was too much for him.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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whicker wrote:
steve689 wrote:Whenever he failed against a fellow fringe contender in Afolabi then he was ridiculed .
He was winning the fight very comfortably, he just ran out of steam! Clearly at that stage a 12 rounder was too much for him.
I wouldn't say he was winning the fight very comfortably at all.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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lirva wrote: I wouldn't say he was winning the fight very comfortably at all.
No?

He was winning comfortably on points, pretty much 7 rounds to 1. He got very very tired, but until that disasterous 9th round he had seemed well in control, the only issue being his failure to stop Afolabi, and a bit of trouble in the 3rd.

"In play" Odds for an Afolabi win going into round 9 were about 40-1 (apparantly).
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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I can't really remember whether Enzo was coasting or what but I do recall Ola shaking him up long before the stoppage. I'm looking forward to the Lebedev fight to see what he has left to offer.
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Re: Enzo Maccarenelli V Denis Lebedev - 18th July 2009

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C'mon Lebedev.

Knock that wig right off.

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