World Title Trivia

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 03 Jul 2009, 20:37

Jack Dempsey and who?

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 03 Jul 2009, 20:53

Collins2000 wrote:Jack Dempsey and who?

Dempsey and Jack Root - opening night at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles on August 5, 1925. Root was the first "manager" (matchmaker and promoter) at Auditorium.

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 03 Jul 2009, 23:33

What world champion had a brother who fought Jack Dempsey the middleweight champion and refereed a title fight featuring Jack Dempsey the heavyweight champion?

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 03 Jul 2009, 23:40

Nice job Tom.
I look forward to your pictures Collins.
I dont think I have seen any of them before.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 04 Jul 2009, 00:43

raylawpc wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:Jack Dempsey and who?

Dempsey and Jack Root - opening night at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles on August 5, 1925. Root was the first "manager" (matchmaker and promoter) at Auditorium.

Great work, Ray!

jaclem2 · Post by **jaclem2** » 04 Jul 2009, 00:57

re:machen/valdez.....i spotted machen right away...i think his hair was the tip off....but that big full picture of nino stumped me....now that the answer came through i think...damn..i should have guessed that. i didn't even remember that they fought.

..these pictures are just great... seeing most for the first time...hope you can keep them coming...and my congrats to the guys who are identifiying them!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 04 Jul 2009, 03:09

raylawpc wrote:What world champion had a brother who fought Jack Dempsey the middleweight champion and refereed a title fight featuring Jack Dempsey the heavyweight champion?

Mike Gibbons?

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 04 Jul 2009, 09:12

bennie wrote:
raylawpc wrote:What world champion had a brother who fought Jack Dempsey the middleweight champion and refereed a title fight featuring Jack Dempsey the heavyweight champion?
Mike Gibbons?

Nope.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 04 Jul 2009, 10:21

Tom, Im scratching my head over this one for half an hour.
Mike Donavan?

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 04 Jul 2009, 15:53

Expug wrote:Tom, Im scratching my head over this one for half an hour.
Mike Donavan?

No.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 04 Jul 2009, 16:59

raylawpc wrote:What world champion had a brother who fought Jack Dempsey the middleweight champion and refereed a title fight featuring Jack Dempsey the heavyweight champion?

Jimmy Barry?

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 04 Jul 2009, 17:59

One of the 3 men in this photo is The Brown Bomber.

The other two?

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 04 Jul 2009, 18:47

Collins2000 wrote:
raylawpc wrote:What world champion had a brother who fought Jack Dempsey the middleweight champion and refereed a title fight featuring Jack Dempsey the heavyweight champion?
Jimmy Barry?

Yes. Brother Bill fought the Nonpariel and brother Dave was the referee who administered the long count to Dempsey in 1927.

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 04 Jul 2009, 18:57

Collins2000 wrote:

One of the 3 men in this photo is The Brown Bomber.

The other two?

Buddy Baer (opponent) and Frank Fullam (referee) in 1942, I believe.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 04 Jul 2009, 19:03

raylawpc wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:
One of the 3 men in this photo is The Brown Bomber.

The other two?
Buddy Baer (opponent) and Frank Fullam (referee) in 1942, I believe.

Correct!

We aren't doing too badly, Ray, for two blokes who according to BRR know fekk all about boxing...

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 04 Jul 2009, 23:35

Q: Who was Tex Rickard's original choice to work Dempsey-Tunney II as referee?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 05 Jul 2009, 10:24

Benny Leonard?

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 05 Jul 2009, 13:34

bennie wrote:Benny Leonard?

No.

jaclem2 · Post by **jaclem2** » 05 Jul 2009, 14:25

.....just a wild guess...but it may have been rickard himself...

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 05 Jul 2009, 18:51

jaclem2 wrote:.....just a wild guess...but it may have been rickard himself...

No.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 05 Jul 2009, 21:17

I remember reading that referee Dave Miller was replaced last minute because of connections to Al Capone.
I dont know if he was Rickards choice.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 05 Jul 2009, 21:17

Not sure if he was Rickard's original choice, but Dave Miller was supposed to referee the bout.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 05 Jul 2009, 21:18

snap!

Both posted at 1:17am.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 05 Jul 2009, 21:35

Im gonna say you win Collins.
I had to go back into an old Dempsey book I had to see if I remembered right.
I wasnt really sure off the top of my head.

The timing was uncanny though.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 05 Jul 2009, 21:46

Expug wrote:Im gonna say you win Collins.
I had to go back into an old Dempsey book I had to see if I remembered right.
I wasnt really sure off the top of my head.

The timing was uncanny though.

Nah, I had to google it.

I like looking at the old photos and reading contemporary accounts from the inter-war period but know little about it really.

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