USA vs Italia

[COACH J]

Italia national team

1 ALFONSO PINTO 48 kg
2 VINCENZO PICARDI 51 kg
3 VITTORIO JAHIN PARRINELLO 54 kg
4 ALESSIO DI SAVINO 57 kg
5 DOMENICO VALENTINO 60 kg
6 IGNAZIO CRIVELLO
7 RENATO DE DONATO
8 DARIO DONATO VANGELI 64 kg
9 RENATO DE DONATO
10 ALESSANDRO MARZIALI 69 kg
11 GIACOMO CORSALE
12 LUCA MELIS
13 CARMINE CIRILLO
14 LUCA PODDA 75 kg
15 GRIECO SALVATORE
16 ADRIANO SPERANDIO
17 ANDREA CIMICHELLA
18 IVANO DEL MONTE 81 kg
19 SIMONE FIORI
20 ALESSANDRO SINACORE
21 GIANLUCA ROSCIGLIONE
22 CLEMENTE RUSSO 91 kg
23 ROBERTO CAMMARELLE 91+ kg

[Dennis]

I have found out that the two teams may only compete once and it will be on the 12th in Voghera, Italy.

[Dennis]

The team landed in Italy on Sunday morning. Monday will be there first big day of training in Italy.

[Dennis]

The team will be training at the Italian Boxing Federation's training facilities in Assisi, Italy. It is similar to the USOC training facilities in Colorado Springs, CO.

[COACH J]

the training went good today just talked to Miguel's coach they will be boxing on sunday the 12th and come home that monday.

to all the coaches and famliy friends and supporter of the USA team they are doing good and are fine they sound happy to be there

[locoxelbox]

Which is the US line-up?

[Dennis]

In the red corner, you have Ronald "H-Bomb" Simms going up against the up and comer Patrick "Silky Smooth" Borkowski in the blue corner. Should be a good match-up.

Then in bout 2, we have Louie "New Mexico Kid" Burke vs. Don "Jersey" Givens. Wow, this could be a Fight of the Year candidate. There is a rematch clause in the contract so expect them to keep doing it sort of like Vasquez-Marquez, but this one might be better!!!

OK, all kidding aside that is the coaching and training staff, then there is Tom Virgets as Manager.

The boxers are the #1's except Javier Torres (#2) who replaces Mike Hunter at SHW.

[knockoutkingjay]

oh okay...all first place winners go to italy...so what about the 2nd place....how does that work??

[boxmel]

oh okay...all first place winners go to italy...so what about the 2nd place....how does that work??

Boxers in the top five of each weight class are given opportunities to compete in other dual meets. In some cases, if a #1 can't participate, he will be replaced by the #2.

[Dennis]

oh okay...all first place winners go to italy...so what about the 2nd place....how does that work??

Boxers in the top five of each weight class are given opportunities to compete in other dual meets. In some cases, if a #1 can't participate, he will be replaced by the #2.

Actually they consider the top 4 as top priority. A #2 has already moved up as Javier Torres replaced Hunter on this trip.

[Dennis]

Once again our team is young. I have listed approx ages as I don't have the boxers dates of birth. If I have approx 19 they could be turning 19 soon or just turned 20. The point is the team has mostly teenagers with Caferro and Gausha being the two oldest boxers on the team.
106 Miguel Cartagena is 16 or 17
112 Louie Byrd is 18
119 Jesus Magdaleno is 17
125 Kevin Rivers is 18
132 Duran Caferro, Jr. is 21
141 Frankie Gomez is 17
152 Errol Spence is 19
165 Terrell Gausha is approx 21
178 Robert Brant is approx 19
201 Jordan Shimmell is 20
201+ Javier Torres is approx 20

[boxmel]

Actually they consider the top 4 as top priority. A #2 has already moved up as Javier Torres replaced Hunter on this trip.

I said the top five becuase they have, in the past, been afforded opportunities. Do you know why Mike Hunter didn't go?

[Dennis]

Actually they consider the top 4 as top priority. A #2 has already moved up as Javier Torres replaced Hunter on this trip.

I said the top five becuase they have, in the past, been afforded opportunities. Do you know why Mike Hunter didn't go?

An injury from training. I don't think it is too serious so hopefully he can go to Italy for the World Championships. The rest may serve him well. He has international experience and facing Cammarelle at less than 100% is probably not a smart move.

[boxmel]

facing Cammarelle at less than 100% is probably not a smart move.

AMEN! 8)

[Kolya]

Once again our team is young. I have listed approx ages as I don't have the boxers dates of birth. If I have approx 19 they could be turning 19 soon or just turned 20. The point is the team has mostly teenagers with Caferro and Gausha being the two oldest boxers on the team.
106 Miguel Cartagena is 16 or 17
112 Louie Byrd is 18
119 Jesus Magdaleno is 17
125 Kevin Rivers is 18
132 Duran Caferro, Jr. is 21
141 Frankie Gomez is 17
152 Errol Spence is 19
165 Terrell Gausha is approx 21
178 Robert Brant is approx 19
201 Jordan Shimmell is 20
201+ Javier Torres is approx 20

Just for the record, Caferro is 20.

[knockoutkingjay]

so what you saying is each placeas in 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th have a different dual they compete in or what??for each place finisher as in like 1st is going to italy, so 2nd will go to another and den 3rd and 4th would have thier own dual or how does that work or is it between 2nd 3rd and 4th they pickk who is more deserving??idk can you please infor me if you know!!

[Dennis]

Once again our team is young. I have listed approx ages as I don't have the boxers dates of birth. If I have approx 19 they could be turning 19 soon or just turned 20. The point is the team has mostly teenagers with Caferro and Gausha being the two oldest boxers on the team.
106 Miguel Cartagena is 16 or 17
112 Louie Byrd is 18
119 Jesus Magdaleno is 17
125 Kevin Rivers is 18
132 Duran Caferro, Jr. is 21
141 Frankie Gomez is 17
152 Errol Spence is 19
165 Terrell Gausha is approx 21
178 Robert Brant is approx 19
201 Jordan Shimmell is 20
201+ Javier Torres is approx 20

Just for the record, Caferro is 20.

Turning 21 soon! This month or next.

[Dennis]

so what you saying is each placeas in 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th have a different dual they compete in or what??for each place finisher as in like 1st is going to italy, so 2nd will go to another and den 3rd and 4th would have thier own dual or how does that work or is it between 2nd 3rd and 4th they pickk who is more deserving??idk can you please infor me if you know!!

Nobody knows for sure right now. Yes, they try to send the #2's to some other tourney or dual, then #3's and possibly #4's. A #4 doesn't always get sent to a dual though, but they are getting to go to the training camps and get sparring with the #1, #2 and #3 boxers.

[knockoutkingjay]

oh okay.....but 4 sure 1st 2nd and 3rd have their own compettion to cmpete in..okay thanks for the information ....needed tht competely...one more thing do you kno or have the footage from the usa finals inn denver 125lbs and 132ls??

[Kolya]

Once again our team is young. I have listed approx ages as I don't have the boxers dates of birth. If I have approx 19 they could be turning 19 soon or just turned 20. The point is the team has mostly teenagers with Caferro and Gausha being the two oldest boxers on the team.
106 Miguel Cartagena is 16 or 17
112 Louie Byrd is 18
119 Jesus Magdaleno is 17
125 Kevin Rivers is 18
132 Duran Caferro, Jr. is 21
141 Frankie Gomez is 17
152 Errol Spence is 19
165 Terrell Gausha is approx 21
178 Robert Brant is approx 19
201 Jordan Shimmell is 20
201+ Javier Torres is approx 20

Just for the record, Caferro is 20.

Turning 21 soon! This month or next.

The begining of August.

[Dennis]

106 Miguel Cartagena, Philadelphia, PA; Personal coach-Javier Jarela; 5'4"; dob-7-5-92; 17 - Happy belated birthday!
112 Louie Byrd, Denver, CO; Personal coach-Jeff Byrd; 5'2"; dob: 9-19-90; 18
119 Jesus Magdaleno, Las Vegas, NV; Personal coaches-Pat Barry and Augie Sanchez; 5'4"; dob: 11-8-91; 17
125 Kevin Rivers, Landover, MD; Personal coach-Barry Hunter; 5'7"; dob: 9-13-90; 18
132 Duran Caferro, Jr., Helena, MT, Personal coach-Duran Caferro, Sr.; 20 (turns 21 in August)
141 Frankie Gomez, Los Angeles, CA; Personal coach-Ronnie Rivota; 5'8"; dob: 2-4-92; 17
152 Errol Spence, Dallas, TX; Personal coach-Gene Vivero; 5'9"; dob: 3-3-90; 19
165 Terrell Gausha, Cleveland, OH; Personal coach-Renard Safo; dob: 9-9-87; 21
178 Robert Brant, Oakdale, MN; Personal coach-Larry Goodman; dob: 10-2-90; 18
201 Jordan Shimmell, Hudsonville (Grand Rapids metro area), MI; Personal coach-Dennis Shimmell, Jr. and Randy Sutter; 6'3"; dob: 10-10-88; 20
201+ Javier Torres, Medford, OR (now Los Angeles, CA); Personal coach-?; 6'3"; dob-5-14-88; 21

This is the team and I thought I would give the fans some info since USA Boxing doesn't have the staff to do it.

[boxmel]

I think Javier Torres is training at the Commerce BC with Robert Luna (Molina brothers).

[Dennis]

Here are the results:

106 Miguel Cartagena won. The Italian team did not have a 48kg boxer so Miguel competed against a young Italian boxer from the junior ranks, Alessandro Cubeddu. It is still OK since Miguel just turned 17 himself.
112 Louie Byrd lost his bout to Vincenzo Picardi, the 2008 Olympic Bronze medalist
119 Jesus Magdaleno defeated Vittorio Parrinello
125 Kevin Rivers boxed to a draw against Alessio Di Savino
132 Duran Caferro, Jr. lost to Domenico Valentino
141 Frankie Gomez defeated Renato Di Donato
152 Errol Spence lost a close bout to Alessandro Marziali
165 Terrell Gausha lost to Luca Podda
178 Robert Brant lost to Simone Fiori
201 Jordan Shimmell lost a close bout to Clemente Russo, the 2008 Olympic Silver medalist
201+ Javier Torres lost to Roberto Cammarelle, the 2008 Olympic Gold medalist

[Jma05]

what was the score between all the bouts

[Dennis]

They used paper scoring and they didn't know the actual scores. I was told which bouts were close. I think it was a good learning experience for the U.S. team. I know it was for my son. He was able to spar with two Olympic medalists and then compete against one of them. He didn't get hit much, he came out of the ring unscathed, he knows he can compete with the best in the world and with a little more work he can win at that level.