Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym v Bernard Dunne

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gemmell wrote:
BARNEYKX wrote:Dunne should have went for Munroe,he sure is up against it with Poonsawat i cannot se dunne winning this one,but good luck to him anyway
yes he was offered £300,000 by maloney for the munroe fight..but i knw for a fact dunne would gte outboxed by rendall munroe...hmmmm this pooonsawat i havn't seen much of every1 keeps saying he is good but look at his RECORD he has fought all BUMS apart from a decent CORDOBA who he beat split decision..howeveer bernard dunne isn't very good to be honest his last fight was spectacular..i think cordoba was slightly overated going into the fight..but dune showed heart and stamina..well done to the lad but i cant see him holding onto the belt for much longer..we;; if you look at his fight with kiko martinez then you will see how average dunne is in my view! munroe schooled martinez twice

No sorry Gemmell you are wrong on so many counts here. Please at least try to post something even similar to the facts. Maloney offered £200,000 not £300,00 for Dunne to fight Munroe, Maloney wanted to promote the fight which he knew would not go down well with Peters. Dunne was going to take the fight with Munroe but then the WBA enforced the mandatory which is Poonsawat. Dunne knew that Munroe was the easiest fight out there, how you think that Munroe would outbox Dunne is beyond me! It is laughable how Munroe's fans aka his cousins, try to say that Cordoba was overrated and Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym only fights bums! :roll: Just for one second take your head out of Munroe's ass and face reality. Or no better still, keep believing your delusional crap about how he woud outbox Dunne and your implications that he is better than Cordoba and Kratingdaenggym, it will be all the more funny when he eventually steps up and you see how average a boxer he is.
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Munroe has just taken Michael Hunter's place in my mind. Decent at euro level but likely to get beaten if he extends past that. Hunter when he made the step up from Euro level got destroyed by Molitor. I reckon Munroe would meet a similar result.
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Badass wrote:
gemmell wrote:
BARNEYKX wrote:Dunne should have went for Munroe,he sure is up against it with Poonsawat i cannot se dunne winning this one,but good luck to him anyway
yes he was offered £300,000 by maloney for the munroe fight..but i knw for a fact dunne would gte outboxed by rendall munroe...hmmmm this pooonsawat i havn't seen much of every1 keeps saying he is good but look at his RECORD he has fought all BUMS apart from a decent CORDOBA who he beat split decision..howeveer bernard dunne isn't very good to be honest his last fight was spectacular..i think cordoba was slightly overated going into the fight..but dune showed heart and stamina..well done to the lad but i cant see him holding onto the belt for much longer..we;; if you look at his fight with kiko martinez then you will see how average dunne is in my view! munroe schooled martinez twice

No sorry Gemmell you are wrong on so many counts here. Please at least try to post something even similar to the facts. Maloney offered £200,000 not £300,00 for Dunne to fight Munroe, Maloney wanted to promote the fight which he knew would not go down well with Peters. Dunne was going to take the fight with Munroe but then the WBA enforced the mandatory which is Poonsawat. Dunne knew that Munroe was the easiest fight out there, how you think that Munroe would outbox Dunne is beyond me! It is laughable how Munroe's fans aka his cousins, try to say that Cordoba was overrated and Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym only fights bums! :roll: Just for one second take your head out of Munroe's ass and face reality. Or no better still, keep believing your delusional crap about how he woud outbox Dunne and your implications that he is better than Cordoba and Kratingdaenggym, it will be all the more funny when he eventually steps up and you see how average a boxer he is.
+1

Poonsawat is a much tougher fight then Munroe.
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+1

Poonsawat is a much tougher fight then Munroe
definitely. i think poonsawat would smash munroe fairly easily, but dunne is a much more even fight.
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Thais don't travel particularly well, in my opinion. Stick it on outdoors in Dublin in October. Even Ali struggled outdoors in Dublin.
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Dunne fights Kratingdaenggym in the O2 Dublin on the 26th September. Come on the Dunner!!!!!!
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Dunne will get exposed again in this fight.
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Cannibal wrote:Of course he's better than Kiko, but I think Dunne is too, although he's unlikely to be having a rematch with him anytime soon to prove it.

I'd need to see a full fight of him to judge. Going by the fight reports though, he seems pretty good.

Peters has done well winning the rights, as Poonsawat has only fought once outside of Thailand and that was the fight he lost. From what I can gather he carries decent power and can pressure fight as well as box, so Dunne will have a tough night on his hands.

On the Cordoba fight report it said that Cordoba was outboxing him in the early rounds and beating him to the punch with his speed but Poonsawat gradually wore him down with body shots to close the gap and took over. Cordoba always seems to slow down late in fights though.

I'm reserving judgement until I can see some proper footage of the guy.
I was at the fight and that's a fair assessment. Poonsawat is relentless and can bang a bit. It will be a tough fight for both of them but I'm leaning towards Poonsawat.

These two should have been making alot more for this fight...but someone got involved who shouldn't have and fouled the mess for both of them.
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scottmallon wrote:
Cannibal wrote:Of course he's better than Kiko, but I think Dunne is too, although he's unlikely to be having a rematch with him anytime soon to prove it.

I'd need to see a full fight of him to judge. Going by the fight reports though, he seems pretty good.

Peters has done well winning the rights, as Poonsawat has only fought once outside of Thailand and that was the fight he lost. From what I can gather he carries decent power and can pressure fight as well as box, so Dunne will have a tough night on his hands.

On the Cordoba fight report it said that Cordoba was outboxing him in the early rounds and beating him to the punch with his speed but Poonsawat gradually wore him down with body shots to close the gap and took over. Cordoba always seems to slow down late in fights though.

I'm reserving judgement until I can see some proper footage of the guy.
I was at the fight and that's a fair assessment. Poonsawat is relentless and can bang a bit. It will be a tough fight for both of them but I'm leaning towards Poonsawat.

These two should have been making alot more for this fight...but someone got involved who shouldn't have and fouled the mess for both of them.
Magee?
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yes and his sidekick
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Steve89 wrote:Munroe would demolish both of these clowns. Why don't Poonswat fight Munroe eh?
bcoz munroe himself is a clown. he shud stick 2 pickn up d bins.
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You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
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lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Unlike your unbiased posts? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Badass wrote:
lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Unlike your unbiased posts? :roll: :roll: :roll:
In fairness I've been on this forum for the last 6 years, I have thousands of posts on this forum. You have 29 posts and all are pro-irish.
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lirva wrote:
Badass wrote:
lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Unlike your unbiased posts? :roll: :roll: :roll:
In fairness I've been on this forum for the last 6 years, I have thousands of posts on this forum. You have 29 posts and all are pro-irish.
In fairness you still have a very biased view of Dunne no matter how many years you have been posting. So what if my posts are pro-Irish? The Irish boxing scene is far and away the most exciting at the moment and I am Irish so it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why my posts are pro Irish. :roll: You are in no position to call anyone biased with regards to Dunne, your previous posts on him prove this.
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lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Poonsawat has an excellent chin and is a pit bull. He's improved quite a bit in his last few fights and is a pressure fighter who will make Dunne work the entire bout. You never know what can happen in boxing but I'm leaning towards Poonsawat via decision or late round stoppage.
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scottmallon wrote:
lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Poonsawat has an excellent chin and is a pit bull. He's improved quite a bit in his last few fights and is a pressure fighter who will make Dunne work the entire bout. You never know what can happen in boxing but I'm leaning towards Poonsawat via decision or late round stoppage.
Is this him in the white?

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What happened in his loss to sidorenko? I see he lost 120-108 (the german judge in germany) and 112-116, 113-115 on the other cards. Was it a fair decision? Sidorenko is much more durable than Dunne anyway, so would have been able to take the shots better.
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Badass wrote:
In fairness you still have a very biased view of Dunne no matter how many years you have been posting. So what if my posts are pro-Irish? The Irish boxing scene is far and away the most exciting at the moment and I am Irish so it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why my posts are pro Irish. :roll: You are in no position to call anyone biased with regards to Dunne, your previous posts on him prove this.
I'm not biased against Dunne at all. Just don't think he is as good as you do, that's all.
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scottmallon wrote:
lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Poonsawat has an excellent chin and is a pit bull. He's improved quite a bit in his last few fights and is a pressure fighter who will make Dunne work the entire bout. You never know what can happen in boxing but I'm leaning towards Poonsawat via decision or late round stoppage.
I'm not doubting Poonsawat's ability but his record is decieving, I was reading an article about him a while back which pointed out that he has fought a lot of boxers with losing records or just plain bad records and a lot of the guys he ko'd in the early part of his career had been stopped often and early before. It took him 10 rounds to put away a guy that Yersin Jailauov (one of Dunne's feather fisted opponents) stopped in 4 rounds a few months previously. His recent wins have been more impressive but I think Dunne's fast hands and superior boxing skill along with his size and height advantage will win this for him, if he keeps a tight defense throughout the fight. :box:
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Badass wrote:It took him 10 rounds to put away a guy that Yersin Jailauov (one of Dunne's feather fisted opponents) stopped in 4 rounds a few months previously.
Did you see those fights or just look the results up on boxrec?
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Badass wrote:
scottmallon wrote:
lirva wrote:You have to love these guys with one post coming onto the forum spouting biased shite.

As for the fight, from what I have seen of Poon he looks like he'll have too much for Dunne. Can anyone tell me if Poon has a solid chin? Has he ever been down in a fight. He seems to have good power. Fair play to Dunne for taking the fight, we all know what would happen if he was to challenge one of the top guys in the division such as JM Lopez (Lopez might actually kill him), so this is a decent fight to make. I think Cordoba was highly overrated, had terrible punching technique and a poor chin (got dropped face first on a youtube clip I saw before the fight, which led me to put a few quid on Dunne KO at 14/1), so theres a good chance that this Poon guy will do Dunne.
Poonsawat has an excellent chin and is a pit bull. He's improved quite a bit in his last few fights and is a pressure fighter who will make Dunne work the entire bout. You never know what can happen in boxing but I'm leaning towards Poonsawat via decision or late round stoppage.
I'm not doubting Poonsawat's ability but his record is decieving, I was reading an article about him a while back which pointed out that he has fought a lot of boxers with losing records or just plain bad records and a lot of the guys he ko'd in the early part of his career had been stopped often and early before. It took him 10 rounds to put away a guy that Yersin Jailauov (one of Dunne's feather fisted opponents) stopped in 4 rounds a few months previously. His recent wins have been more impressive but I think Dunne's fast hands and superior boxing skill along with his size and height advantage will win this for him, if he keeps a tight defense throughout the fight. :box:
Many fighters have records that are padded however in Poonsawat's case, he's alot less padded than most Thais and has fought some decent opposition. He hasn't fought Jailauov though according to BoxRec.

It's an interesting match-up and I've already outlined a strategy for Galaxy Promotions, Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym's promoter, that I think will help him win. Whether or not he can pull it off is up to him but he's not going to go in and get starched in one or two rounds like a lot of Thais, I'm sure of that.
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Scott, I was saying that Poonsawat and Jailauov have an opponent in common, Takhir Ibragimov, who Jailauov stopped in 4 rounds and Poonsawat ko'd in the 10th, it just caught my eye when looking at Poonsawats record because Dunne fought Jailauov in his 1st EBU title defense so I know he is far from a big puncher. I don't think for a second that Kratingdaenggym will get starched in 1 or 2 rounds, it will be a tough fight for both boxers.
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lirva wrote:
Badass wrote:It took him 10 rounds to put away a guy that Yersin Jailauov (one of Dunne's feather fisted opponents) stopped in 4 rounds a few months previously.
Did you see those fights or just look the results up on boxrec?
I saw Dunne V Jailauov so I know Jailauov is not a big puncher, I obviously didn't see the two other fights which were probably not even televised, so yes I looked it up on Boxrec...that's what it's there for :roll:
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Badass wrote:
lirva wrote:
Badass wrote:It took him 10 rounds to put away a guy that Yersin Jailauov (one of Dunne's feather fisted opponents) stopped in 4 rounds a few months previously.
Did you see those fights or just look the results up on boxrec?
I saw Dunne V Jailauov so I know Jailauov is not a big puncher, I obviously didn't see the two other fights which were probably not even televised, so yes I looked it up on Boxrec...that's what it's there for :roll:
My point is, the boxrec results can sometimes be misleading. I often have debated with people on message boards who threw around results of fights but didn't know what happened in the fights and were talking shite most of the time. Not saying that is happening here but if you are drawing conclusions purely from results of boxing matches, be a bit wary. It could have been bad refereeing, a clash of styles, poonsawat could have had an injury, could have been cut early etc.

It's misleading to look at records purely. In years to come there will be posters on message boards claiming Sven Ottke outboxed Robin Reid for instance. They won't have seen the fight, just the result on boxrec. We all know that fight was a disgrace. I've only seen a few rounds of poonsawat and read a few articles here and there. He looks like a decent fighter to me, seems to punch with power and applies good pressure with good punch selection.

I can only go by what I see and visually he is better than Dunne and should beat him. However I haven't seen Poonsawat hurt yet or down so I am trying to find out how solid he is in that department. Seems like he is pretty solid according to Scott.
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