Ali-Parkinson on UKGold2 now!!

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 26 Sep 2004, 18:04

They are looping the classic interview for a few hours, just been watching it.

Anybody who can watch this and NOT be captivated by Ali is beyond me...

DK2112 · Post by **DK2112** » 26 Sep 2004, 18:20

Cheers mate, didn't know this was on, I'm watching it now. My god, Ali was just ripping shreds off Parkinson, can't wait for the rest of this!

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 26 Sep 2004, 21:36

You can really notice the difference in his speech after the holmes fight.

Great interviews.

Nice to see Brian Clough asking Ali a question too.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 27 Sep 2004, 12:22

enjoyed what i saw...Freddie Star was pretty funny also...what a nutbar!

anyone seen the interview Star did with Ali...when he tells him that story...and scares the shit out of him.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 27 Sep 2004, 12:26

I like your show,
and admire your style.

But your pays so cheap,
Don't call for a while.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 27 Sep 2004, 12:27

i like the bit where parkison basically called joe bugner a bum and ali defended him.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 27 Sep 2004, 12:37

REAL_DEAL wrote:i like the bit where parkison basically called joe bugner a bum and ali defended him.

I assume the interview was filmed a few months after the Bugner- Cooper fight, as Ali said he would soon be fighting Buster Mathis which was in late 1971.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 27 Sep 2004, 13:03

REAL_DEAL wrote:i like the bit where parkison basically called joe bugner a bum and ali defended him.

Ali had a real soft spot for Joe Bugner. When Ali was exiled, they used to spar together in the States and the Brit always insisted Ali be paid.
In the book, Muhammad Ali's Greatest Fight by Howard Bingham and Max Wallace, it was revealed Ali was so skint he tried to sell a portable radio to Bugner, saying "It's just what you need, Joe!"
Parky made a big mistake in challenging Ali's religious beliefs on the show. He later admitted he deserved the tirade that followed. Ali's conversion to Islam was, of course, no passing phase.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27 Sep 2004, 14:14

Wasn't there a story Parkinson told about afterwards at one of the interviews his dad asked him why he hadn't knocked him out? Would've been funny if he had.

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 28 Sep 2004, 03:45

Bugner was a talented fighter and Ali recognised that...

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 28 Sep 2004, 08:06

Hardhitters11 wrote:Bugner was a talented fighter and Ali recognised that...

In the context of 70's heavyweights, Bugner wasn't talented. His main asset was durability. He had the durability to stay upright against the leading heavies of the day, but, sadly, rarely came to win.
Ali just liked Bugner. There were very few white heavies Ali didn't like (he liked Quarry, too). It was his black rivals he despised.

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 28 Sep 2004, 08:34

I have always been a bit of a closet Bugner fan and felt we never saw what he was capable of.

He beat the likes of London and Cooper and faired well enough against Ali and Frazier so he definately had talent...

Even in his later days when he was well past it he did ok against some younger heavyweights and even beat a few.

HH

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 28 Sep 2004, 09:07

First fight I remember watching as a kid was Bruno v Bugner

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 28 Sep 2004, 12:14

Guest wrote:Wasn't there a story Parkinson told about afterwards at one of the interviews his dad asked him why he hadn't knocked him out? Would've been funny if he had.

I think that was after the second interview in 1974.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 28 Sep 2004, 13:51

bennie wrote:Ali had a real soft spot for Joe Bugner. When Ali was exiled, they used to spar together in the States and the Brit always insisted Ali be paid.

When Ali fought Al 'Blue' Lewis in Ireland Bugner was one of Ali's sparring partners as was John Conteh.

revporl · Post by **revporl** » 29 Sep 2004, 05:03

Given the obvious deterioration in Ali in the third interview, it's amazing he was allowed to fight Berbick later that year. You really can't tell what he's saying a lot of the time.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 29 Sep 2004, 14:49

revporl wrote:Given the obvious deterioration in Ali in the third interview, it's amazing he was allowed to fight Berbick later that year. You really can't tell what he's saying a lot of the time.

Anyone who made money out of the Berbick V Ali fight should be ashamed of themselves.