what happened to matthew thirlwall???

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 27 Sep 2004, 15:45

i jus noticed he got beat by jason collins - a man who he stopped prevoiusly in only his 4th fight. what the hell?? everyone was raving about thirlwall after his aba sucess - where did it all go wrong?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 27 Sep 2004, 18:57

I think he lost to Gary Beardsley as well but avenged the loss, he was beaten by Collins on the Froch-Hague undercard...BBC showed a couple of the rounds. It was a slug fest but most thought Thirlwall had edged it, even if he had have won there is no way he should be having life and death struggles with guys like Collins if he has any intent to get to British level or beyond...i think he was due to fight Andrew Facey but that fight is probably off now.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 28 Sep 2004, 07:51

He lost to Jason Collins and I've only just stopped laughing. Christ, imagine what Facey would have done to him - or even Peter Jackson, originally lined up to face Thirlwall.
Collins showed if you get in Thirlwall's face, it's game over.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 28 Sep 2004, 08:25

He's struggling somewhat. I have a suspicion he might be caught between styles.

I'm not convinced McCracken is Thirlwall's best bet for a trainer simply because of Matthews attacking style seems to be being comprimised.

I'd get Jimmy Tibbs or even Alan Smith on the case.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 28 Sep 2004, 08:34

i remember he fought a repton kid in the london ABA finals.... the guy went toe to toe with him and generally got a hiding, but he hurt Thirwall a few times ......

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 28 Sep 2004, 09:19

Probably Daniel Cadman. I was there for that one too. Good fight, Thirlwall had him down on two occasions if I remember correctly and won convincingly for my money.

theguru · Post by **theguru** » 28 Sep 2004, 16:34

Forget Thirwell just a case of wont train properly,Froch has improved no end under McCrackens tuition.

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 28 Sep 2004, 16:45

knockout wrote:i remember he fought a repton kid in the london ABA finals.... the guy went toe to toe with him and generally got a hiding, but he hurt Thirwall a few times ......

If I remember correctly, the only boxer that Thirlwall didn't stop on the way to his senior ABA title was top drawer Bromley fighter, Sam Webb.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 08 Nov 2004, 14:40

Thirlwall's been matched with Michael Monaghan reportedly.

Could be a make or break one for Matthew.

What's the predictions for this one?

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 08 Nov 2004, 21:42

monaghan should win.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Nov 2004, 09:50

Riddick Blowe wrote:monaghan should win.

he normally does, just doesnt get his hand lifted

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 10 Nov 2004, 07:32

To be fair, both of Thirwall's losses have questionable.