Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym v Bernard Dunne

[berto89!]

im surprised dunne is strong favourite. would fancy poonsawat for late ko or ud. i hope im wrong tho hope dunne can pull it off.

[Cannibal]

From what I've seen, he's dangerous but predictable. You know how he is going to come at you, but it is up to you to stop him.

I think if Dunne can make him miss, then he'll get tired late on because he really loads up those punches, and if Dunne makes him miss consistently he could sap his energy.

Stick and move, make him miss = Dunne win.

Stand and trade = Early Poonsawat KO win.

[Deno1986]

Poonsawat is a quicker, better form of Kiko Martinez. He is small at 5'3 so Dunne will have that advantage but has to keep the distance because with Poonsawats power and Dunnes chin he will be knocked out if he gets too close to Poonsawat. Poonsawat has only fought once outside Thailand losing convincingly to Wlad Sidorenko in Germany who many people including myself believe he bet Cordoba twice. He has a durable chin so cant see Dunne winning by knockout.

Poonsawat is ranked as the 4th best Super Bantanweight by the Ring and he has an impressive record but there is alot of nobodys on that record.

To be honest I think Dunne will win the first few rounds but I can see a stoppage victory[6th-8th round] for the Thai boxer. I dont believe Dunne has the discipline to not get involved in a brawl at some stage which will knacker him or knock him out but I hope i am proved wrong. I also think the odds on Dunne are ridiculous, I know he is the champion but Boylesports obviously have not done any research!

Kratindaenggym actually means Red Bull Gym..He is sponsored by the Red Bull company and was made changed his name for a large sum of money..Little pub fact for ya

Come on Bernard, prove me wrong

[lowersmiths]

poonsawat has improved a lot since the cordoba win.
his movement is much better - he was outboxing former wba super-bantam champ somsak sithchatchawal off the back foot at times despite a significant reach disadvantage.

but his biggest asset is his strength. he will be as strong in the last round as the first and there is no chance of dunne knocking him out, doubt he can even hurt him.

poonsawat will push dunne to the ropes (or trap him corners if he tries running and jabbing) and hook away to the body with the occassional uppercut. he will grind dunne down, and break his heart around the eighth when dunne realises the kid just won't stop.

put your house on poonsawat winning this fight if the odds are good.

[slapbangwhallop]

Bookmakers know there will be heavy money put on Dunne that's why he 8/13. The more i see of Poonsawat the more i fear. He's lightning quick. Dunne better keep that chin well tucked away. Correct Odds ( fair odds) would be around evens for both fighters.

I agree - I would say that it is a 50/50 fight possibly 55/45 in Poonsawats favour because he has fought he higher level of opposition and then temper that with Dunne's home advantage.

The reason Dunne is favourite is because thats a Irish bookies odds and the weight of money laid will be significantly favour of Dunne and they will therefore shorten the odds. The value bet is Poonsawat.

[steve689]

I'm starting to fancy Poonsawat for this one. Can Dunne drag himself through the trenches again when this manic Thai cranks ups the pressure? Time will tell.

[hitman09]

Okay, I propose a Gaelic language Boxing forum here on Boxrec, similar to the Boxeo Mundial Latino forum.

Who's with me?!

Mise.

Mise freisin. Ach ceapaim nach bhfuil mo gaeilge sách maith.

[opticald]

The more I think about the fight, the more I see Dunne getting walloped into submission. Poonie will keep coming and I doubt Dunne has the power to deter him. And he looks like the sort of man who enjoys finishing his opponent.

[slapbangwhallop]

I'm starting to fancy Poonsawat for this one. Can Dunne drag himself through the trenches again when this manic Thai cranks ups the pressure? Time will tell.

In an attempt to play his part in tidying up the division and the mess that is the WBA’s super bantamweight title triangle, Bernard Dunne (28(15)-1(1)-0) invites a nightmare into his house when he faces Thai powerhouse and WBA interim champion Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (38(27)-1(0)-0) to battle it out for Dunne’s first defence of his WBA regular super bantamweight title at the O2 Arena in Dublin, Ireland on the 26th of September.

Unless they’ve been travelling around the world on a J1 visa trekking through Belize, Machu Picchu and Laos then there is hardly an Irishman on the planet that could have failed to notice the rise of Bernard Dunne, who has almost singlehandedly revived professional boxing in Ireland. Despite the popularity of John Duddy amongst the immigrant diaspora in the US, no professional boxer has captured the Irish publics imagination like Dunne since Steve Collins filled the Dublin’s O2 (then “The Point”), Cork’s Pairc Ui Chaoimh, Manchester’s Nynex Arena and most famously Millstreet’s Green Glens Arena during the mid 1990’s.

Of course Collins, who’s career path draws parallels with Dunne’s, had the aid of high profile British fighters such as the flamboyant Chris Eubank and destructive Nigel Benn to ensure that enough media hype and interest was generated to power all the lights in Birmingham for a year. Sadly for Dunne he has no such caricatured figures to be pitted against, but what he does have is the technical boxing skills of any top Cuban amateur, an endearing cheeky chappy persona, manager Brian Peters, and until recently a booming Celtic Tiger economy to make up for the lack of household names in the division – Irish households that is. But, if Bernard Dunne has single-handedly revived professional boxing in Ireland, then it is Brian Peters, the County Meath farmer, publican, and entrepreneur has provided the bricks and mortar, the timber and the nails, the plasterboard and silicone mastic (need I go on?) for this particular development.

Dunne turned professional in December 2001 in the sweaty cut throat surroundings of the LA boxing scene and Freddie Roach’s Wild Card Gym but Dunne did not confine himself to local fights in California and travelled throughout the states to Connecticut, Oklahoma, Nevada, West Virginia, New Mexico and Arizona garnering nationwide TV coverage on SRL promoted ESPN2 cards, which undoubtedly boosted the American boxing publics awareness of this seemingly frail and anaemic yet marauding Irishman.

However, in 2005 with Sugar Ray Leonard’s attentions focused on The Contender TV series and the pangs of homesickness and mammies cooking rumbling in the Dynamo’s belly, Brian Peters brought the matured (14(9) - 0) fighter back home to Dublin to set sail of a voyage that would bring fame, fortune and glory to both. Peters surrounded Dunne with a close-knit team, stalwart trainer Harry Hawkins at the Holy Trinity Gym now trained the Neilstownman and later fitness and conditioning guru Mick McGurn was brought in to answer lingering question marks which dogged Dunne’s ability to cope with the age old conundrum of making weight and maintaining power.

this is the start of my article on the fight at B o x i n g S c e n e.

http://www.boxing scene .com/?m=show&id=21913

[tucker22]

hello new here on the forum , just wanted peoples views on poonsawat kratingdeanggym, on september the 26th he will be fighting dublins bernard dunne at the O2 arena for the wba super bantamweight title. looking forward to hearing your views.

[slapbangwhallop]

[TerribleTerry]

Check out the 8 page thread on the fight further down this page mate - loads of views and thoughts on the fight. The consensus seems to be that it is a very tough fight for the Dublin native..

[slapbangwhallop]

Check out the 8 page thread on the fight further down this page mate - loads of views and thoughts on the fight. The consensus seems to be that it is a very tough fight for the Dublin native..

you gone mental Tel? This is the "8 page thread".

[jammidodger]

Check out the 8 page thread on the fight further down this page mate - loads of views and thoughts on the fight. The consensus seems to be that it is a very tough fight for the Dublin native..

you gone mental Tel? This is the "8 page thread".

its just been merged dude!! 8)

[tucker22]

this will be a close one, the bull against the matador so to speak, poonsawat like a miniature mike tyson, small but very strong looking, ex muay thai fighter, with a punishing right hand, a real good pressure fighter who will stay in dunnes face all night, and by watching him he seems like he can take some shots, dunne just really needs to pick his shots perfect, keep on moving and stick too his usual plan, box and dont get involved, dunne i think will have the speed advantage but power has to go to poonsawat, dunnes gotta stay strong for 12 rounds and not let this guy guy inside to often and ware him down

[steve689]

Just back from the Holy Trinity where Dunne did a media workout this afternoon. He seemed relaxed and confident with Harry Hawkins again thanking Kiko Martinez for knocking Bernard out and making the team go to the next level with regards to sparring and conditioning etc.

Olivier Lontchi is the chief sparring partner; nice guy, spoke very good English. I must speak good English too because one reporter asked him a question he did not understand and he called me over to translate

Have plenty of pics and stuff to turn into a report. Will stick it up when done.

[steve689]

He looks fine for weight Terry and did a bit of padwork and shadow boxing for the cameras. I didn't really explain the Kiko thing properly.

What they always say is that before the Kiko fight they were possibly getting complacent - for a start they took it like 7 or 8 weeks after he had met Walstad. After Kiko it gave them the kick up the arse needed and in came nutrition and conditioning experts like Mike McGurn and Alex Doherty. They started doing things "right" and without that setback if Dunne had gone on to a world title fight he would have probably been under prepared and lost (In fact, Brian Peters said that Steve Molitor was basically lined up at a point) - of course he got off the deck twice against Cordoba and was mentally and physically prepared to outlast his man.

The only concern I have after listening to Bernard's regime is that they could potentially burn him out. The training sounds intense and if he's having wars in the ring too and with all the crowd pressure etc it could all go tits up.

[steve689]

As you can see I'm no photographer but I like to have a go anyway. Don't know why they're so bloody big:

[slapbangwhallop]

old skool trainin - like it!

[brian13]

Israel Vazquez's manager Frank Espinoza confirmned negotiations for fight have taken place for fight with Dunne. At the time Vazquez was not medically fit to fight. If Dunne can come thro' the major test with Poonsawat this fight could take place early next year. Vazquez team want the fight at featherweight. Full article in Boxing scene.

Look who wrote the article

[slapbangwhallop]

Israel Vazquez's manager Frank Espinoza confirmned negotiations for fight have taken place for fight with Dunne. At the time Vazquez was not medically fit to fight. If Dunne can come thro' the major test with Poonsawat this fight could take place early next year. Vazquez team want the fight at featherweight. Full article in Boxing scene.

Look who wrote the article

there is no link. Who wrote it? If it a press release from Peters its probably Tomas Myler.

[slapbangwhallop]

[lowersmiths]

sligobhoy67 - it's the Bangkok Post, not the Bangkok Times and Thailand does not border Vietnam!

Plus Poonsawat would never spar with Pongsaklek....but he has with WBA fly champ Denkaosan

[steve689]

I think I saw in the Irish News it said that Poonsawat was from a place near the Vietnam border.

[slapbangwhallop]

I think I saw in the Irish News it said that Poonsawat was from a place near the Vietnam border.

well then they copied my article and the mistake cos its the near the Cambodian border - I did ask for the article to be edited but they never did.