Russ L wrote:I hate this sort of nonsense. Is anyone seriously saying that anyone boxing professionally lacks anything you could call "warrior mentality"?
Idiocy.
Have you ever bothered to look on Boxrec to see how many people have 1 fight and quit? To call this thread "Idiocy" is "Idiotic"
Russ L wrote:I hate this sort of nonsense. Is anyone seriously saying that anyone boxing professionally lacks anything you could call "warrior mentality"?
Idiocy.
Have you ever bothered to look on Boxrec to see how many people have 1 fight and quit? To call this thread "Idiocy" is "Idiotic"
Kindest regards
Stop being pedantic. There are different levels of a 'Warrior Mentality', there are Derrick Gainers and there are Arturo Gattis
Russ L wrote:I hate this sort of nonsense. Is anyone seriously saying that anyone boxing professionally lacks anything you could call "warrior mentality"?
Idiocy.
Have you ever bothered to look on Boxrec to see how many people have 1 fight and quit? To call this thread "Idiocy" is "Idiotic"
Kindest regards
Admittedly I expressed that more rudely than was necessary.
It takes a ridiculous level of heart and bollocks to do it even once though. I don't think having one fight and then deciding to "quit" (if we're putting speech marks around needlessly emotive language) is any evidence of a lack of that.
I will quote our esteemed correspondant from the first page of this thread:
teddy007 wrote:Every boxer no matter what level has a warrior mentality.
There are some fighters, of the thousands that have a pro licence - who I fear the first time they take a shot is actually in their first fight. Some, I'm sorry to say, are deluded enough to think it doesn't hurt that much!
I don't know if you have boxed amateur or trained amateur or been to a club - but I was training with loads of guys who came in thinking they would be the next Rocky - untill the first spar, and then the realisation would be in. Never to be seen again. There was no bravery involved - they just didn't know the levels of pain involved.
I had one "friend" who fancied himself as handy a little bit and always used to say to people "if Jonsey can do this boxing malarkly then no problem".... so I invited him to the gym, miles away from our mutual friends (I live in the sticks) and we sparred. I toyed with him, took it really easy.... well he had no experience and no idea - was a strong boy but pretty clueless about boxing technique. He had the nerve to tell our mutual friends that he chinned me and that "this boxing game is easy" - not surprisingly he never told this lie to me! So I said to our friends - "yeah, he chinned me okay - would like another spar with him with all you guys watching next time".... He never set foot in a boxing ring again.
Alarmingly, I think in some countries and some states in America - someone like that have been liceneced to fight pro - without any sparring experience what so ever.
Kevin Mitchell, showed it in his fight with Johanson and also by stepping up in weight, taking on and outboxing Khan destroyer Prescott. Think Mitchell has shown his mentality there
Russ L wrote:I hate this sort of nonsense. Is anyone seriously saying that anyone boxing professionally lacks anything you could call "warrior mentality"?
Idiocy.
Have you ever bothered to look on Boxrec to see how many people have 1 fight and quit? To call this thread "Idiocy" is "Idiotic"
Kindest regards
Admittedly I expressed that more rudely than was necessary.
It takes a ridiculous level of heart and bollocks to do it even once though. I don't think having one fight and then deciding to "quit" (if we're putting speech marks around needlessly emotive language) is any evidence of a lack of that.
I will quote our esteemed correspondant from the first page of this thread:
teddy007 wrote:Every boxer no matter what level has a warrior mentality.
Nice that you acknowledge that it was expressed rudely Honestly I have been around the game a very very long time. I have seen many fighters get in the ring to just give it a try or for the money. Does it take Balls to get in the ring =Yes. Does it take a warrior = No. This is just my opinion by the way.
rhino222 wrote:some fighters never seem to be in a dull fight, they continually lay it all on the line in a slugfest. its not a case of being a world champion, its just a case of a man having the guts and the big stones to battle it out against even-ish opposition and lay it all on the line for our enjoyment and for his own self esteem.
arturo gatti was a warrior
michael katsidis is a warrior
david walker was a warrior
sebastian hart was a warrior
any more? .... from any level?
Matthew saeed muhammad, Diego Corrales, Jorge Arce
exactly..... duran, great fighter, but tainted his hardness by quitting...
He is definetly still a warrior against Hagler he was fvcked after about 5 rounds but somehow kept going giving as good as he was getting only to lose a close decision. He is a warrior without doubt imo
Katsidis is definitely up there- he's in wars, always!
Michael Gomez- tough as nails. He went toe-to-toe with Khan and his fight with Arthur was a great scrap.
Oisín Fagan- he fought on with a broken leg VS Khan and battled through with a caved-in face (4 broken bones) against Mendosa in the US. Was awarded Irish fight of the Year, this year because of his war with Hyland. Never seen him in a bad fight. Bad fighters bring him down to their level and good fighters up to their level.
Marquez, Barerra, Morales- enough said!
Chambers, I like Haye a lot, but there's no way he deserves to be mentioned with some of the other names on here. He's been in a couple of snoozefests and has yet to prove he can come back from the brink when faced with adversity.
He's got a great attitude but he's far from a proven warrior at this stage.
i disagree remember the mormeck fight he was hurt and dropped early in the fight then came back to stop mormeck in his own backyard
I think warrior would be someone who always comes to fight and never calculates too much, or runs because the opponent is so big he can hurt...
Honestly I have been around the game a very very long time. I have seen many fighters get in the ring to just give it a try or for the money. Does it take Balls to get in the ring =Yes. Does it take a warrior = No. This is just my opinion by the way.
