2005 will be the year of German Heavyweight Boxing! 4 Champs

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 18 Feb 2005, 11:20

BTW I just ordered my ticket for Krasniqi-Whitaker. It´s in my hometown and a good seat costs 90 Euro. that´s o.k. for such a historical event

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 18 Feb 2005, 11:44

BubiScholz wrote:
mickeybeard wrote:Sam was born in Frankfurt to Turkish parents, wasn't he?
yes, but he was raised in Turkey. He has ben living in Germany now for 6 or 7 years.

Then he's at least as German as Lewis is English.

J · Post by J » 18 Feb 2005, 12:04

mickeybeard wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
mickeybeard wrote:Sam was born in Frankfurt to Turkish parents, wasn't he?
yes, but he was raised in Turkey. He has ben living in Germany now for 6 or 7 years.
Then he's at least as German as Lewis is English.

not quite bubi but if he was born in germany then every one should shut up about where he boxes out of. I agree he is german then.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 18 Feb 2005, 12:09

mickeybeard wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
mickeybeard wrote:Sam was born in Frankfurt to Turkish parents, wasn't he?
yes, but he was raised in Turkey. He has ben living in Germany now for 6 or 7 years.
Then he's at least as German as Lewis is English.

he could have a german passport but he hasn´t.

Urkal and Koc have one.

J · Post by J » 18 Feb 2005, 12:12

BubiScholz wrote:
mickeybeard wrote:
BubiScholz wrote: yes, but he was raised in Turkey. He has ben living in Germany now for 6 or 7 years.
Then he's at least as German as Lewis is English.
he could have a german passport but he hasn´t.

Urkal and Koc have one.

well then it becomes debatable as the fighter himself doesnt want to recognise his nationality, but as far as Im concerned born in germany is good enough.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 18 Feb 2005, 12:15

J wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
mickeybeard wrote: Then he's at least as German as Lewis is English.
he could have a german passport but he hasn´t.

Urkal and Koc have one.
well then it becomes debatable as the fighter himself doesnt want to recognise his nationality, but as far as Im concerned born in germany is good enough.

Urkal feels himself as a german guy, Sam identifies himself turkish. who cares? It´s up to everybody if you can chose between 2 or more nationalities.

J · Post by J » 18 Feb 2005, 12:16

i certainly dont care.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 18 Feb 2005, 12:18

not this again.

calzaghe fighting in ireland, does this mean its his second time fighting out side of britain.

i know. f off

:(

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 18 Feb 2005, 12:20

yup, 2005 will be the year without any american heavyweight champion. will this be the first time after the 2nd world war? who knows that? maybe Lennos Lewis an Herbie Hide?

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 18 Feb 2005, 14:41

Not bad...for once I can't be bothered to insult German boxing.

If the Daz doorstep challenge came to british boxing, I would swap allegedly for two German promoters.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:07

My T Sharp wrote:Not bad...for once I can't be bothered to insult German boxing.

If the Daz doorstep challenge came to british boxing, I would swap allegedly allegedly for two German promoters.

what are your problems with German boxing?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:10

BubiScholz wrote:yup, 2005 will be the year without any american heavyweight champion. will this be the first time after the 2nd world war? who knows that? maybe Lennos Lewis an Herbie Hide?

Don't mention the war Major.....

"I am Juergen...."

"Rauss, Rauss, Achtung, Achtung! Resistance is futile, you will all kneel before ze fazerland."

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:20

when lewis beat Holyfield for the WBC, IBF and WBA titles 13/11/99 there was 5 months while Vitali was WBO champ before losing to Byrd.

Wlad regained the WBO crown in 14/10/00 by which time WBA title belonged to Ruiz....

so there has been a time when technically there were no US champs.... but since Holyfield in about 1997, Lennox and then Vitali have been considered the true champs of boxing..... first time since Schmeling I guess.....when the "undisputed crown" didnt belong to an american.....

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:23

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:yup, 2005 will be the year without any american heavyweight champion. will this be the first time after the 2nd world war? who knows that? maybe Lennos Lewis an Herbie Hide?
Don't mention the war Major.....

"I am Juergen...."

"Rauss, Rauss, Achtung, Achtung! Resistance is futile, you will all kneel before ze fazerland."

everything o.k. with you?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:33

knockout wrote:when lewis beat Holyfield for the WBC, IBF and WBA titles 13/11/99 there was 5 months while Vitali was WBO champ before losing to Byrd.

Wlad regained the WBO crown in 14/10/00 by which time WBA title belonged to Ruiz....

so there has been a time when technically there were no US champs.... but since Holyfield in about 1997, Lennox and then Vitali have been considered the true champs of boxing..... first time since Schmeling I guess.....when the "undisputed crown" didnt belong to an american.....

thanks knockout, i thought Lewis and Hide reigned at the same time......

so maybe 2005 will be such a historic date for European boxing again

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:42

BubiScholz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:yup, 2005 will be the year without any american heavyweight champion. will this be the first time after the 2nd world war? who knows that? maybe Lennos Lewis an Herbie Hide?
Don't mention the war Major.....

"I am Juergen...."

"Rauss, Rauss, Achtung, Achtung! Resistance is futile, you will all kneel before ze fazerland."

everything o.k. with you?

It's a reference to a British comedy show.....

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:44

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote: Don't mention the war Major.....

"I am Juergen...."

"Rauss, Rauss, Achtung, Achtung! Resistance is futile, you will all kneel before ze fazerland."

everything o.k. with you?
It's a reference to a British comedy show.....

ah, so you like Germans?

I hope we meet in June for the Hatton-fight?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:49

Bubi, now don't be silly NOBODY LIKES GERMANS, NOT EVEN THE GERMANS.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 09:59

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Bubi, now don't be silly NOBODY LIKES GERMANS, NOT EVEN THE GERMANS.

J · Post by J » 23 Feb 2005, 10:05

haha you two jeez is it gonna be safe to put you two in the same arena or pub, let alone bloody minibus/car up there and back..

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 10:12

J wrote:haha you two jeez is it gonna be safe to put you two in the same arena or pub, let alone bloody minibus/car up there and back..

Hi J, everything o.k.? James just likes to make fun with germans.....

J · Post by J » 23 Feb 2005, 10:14

yeah im kool thanks bro , i know mate!
think ive known james long enough to know he likes a joke!!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Feb 2005, 10:15

Still haven't sorted my ticket for MEN yet.

J · Post by J » 23 Feb 2005, 10:17

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Still haven't sorted my ticket for MEN yet.

problem solved then

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Feb 2005, 10:21

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Still haven't sorted my ticket for MEN yet.

do you join us?