Haye Wins

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:47

well haye finally made a believer out of me, that was a clinical performance, and a display of brutal power punching.

Ruiz had no dog in him, but he just couldn't get anywhere near landing anything on haye.

nobby_nobbins · Post by **nobby_nobbins** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:52

Fantastic performance by Haye. Haye said he'd do it in 9 so did he carry Ruiz?

Small Axe · Post by **Small Axe** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:52

MachoMan09 wrote:Haye impressive. Ruiz brave. Good fight.

Boom!

Great performance!

MrBoxingUK2 · Post by **MrBoxingUK2** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:55

haye looked class in there tonight, showed good stamina,lightning speed,brutal punch power and his chin held up. i think vitali is way way too slow for haye and haye would beat him up,wlad vs haye will be 50/50 whoever lands first....HAYEMAKER

gazza8 · Post by **gazza8** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:57

Good performance Haye; simply to fast, to accurate and to quick for Ruiz

Big ups to Ruiz though, what a warrior!

Still dont rate Haye against the Klitchkos, just feel there jab and experience will prove to much for him

But Well done tonight David

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:59

Yeah good fight, I had Haye to win on points, few of us watching it and everyone had a cheeky punt on it, the sister in law had a fiver on Haye in the 9th at 14/1......lucky biatch

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:01

Haye beats Vitali for me. I thought that after his performance against K Johnson and that perofrmance confirms it for me

Vladimir is a different matter though. He will iron Haye out no question in my mind

Deno1986 · Post by **Deno1986** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:01

Haye really looked the part in there. Did what he had to do against the tough, durable Ruiz. Perfect gameplan for Ruiz style.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:01

Good to see Haye have his timing spot on. He couldn't miss at times. Just a shame he couldn't close the show in style.

Fair play to Ruiz though. He was getting caught with big shots yet never took a step back. Major props to him and I hope he got well paid.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:01

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:haye looked class in there tonight, showed good stamina,lightning speed,brutal punch power and his chin held up. i think vitali is way way too slow for haye and haye would beat him up,wlad vs haye will be 50/50 whoever lands first....HAYEMAKER

vitali is quite a lot quicker than he is given credit for, his movement isn't brilliant, but he has quick hands for such a big man.

I still think he'd have his work cut out against Vitali, but I do think Haye has the power to hit and hurt anyone in the division after that performance. Vitali would land more than Ruiz and harder though.

Im starting to think his chances are better against either of the brothers, but you've got to think that either of them would have beaten Ruiz up in the same amount of rounds.....so let's not all get carried away.

MrBoxingUK2 · Post by **MrBoxingUK2** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:05

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
MrBoxingUK2 wrote:haye looked class in there tonight, showed good stamina,lightning speed,brutal punch power and his chin held up. i think vitali is way way too slow for haye and haye would beat him up,wlad vs haye will be 50/50 whoever lands first....HAYEMAKER
vitali is quite a lot quicker than he is given credit for, his movement isn't brilliant, but he has quick hands for such a big man.

I still think he'd have his work cut out against Vitali, but I do think Haye has the power to hit and hurt anyone in the division after that performance. Vitali would land more than Ruiz and harder though.

Im starting to think his chances are better against either of the brothers, but you've got to think that either of them would have beaten Ruiz up in the same amount of rounds.....so let's not all get carried away.

im givin my opinion..im not gettin "carried away" vitali has two punches left jab str8 right.... and you can see them comin from a mile off, haye might not stop him but i think he will beat vitali up,vitali or wlad wouldnt have stopped ruiz i dont think

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:05

I thought it a mature performance from Haye tonight. There were times I wanted him to jump all over Ruiz to put him away but then cast back your mind to the Thompson fight and you can understand why he didn't.

Just kept doing what was working, finding holes to punch through until it was too much for Ruiz.

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:07

How long would the John Ruiz of tonight lasted against a 1987 Mike Tyson?

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:07

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:vitali or wlad wouldnt have stopped ruiz i dont think

Are you joking? Ruiz tonight was a less mobile version of Arreola who Vitali dominated.

Spud · Post by **Spud** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:08

I was very impressed - good fight - Ruiz was game and Haye was impressive - simple as.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:08

I don`t see that fight setting the heavyweight division alight.

Lets not forget the guys who have already beaten Ruiz ... and a younger,fresher Ruiz at that

The heavyweight division is in a very very bad condition. The boring K-Brothers may dominate it. Haye certainly is not the saviour of it. Looks like we need to keep searching .... :(

Heartbreak_Kid79 · Post by **Heartbreak_Kid79** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:13

Hagler2002 wrote:How long would the John Ruiz of tonight lasted against a 1987 Mike Tyson?

90 seconds!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:14

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
MrBoxingUK2 wrote:haye looked class in there tonight, showed good stamina,lightning speed,brutal punch power and his chin held up. i think vitali is way way too slow for haye and haye would beat him up,wlad vs haye will be 50/50 whoever lands first....HAYEMAKER
vitali is quite a lot quicker than he is given credit for, his movement isn't brilliant, but he has quick hands for such a big man.

I still think he'd have his work cut out against Vitali, but I do think Haye has the power to hit and hurt anyone in the division after that performance. Vitali would land more than Ruiz and harder though.

Im starting to think his chances are better against either of the brothers, but you've got to think that either of them would have beaten Ruiz up in the same amount of rounds.....so let's not all get carried away.
im givin my opinion..im not gettin "carried away" vitali has two punches left jab str8 right.... and you can see them comin from a mile off, haye might not stop him but i think he will beat vitali up,vitali or wlad wouldnt have stopped ruiz i dont think

How do you figure that? only two men ever went the distance with vitali, and one of them ran like a complete bitch all night long.

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:15

Hats off to John Ruiz, he's had a career to be proud of, and a credit to what it means to be a fighter!

Haye "still looks a bit worrying" he might have been coasting(arrogance eventually brings a fall), or he just might not have the finishing tools to lead the division - the Klits are no more greater worry than any of the other top men (giant S-HW's to their advantage), but busier just as strong powerfull fighter/punchers might prove too much for Haye... we shall see!

70s and 40s HWs clean up, not much too compare!!!

U.F.O · Post by **U.F.O** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:20

If Wlad is the first Klit i would be prepared to put a good few quid on a Haye ko.

It's amazing how quickly people forget things, look as resent as the Peters fight even, Wlad was all over the shop when he had pressure applied to him,
In fact it's clear Wlad is a bit of a pussy, apply pressure to him (yes i know it's hard to get past teh JAB) and he falls apart

Haye ko imo

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:22

I would fancy Haye to beat Wlad, Vitali not a chance.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:23

Did anyone else notice Haye appearing to spit out his gumshield. During the exchange with ruiz in the corner, just before he knocked him down, Ruiz appeared to nail him with a shot that shook him, and Haye retreated to his corner and then seemed to spit his own gumshield out.

It may have just looked that way though, I can't be sure without seeing it again.

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:25

I think Haye was starting to blow a bit and really thought he might just ride it out for a points win, obviously the stamina still isn't great.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:26

hayes biggest problem fighting the klits, is that he has to sacrifice one of his assets, which is his outside boxing skills. If he fights them from the outside, they are going to jab his head off, which means he will need to find a tactic which allows him to get past the jab and into range, without shipping shots on the way in.

Both men have height and reach advantages which are significant, and that will make Haye's job much harder, as he is best throwing long punches. On the inside, Haye always looks vulnerable, because he throws a lot of looping crosses and hooks, which leaves large gaps when someone is on top of him.

Wlad has a pretty devastating uppercut, and Vitali throws short cuffing shots on the inside, which seem to carry rather more pop than they would suggest on first viewing.

Small Axe · Post by **Small Axe** » 03 Apr 2010, 19:31

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Wlad has a pretty devastating uppercut, and Vitali throws short cuffing shots on the inside, which seem to carry rather more pop than they would suggest on first viewing.

Wlad has a what? Devastating uppercut? Since when? He has no infighting skills at all!

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