Hardest Puncher.

Who Punched Hardest Pound for Pound.

Lennox Lewis
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2%
Max Baer
7
13%
George Foreman
31
57%
Rocky Marciano
3
6%
Mike Tyson
12
22%
 
Total votes: 54

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Hardest Puncher.

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Which of these Heavyweights do you feel had the hardest punch.
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You did say PFP, so I'd say it's Mike Tyson from that bunch.
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For one punch power I'll go with Tyson.
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For one punch power I go with Baer. For pure 'hurt' and hardness of a shot I go with Foreman.
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The Great John L wrote:For one punch power I'll go with Tyson.
So u think he hit harder then Baer or Foremen?

Id go Foreman. But if ur talking 1 hit power I think Baer.
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Had to think for a bit. For one clean, crippling shot, I went with Baer.
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gambler49 wrote:
The Great John L wrote:For one punch power I'll go with Tyson.
So u think he hit harder then Baer or Foremen?

Id go Foreman. But if ur talking 1 hit power I think Baer.
I think the original poster was talking about 1 punch power, and in that case, yes I would say he hit harder than Foreman or Baer. Baer would be close, but in general, George usually didn't end fights with a single punch.
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The Great John L wrote:
gambler49 wrote:
The Great John L wrote:For one punch power I'll go with Tyson.
So u think he hit harder then Baer or Foremen?

Id go Foreman. But if ur talking 1 hit power I think Baer.
I think the original poster was talking about 1 punch power, and in that case, yes I would say he hit harder than Foreman or Baer. Baer would be close, but in general, George usually didn't end fights with a single punch.
Tyson mostly ended them wiv a combo. Sorry chap, I normally like ur posts. But here I think ur wrong.
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No one in history, "usually" ended their fights with a single punch. That kind of power doesn't exist.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:No one in history, "usually" ended their fights with a single punch. That kind of power doesn't exist.
Yes, that's true, I didn't really state that properly. There are a number examples of HWs who stopped world class opponents with single shots, including George with Moorer. However, George pretty much always bludgeoned his opponents for a while before stoppages, even the lower level ones. Great power, yes, but I just don't think the single punch stoppage power was as good as a number of others, including Tyson.

Sorry, but I just have those memories of guys like Agosto, Dennis and Pires.
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I understand, but Tyson's KO's were swifter as a result of velocity (much better than Foreman, in this regard), not more power, IMO.
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gambler49 wrote:Tyson mostly ended them wiv a combo. Sorry chap, I normally like ur posts. But here I think ur wrong.
Yes, he was a great combination puncher, but I think he has a few examples of guys getting blitzed with one punch, or the first punch of a combination.

BTW, glad to hear that someone likes my posts. :TU:
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:I understand, but Tyson's KO's were swifter as a result of velocity (much better than Foreman, in this regard), not more power, IMO.
Well, power is speed and mass, so I don't really think we're too far off here.

It would have been interesting to see a few others in the list, because there have been some hellacious punchers just during my time as a fan. And a lot of them never really made it anywehere near the top of the division.
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I would have added Shavers to that list. He stamina suck, but his punching power was up there with all of the previous mention.
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Idisagree wrote:I would have added Shavers to that list. He stamina suck, but his punching power was up there with all of the previous mention.
Thanks. He was one I was alluding to. I think he's the hardest puncher I've ever seen.
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How would you guys rate Sonny Liston on the power scale in relation to the other names already mentioned?

Maybe we can track down Albert Westphal and get his opinion. :D
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Of these guys, I believe Foreman was clearly the harder puncher but its noted by many boxers that Shavers was the hardest hitting heavyweight.
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yancey wrote:How would you guys rate Sonny Liston on the power scale in relation to the other names already mentioned?

Maybe we can track down Albert Westphal and get his opinion. :D
Should find him on that canvas.

He's got grandkids in that arena still trying to wake him from his slumber.
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I went with Big George from this bunch.
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
yancey wrote:How would you guys rate Sonny Liston on the power scale in relation to the other names already mentioned?

Maybe we can track down Albert Westphal and get his opinion. :D
Should find him on that canvas.

He's got grandkids in that arena still trying to wake him from his slumber.
:D

Sonny renamed him "Quickphal."
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For me out that group:
1. Mike Tyson
2. George Foreman
3. Max Baer
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Lennox Lewis

However, the number one hardest puncher in term of brutal KO power is Mr. Ernie Shavers. :TU:
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yancey wrote:How would you guys rate Sonny Liston on the power scale in relation to the other names already mentioned?
Sonny would certainly belong in any list of the hardest punching HWs.
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yancey wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
yancey wrote:How would you guys rate Sonny Liston on the power scale in relation to the other names already mentioned?

Maybe we can track down Albert Westphal and get his opinion. :D
Should find him on that canvas.

He's got grandkids in that arena still trying to wake him from his slumber.
:D

Sonny renamed him "Quickphal."
& didn't he just!
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Max Baer
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ecto55 wrote:Max Baer- easy IMO.

What makes me think Baer hits hardest among that list is that in his day he was recognised as a harder single shot puncher than Louis, and was able to cause the deaths of two fighters in doing so.
Ive read that his whole jovial manner was a coping mechanism for having killed in the ring, I'm also trying to find the article where one the opponents he killed was autopsied and the medical examination revealed the Baer punches had ripped the sheared the opponents brain from the membrane that attaches it to the inside of the skull. Thats brute power.
That's why I included him in this and voted for him.
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