Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Roger Tilleman is one and Daniel Van de Wiele from Belgium and Guido Cavalleri Italy.
Tilleman is the bent ref from the Reid vs Ottke fights.
Tilleman is the bent ref from the Reid vs Ottke fights.
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black panther
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
I hope Hennessy makes an appeal to have him replaced. He is one of the most blatently biased referees I have ever seen. He was basically warning Reid for hitting Ottke!G0mez wrote:Roger Tilleman is one and Daniel Van de Wiele from Belgium and Guido Cavalleri Italy.
Tilleman is the bent ref from the Reid vs Ottke fights.
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DIRT SUGAR
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Volcanoes, dodgy officials, what next for the Cobra? This will be one of the best British away wins ever If he pulls this off. Not a massive Froch fan but he does it the hard way I'll give him that!
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Arghh!! You couldn't make it up could you?! I fornicating hate that man.
Lets hope Frochy stops him, cos we all know which way that pudendum will go.
Lets hope Frochy stops him, cos we all know which way that pudendum will go.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
The two belgium judges are big pals too. Often on the same fights together and i think it's bad news. Officiated many a German fight together.
The Italian is good enough, he was on Froch vs Pascal, so is an experienced WBC ref.
The Italian is good enough, he was on Froch vs Pascal, so is an experienced WBC ref.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
I don't think this fight is going the distance.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
these promoters are taking liberties every fight with the home officials.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Thats an effing joke!
That ref was fornicating corrupt
i remember it like yesterday the ref wouldnt even let Reid hit him
That ref was fornicating corrupt
i remember it like yesterday the ref wouldnt even let Reid hit him
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Never seems simple, injuries, Denis Inkin oulling out twice etc.DIRT SUGAR wrote:Volcanoes, dodgy officials, what next for the Cobra? This will be one of the best British away wins ever If he pulls this off. Not a massive Froch fan but he does it the hard way I'll give him that!
Now we had Copenhagen, then moved to Herning, then date moved from 17th to 24th after everyone had bought flights, then a volcano bringing down the skyways (who predicted that one) and now we have the most corrupt joker on the judging panel.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Kessler is pretty genuine imo. Ordinarily I wouldn't expect him to block the changing of officials, but this is the make or break fight of his career. He's coming of a loss and will take every advantage he can.
Froch is the Champ though, so surely he can veto the judges if he smells foul?
Froch is the Champ though, so surely he can veto the judges if he smells foul?
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jameswilson
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
I can remember being very pissed off in that fight. But I think it was Jim Neilly commentating and one bit did make me laugh, Reid had been warned countless times for some ridiculous non existent misdemeanors and then Ottke got warned for hitting bit low and Neilly said 'Oh finally hes warning Ottke, yeah Sven keep em up will you pet'
I suddenly found myself trying to imagine a bearded Belgian bloke saying that.
I suddenly found myself trying to imagine a bearded Belgian bloke saying that.
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hitman_hatton1
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
my heart goes out to carl. 
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hitman_hatton1
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
calm down.RESPECTED1 wrote:hitman_hatton1 wrote:my heart goes out to carl.
Did he bum your girlfriend?
Bitter scrote!
let's face it.
carl has already had 1 favour off the judges in this tournament. ;;-)
i think froch must have got word on it.
cos he was moaning about dodgy judges on the radio the other day.
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jameswilson
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Are you a professional berk, or just a gifted amateur?hitman_hatton1 wrote:calm down.RESPECTED1 wrote:hitman_hatton1 wrote:my heart goes out to carl.
Did he bum your girlfriend?
Bitter scrote!
let's face it.
carl has already had 1 favour off the judges in this tournament. ;;-)
i think froch must have got word on it.
cos he was moaning about dodgy judges on the radio the other day.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Neither the ref or the judges will be able to stop Kessler from getting one almighty beating
COME ON CARL!!!!

COME ON CARL!!!!
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bigjack
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Am i correct in thinking that Kessler needs a ko to stay in the competition,if so that could make it more interesting,still think he is on the slide though and think it will be froch's night,won't be aesy though.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
froch is fcuked now imo that ref should have been banned along time ago
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
bigjack wrote:Am i correct in thinking that Kessler needs a ko to stay in the competition,if so that could make it more interesting,still think he is on the slide though and think it will be froch's night,won't be aesy though.
no if he wins his next 2 he should go through
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big lennox
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Am really excited about this fight, but hugely dissapointed to learn that joker is a judge.He was as bent as a £9 in the Otke-Reid fight.Was it ever investigated?
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bigjack
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
diggler wrote:bigjack wrote:Am i correct in thinking that Kessler needs a ko to stay in the competition,if so that could make it more interesting,still think he is on the slide though and think it will be froch's night,won't be aesy though.
no if he wins his next 2 he should go through[/quote
Is it 3 points for a ko and 2 for a points win
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Tilleman - corrupt or utterly, utterly incompetent re Ottke v Reid, take your pick - has been judging plenty lately and I can't remember him handing in a scandalous sheet.
Darling little Svennie was a different kettle.
Darling little Svennie was a different kettle.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Incompetent my arse, he was paid to prevent Reid from fighting, simple as. Ottke was on the retirement leg of his tour, and his promoters wanted to ensure he kept his title.
There are few blatantly corrupt events in boxing, but that one was as plain as a cauliflower ear.
There are few blatantly corrupt events in boxing, but that one was as plain as a cauliflower ear.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Incompetent my arse, he was paid to prevent Reid from fighting, simple as. Ottke was on the retirement leg of his tour, and his promoters wanted to ensure he kept his title.
There are few blatantly corrupt events in boxing, but that one was as plain as a cauliflower ear.
Well, I couldn't possibly comment as time only allows me to deal with a certain amount of legal proceedings. 8)
Let's just say I remember us dissecting this at the time, helped by some inside info from your good self.