that's a very limited outlook. murray boxed excellently vs thaxton, for instance. straight, quick shots more than pressure. and he broke down a very awkward defensive fighter, in mcallister - appropriately dragging him into a rough fight. we've seen the boxing, seen the pressure, in different situations and he can build on this. he's severely busted up tough cookies who are smaller than him (meager, buckland), but he's also stopped guys his own size, that have campaigned well as light welterweights (thaxton, mcallister - both with awkward styles - and to an extent hickman). murray has done more than he's being given credit for and he has loads of potential.liamlion wrote:Absolute speculation without any foundation!Autobarn wrote:yes you're missing something.
if he meets a stronger pressure fighter i would think he'd do some boxing.
and if he meets a slick boxer, then he'd probably have a plan to put him under some real pressure.
pressure fighter does not necessarily = slow and limited. he can use his assets to break down, and thus slow down, quicker guys. as to the defense issue, i keep on saying. i've seen mitchell's head swiveled round by shots many times, whereas i've seldom seen it happen to murray.
yes mitchell can box well outside, but we saw that he loses a lot in terms of clean scoring blows when he moves so much. i mean, how many times did he puch short vs prescott, and how many times did he hit arms? i'd answer a lot on both counts.
Murray has given asbolutey no indication in his previous showings to suggest he can perform anything other than how he always does e.g. walk-forward, pressure fighter. I really dont think he has another plan and whatever short falls Mitchell may have he absolutely boxed the 'heed' off Prescott and showed some steel and toughness too. The kid has never remotely been close to losing to someone of the level of Youssef Al Hamidi, unlike Murray.
Lets get this right, Murray is susceptible to losing to someone who will box the head off him, partly due to the fact that his feet are always firmly planted. IMO Mitchell has the perfect style and ring craft to do just that (ala his performance against Prescott). Mitchell is leagues above the likes Lee McAllister and I dont see that fight being a blue-print as to how Murray-Mitchell would pan out.
all this stuff about "mitchell!" and "levels" is bollocks. mitchell landed only a handful of good shots on prescott. mitchell is being given the opportunities (prescott, katsidis) whereas you're bringing up an unmotivated, stale murray (of the munguia and al hamidi fights) to present a deliberately one sided argument.
both are excellent fighters and would have one hell of a fight. i'm glad these 2 names are getting thrown around as i always thought it wasa great matchup and always felt mitchell was bound for lightweight.