jamesmcdonnell wrote:Sure, but he's still ONE OF the worst heavyweight champions of all time, and is undoubtedly the most boring to watch.
I honestly think that he has been able to win only because referee's do not do their job's properly
Depends on how you definy "One" I suppose, you try naming a list of 20 top world champions of the last 105 years. It gets a struggle. I would think (although I haven't done it) Ruiz might scrape into it, almost certainly into the 25.
However, the single worst heavyweight champion in history as Bunce labelled him..... No chance.
He might be Ugly to watch no doubt (although I don't find Chris Byrd particularly exciting). He is effective and doesn't get enough credit in my opinion. Rahman still gets more credit, who instigated all of the attacks in that fight, who won that fight.
stujones wrote:Toney, I actually don't mind Ruiz and I think the stick he gets is undeserved. I have heard posters (usually the anti Jones bigrade at ESB) say that Rahman and Oquendo "DOA'd" when they fought Ruiz. Absolute crap, Ruiz beat them fair and square. He was robbed of a KO victory vs Johnson and also beat Golota (fairly in my opinion). Certainly not the worst champion in history (as Bunce described him).
A good fighter, but the comprehensive defeat by Roy Jones shows for me that a fight with Klitchsko wouldn't sell and is a forgone conclusion. He might be good enough to partially unify the belts (Byrd vs Ruiz will be interesting). He is not good enough for Klitchsko. If Toney wins, there will be talk of Toney vs Klitchsko and the if Toney wins well, it might show it too be an interesting fight.
Also, unlike when he lost vs Jones, Ruiz has now proven himself beyond doubt to be among the best in the devision. A loss here wouldn't signal the end of Ruiz and he can be involved in other intriguing contests for a version of the title (Byrd vs Ruiz, Ruiz vs Brewester). A loss for Toney would signal the end of him and too be fair, we need as many condentors as possible.
stujones wrote:Toney, I actually don't mind Ruiz and I think the stick he gets is undeserved. I have heard posters (usually the anti Jones bigrade at ESB) say that Rahman and Oquendo "DOA'd" when they fought Ruiz. Absolute crap, Ruiz beat them fair and square. He was robbed of a KO victory vs Johnson and also beat Golota (fairly in my opinion). Certainly not the worst champion in history (as Bunce described him).
A good fighter, but the comprehensive defeat by Roy Jones shows for me that a fight with Klitchsko wouldn't sell and is a forgone conclusion. He might be good enough to partially unify the belts (Byrd vs Ruiz will be interesting). He is not good enough for Klitchsko. If Toney wins, there will be talk of Toney vs Klitchsko and the if Toney wins well, it might show it too be an interesting fight.
Also, unlike when he lost vs Jones, Ruiz has now proven himself beyond doubt to be among the best in the devision. A loss here wouldn't signal the end of Ruiz and he can be involved in other intriguing contests for a version of the title (Byrd vs Ruiz, Ruiz vs Brewester). A loss for Toney would signal the end of him and too be fair, we need as many condentors as possible.
This guy is as high as a kite!!
Call me thick, but I don't get it. Point out the flaws in the post please.
stujones wrote:Toney, I actually don't mind Ruiz and I think the stick he gets is undeserved. I have heard posters (usually the anti Jones bigrade at ESB) say that Rahman and Oquendo "DOA'd" when they fought Ruiz. Absolute crap, Ruiz beat them fair and square. He was robbed of a KO victory vs Johnson and also beat Golota (fairly in my opinion). Certainly not the worst champion in history (as Bunce described him).
A good fighter, but the comprehensive defeat by Roy Jones shows for me that a fight with Klitchsko wouldn't sell and is a forgone conclusion. He might be good enough to partially unify the belts (Byrd vs Ruiz will be interesting). He is not good enough for Klitchsko. If Toney wins, there will be talk of Toney vs Klitchsko and the if Toney wins well, it might show it too be an interesting fight.
Also, unlike when he lost vs Jones, Ruiz has now proven himself beyond doubt to be among the best in the devision. A loss here wouldn't signal the end of Ruiz and he can be involved in other intriguing contests for a version of the title (Byrd vs Ruiz, Ruiz vs Brewester). A loss for Toney would signal the end of him and too be fair, we need as many condentors as possible.
This guy is as high as a kite!!
Call me thick, but I don't get it. Point out the flaws in the post please.
