Overrated fights

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 08 Jul 2010, 10:54

These are fights that were highly anticipated and that everybody expected to be exciting, action-filled matches, but turned out to be duds.

I'll start with an early one whose 100th anniversary was July 4: Johnson-Jeffries. This fight was highly anticipated as the "Fight of the Century" and was the biggest boxing match thus far in the history of the sport. But, as it turned out, Jeffries had nothing following a six-year layoff and Johnson won every rounds except, possibly, the fourth when Jeffries made a bit of a rally. Not only was it one-sided, with Johnson dominating the last eleven rounds, it was boring - with numerous clinches and holding by both men.

Idisagree · Post by **Idisagree** » 08 Jul 2010, 11:06

DLH - Trinidad

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 08 Jul 2010, 11:37

Dempsey-Carpentier.
The fight came with huge hype but was really one way traffic for the most part.
Georges wasnt strong enough to hang in there with Jack.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 08 Jul 2010, 11:38

Lewis/Holyfield 1- Horrible fight, even worse decision.

As for romanticized fights that I think are overrated.

Ike/Tua
Dlh/Quartey

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 08 Jul 2010, 13:22

Idisagree wrote:DLH - Trinidad

It was heavily hyped but I don't recall anyone saying it was a good fight.

Edit . . I just read the first post. The topic then should be DISSAPOINTING FIGHTS . . under-rated implies that people say the fight was actually good.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 08 Jul 2010, 22:04

Massively, Ibeabuchi-Tua. Massively.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 09 Jul 2010, 03:05

This is going to cause a stir, but I'm going to have to say...

HAGLER-HEARNS!

Of course it was brutal, of course it was exciting, but a lot of people will tell you it was the greatest fight of all time. For me, ultimately it was too one-sided to be even close to that accolade. Hearns fought hard from the off, but there was never any giant swing of momentum, they didn't trade knockdowns, the finish didn't come out of nowhere, and you weren't left with the feeling that there was unfinished business at the end of it - all ingredients of many other "great fights".

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 09 Jul 2010, 03:45

Gotta disagree with all of that except that I don't think it was one of the absolute greatest fights of all time. There definitely wasn't anything one sided about it.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 09 Jul 2010, 09:43

Momentum swing happened in the first round but after that Hearns was putting more into his left hook than his right which told you he was in trouble.

Don't forget the nasty cut Hagler had too.

The weekend after the fight Henry Cooper, writing for one of the tabloids, said that he felt the fight was disappointing because Hearns didn't box Hagler which is what he needed to do to win.

Unsettled business? I have always felt that Hearns would have won rematches with Leonard (probably did) and Hagler (robbed of his chance). Hearsn would never have fought that way (and probably not have broken his hand) a second time and who knows what the result would have been.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 09 Jul 2010, 10:00

For all the massive hype, Louis v Schmeling II was never going to be a great fight. Louis had won 11 straight, was World Champion with 3 defenses under his belt, and Schmeling, who had pulled a big upset in the 1st fight, was 2 yrs older and pushing 33.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 09 Jul 2010, 12:40

Seamus wrote:For all the massive hype, Louis v Schmeling II was never going to be a great fight. Louis had won 11 straight, was World Champion with 3 defenses under his belt, and Schmeling, who had pulled a big upset in the 1st fight, was 2 yrs older and pushing 33.

Does anyone call that a great fight, though? I've never heard it.

Bricks · Post by **Bricks** » 09 Jul 2010, 13:02

oliverfennell wrote:This is going to cause a stir, but I'm going to have to say...

HAGLER-HEARNS!

Of course it was brutal, of course it was exciting, but a lot of people will tell you it was the greatest fight of all time. For me, ultimately it was too one-sided to be even close to that accolade. Hearns fought hard from the off, but there was never any giant swing of momentum, they didn't trade knockdowns, the finish didn't come out of nowhere, and you weren't left with the feeling that there was unfinished business at the end of it - all ingredients of many other "great fights".

Yep Im tired of hearing it called the "greatest 3 round fight ever".
Of course the anticipation was incredible before the fight and the first round was tremendous one of the best in boxing history no doubt. But the second and 3rd do not belong in the same category in my opinion. Hearns had shot his bolt and the drama of the cut aside Hagler had taken over.
Oliver when you say something like this there are always going to be some who will bristle at your impudence, but I know exactly what you mean.

To me it was a real anticlimax that there was never a rematch, and not just as I am a Hearns fan. The first round was undoubtedly incredible for those journalists watching ringside as historically any boxing match was always more real and violent in person up close and personal.

But HD tv has really bought the true ringside boxing experience into the home to some extent. I would love to see Hagler and Hearns in HD so you could hear the gloves smacking!

hhaehre · Post by **hhaehre** » 09 Jul 2010, 17:49

I always felt Norton-Holmes was way overrated. A good fight for sure and an exicting last couple of rounds but no way is it on of the greatest heavyweight fight of all time.

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 09 Jul 2010, 20:48

Really? I thought it was a great fight. Norton got off to a bit of a slow start, but there were several really good rounds. With the possible exception of the first two Holyfield-Bowe fights, I haven't seen a better heavyweight fight since then and that was more than 30 years ago.

jaclem2 · Post by **jaclem2** » 11 Jul 2010, 15:01

..not over rated after the fight, but louis/conn II was one of the great disappointments....

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 12 Jul 2010, 04:15

Ambling Alp wrote:Really? I thought it was a great fight. Norton got off to a bit of a slow start, but there were several really good rounds. With the possible exception of the first two Holyfield-Bowe fights, I haven't seen a better heavyweight fight since then and that was more than 30 years ago.

round for round i thought the Witherspoon fight was better.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 12 Jul 2010, 04:19

I always felt that Hagler-Hearns was overrated. It was a cracking fight but not one of the greatest fights of all time, in my opinion. Hearns was all punched out after the first round and wobbling around like a new-born giraffe. It wasn't pretty.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 12 Jul 2010, 12:36

Counter-puncher wrote:
Ambling Alp wrote:Really? I thought it was a great fight. Norton got off to a bit of a slow start, but there were several really good rounds. With the possible exception of the first two Holyfield-Bowe fights, I haven't seen a better heavyweight fight since then and that was more than 30 years ago.
round for round i thought the Witherspoon fight was better.

Wow, I'd STRONGLY disagree with that one, but to each his own . .

wsbuf · Post by **wsbuf** » 12 Jul 2010, 15:08

raylawpc wrote:These are fights that were highly anticipated and that everybody expected to be exciting, action-filled matches, but turned out to be duds.

Winky Wright-Felix Trinidad. So one sided, was a dud.

jrc26 · Post by **jrc26** » 17 Jul 2010, 13:29

Barrera-Morales trilogy. I don't argue the action and I am sure most people on here loved those fights, but for some reason they just did not entertain me. When 2 guys are literally hitting each other at will, and you are watching knowing that there is no chance for a KO, that kills the suspense for me. I hate watching a fight knowing it is going to the cards.

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