Does anyone feel Kell Brook will fall when he steps up?

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Does anyone feel Kell Brook will fall when he steps up?

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i'v watched quite a few of his fights and i dont see the buzz around this kid, his punching power is ok but it its nothing special, his defence is awful hands below the waist and i'm of the belief that his chin is suspect and i really think most of the fighters boxrec has listed in there top 20 will most likely KO him, there are several fighters saul Alvarez has beat that would likely KO him IMO
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Hard to say , until it actually happens. Jennings will be a good test for him, I'd hope, as Jennings is a capable British level fighter.
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couldn't you write anyone, instead of any1? My my my.

Anway, i think he is one of these guys who is going to improve as he fights better opposition, he seems to have a few more gears to go through. I mean against bienias he looked sluggish to me. But it wasn't much of a challenge, as Bienias threw about one meaningfull punch all night to be honest
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I really don't think he has been tested at all an has more or less had the British title wraped up an given to him there is far more people more desevin an shot than lomax elwell an Barry jones I'm looking forward to seeing him an Jennings get it on then I will rate him more
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The Jones win was a good one, I think that Kell is the next good domestic Ingle fighter - he's not world class for me and Jennings will beat him
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Jennings is a very nicely schooled boxer so if Kell impresses against him, things are looking good for his future prospects.
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Jeff, finally...

I honestly agree.

Well, I said when the initial match up was made Jennings was too slick for him, and he has amazing stamina, a decent chin, workrate and a brilliant attitude.

With all the delays I'm hoping he's still as sharp as he was and can bring that too Brook. I fancy him to beat Kell over 12 if he can avoid the early bombs.
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Good - yes.

World class? no.

You gotta think about who else is out there at 147... Berto, Mosely, Mayweather, then Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Pacquiao, Cintron etc all can make the weight too.
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doctor wrote:i'v watched quite a few of his fights and i dont see the buzz around this kid, his punching power is ok but it its nothing special, his defence is awful hands below the waist and i'm of the belief that his chin is suspect and i really think most of the fighters boxrec has listed in there top 20 will most likely KO him, there are several fighters saul Alvarez has beat that would likely KO him IMO
his chin isn't suspect iv never seen him wobbled have you? brook would put saul alvarez too sleepp imo, cotto's fat little brother had alvarez badly hurt and he is a lightweight!!!!!!! i see brook stopping jennings in 6 and going onto be a good world chapion
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Thing is, is the Jennings fight a true test, because Jennings has been out for so long?
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HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
doctor wrote:i'v watched quite a few of his fights and i dont see the buzz around this kid, his punching power is ok but it its nothing special, his defence is awful hands below the waist and i'm of the belief that his chin is suspect and i really think most of the fighters boxrec has listed in there top 20 will most likely KO him, there are several fighters saul Alvarez has beat that would likely KO him IMO
his chin isn't suspect iv never seen him wobbled have you? brook would put saul alvarez too sleepp imo, cotto's fat little brother had alvarez badly hurt and he is a lightweight!!!!!!! i see brook stopping jennings in 6 and going onto be a good world chapion
he was down and hurt against a Bulgarian euro-bum the worst of the worst and since then he hasnt fought any1 with more then a 40% ko ratio
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Considering who the main title holders currently are at Welter, Brook would currently stand very little chance at all if he got a world title shot. He'd get schooled.

As for the Saul Alvarez debate. Alvarez has proven himself against much higher opposition than Brook has fought. I'd take Alvarez over Brook for sure.
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doctor wrote:
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
doctor wrote:i'v watched quite a few of his fights and i dont see the buzz around this kid, his punching power is ok but it its nothing special, his defence is awful hands below the waist and i'm of the belief that his chin is suspect and i really think most of the fighters boxrec has listed in there top 20 will most likely KO him, there are several fighters saul Alvarez has beat that would likely KO him IMO
his chin isn't suspect iv never seen him wobbled have you? brook would put saul alvarez too sleepp imo, cotto's fat little brother had alvarez badly hurt and he is a lightweight!!!!!!! i see brook stopping jennings in 6 and going onto be a good world chapion
he was down and hurt against a Bulgarian euro-bum the worst of the worst and since then he hasnt fought any1 with more then a 40% ko ratio
he wasn't hurt tho! i didnt say he hasnt been put down, people make out barkers chin is suspect because he has been down, which is bollox he has never been hurt either kell will fight people with good ko ratios soon :OhYes: and will show his chin isn't dodgy :TU:
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Kell Brook is a very good exciting fighter - but, he really comes across as an accident waiting to happen.

He may well have the punch and ability to dramatically beat some top guys. Though I feel he could just as easilly come apart against a decent puncher lacking in half as much ability as himself.

He seems to be missing that extra little bit of specialness that most other Ingle fighters have had - and possess almost all of their weak points.
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doctor wrote:i'v watched quite a few of his fights and i dont see the buzz around this kid, his punching power is ok but it its nothing special, his defence is awful hands below the waist and i'm of the belief that his chin is suspect and i really think most of the fighters boxrec has listed in there top 20 will most likely KO him, there are several fighters saul Alvarez has beat that would likely KO him IMO
Completely disagree with you.

I regard Kel Brook as perhaps the brightest talent we have in the UK - met him before he even went professional and people were raving about him them and I highly respect their opinions.

Now he has had a few fights as a professional - I think he is an excellent fighter who will do very well for himself.
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brook is an excellent prospect who gas had far too much for the men he has faced. With respect; Jennings is at least a league above any of those men. Brook has very good power, is accurate and cuts the ring well. He does have his faults though.; as has Jennings. I think Jennings will jab and move + he has a very decent counter hook. I'm betting on the fight going over 6 rounds and Jennings is by far the more qualified in proven staying power. He'll win the last 6 rounds.
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HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
doctor wrote:
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote: his chin isn't suspect iv never seen him wobbled have you? brook would put saul alvarez too sleepp imo, cotto's fat little brother had alvarez badly hurt and he is a lightweight!!!!!!! i see brook stopping jennings in 6 and going onto be a good world chapion
he was down and hurt against a Bulgarian euro-bum the worst of the worst and since then he hasnt fought any1 with more then a 40% ko ratio
he wasn't hurt tho! i didnt say he hasnt been put down, people make out barkers chin is suspect because he has been down, which is bollox he has never been hurt either kell will fight people with good ko ratios soon :OhYes: and will show his chin isn't dodgy :TU:


sometimes its best to just say ... Oops. Forgot about that(when its clear you didn't know about it)
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whicker wrote:Hard to say , until it actually happens. Jennings will be a good test for him, I'd hope, as Jennings is a capable British level fighter.
just hope it happens im sick of it being canceled
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Adamj1987 wrote:
whicker wrote:Hard to say , until it actually happens. Jennings will be a good test for him, I'd hope, as Jennings is a capable British level fighter.
just hope it happens im sick of it being canceled
Hey Adam

Think Jennings will be rusty?
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jBacca wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:
whicker wrote:Hard to say , until it actually happens. Jennings will be a good test for him, I'd hope, as Jennings is a capable British level fighter.
just hope it happens im sick of it being canceled
Hey Adam

Think Jennings will be rusty?
nah he'll of been training for last 3 brook dates and the other1 when he got injured in training
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Adamj1987 wrote:
jBacca wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote: just hope it happens im sick of it being canceled
Hey Adam

Think Jennings will be rusty?
nah he'll of been training for last 3 brook dates and the other1 when he got injured in training
Ah, good stuff then. Was worried we were gonna' get a below-par Jennings on the night.
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doctor wrote:
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
doctor wrote:i'v watched quite a few of his fights and i dont see the buzz around this kid, his punching power is ok but it its nothing special, his defence is awful hands below the waist and i'm of the belief that his chin is suspect and i really think most of the fighters boxrec has listed in there top 20 will most likely KO him, there are several fighters saul Alvarez has beat that would likely KO him IMO
his chin isn't suspect iv never seen him wobbled have you? brook would put saul alvarez too sleepp imo, cotto's fat little brother had alvarez badly hurt and he is a lightweight!!!!!!! i see brook stopping jennings in 6 and going onto be a good world chapion
he was down and hurt against a Bulgarian euro-bum the worst of the worst
Was he f*ck.
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jBacca wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:
jBacca wrote: Hey Adam

Think Jennings will be rusty?
nah he'll of been training for last 3 brook dates and the other1 when he got injured in training
Ah, good stuff then. Was worried we were gonna' get a below-par Jennings on the night.
i shouldnt think so, hope not anyway
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tonyevs wrote:
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
doctor wrote: he was down and hurt against a Bulgarian euro-bum the worst of the worst and since then he hasnt fought any1 with more then a 40% ko ratio
he wasn't hurt tho! i didnt say he hasnt been put down, people make out barkers chin is suspect because he has been down, which is bollox he has never been hurt either kell will fight people with good ko ratios soon :OhYes: and will show his chin isn't dodgy :TU:


sometimes its best to just say ... Oops. Forgot about that(when its clear you didn't know about it)
no tony complete oppsite daftlad, i knw he has been dropped before!! so stop assuming ;;-) think it's twice hes been down, maybe im wrong but just becus hes been down doesnbt make his chin dodgy could have been off balance!
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
doctor wrote:
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote: his chin isn't suspect iv never seen him wobbled have you? brook would put saul alvarez too sleepp imo, cotto's fat little brother had alvarez badly hurt and he is a lightweight!!!!!!! i see brook stopping jennings in 6 and going onto be a good world chapion
he was down and hurt against a Bulgarian euro-bum the worst of the worst
Was he f*ck.
this guy is talkin shite mate, brook was clearly not hurt
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