Everyone Eat Some Humble Pie and...

[jrc26]

admit when you were wrong about some things boxing. We all argue back and forth like we know it all, but let's talk about when we were wayyyy off.

-Fighters you were sure would be champions who turned out duds.
-Fighters you were sure would be duds who went all the way.
-Horrible fight predictions. You are watching the big PPV and all your buddies are there. You know for a fact this guy is going to win easy...2-3 rounds later he is KTFO.

My worst pick ever. I really truly thought even 60% of Roy Jones would beat 100% of an overrated Calzaghe. I had $100 on him at 12-1 to win by KO, so the first round was entertaining, but I was wrong that I thought Jones had something left in the tank, and I can admit that Joe Cal was better than I thought. Worst part is I helped a few buddies who don't watch boxing really, lose money on that fight.

I was on the Jermain Taylor bandwagon from day 1, and after he out pointed Hopkins twice I really thought the torch was passed and he might rain as champion for years. Although he was decent, he surely turned out to have major flaws and ended up shot quickly.

Audley Harrison. I fell for it. I don't think I am the only one. Granted, I suppose he still has the chance to maybe make something happen, but I thought he had the tools to be really good.

OK G.I. I know you have been wrong about something. Think about it really hard and tell us all. DD

[Panzerfaust]

I had high hopes for Povetkin...

[jrc26]

I predicted Khan would lose to Graham Earl, I also said that Prescott had fought nobody and it'd be a typically easy win for Khan.

After you said "had fought nobody" that made me think of a horrible pick I had. I loved Monte Barrett to beat Solis, because Solis was a fat slob and hadn't fought anyone with a pulse really. Well I was way wrong and it turns out Barrett decided to fight like a man in his next fight against Tua. I was one fight early.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Fighters you were sure would be champions who turned out duds.
Alex Ramos, he was my boy on tomorrows champions.

Another Middleweight was Curtis parker, I love Philly fighters and I thought he was the goods. A possibility of pushing Hagler.

Mark Breland, I wouldn't call him a bust. He won gold, but I was all in on that hype train.

-Fighters you were sure would be duds who went all the way.

Back to Tomorrows champions. I thought Czyz was crap and I loved it when Hamsho brutalized him. He is still an alltime horrible announcer and a jack ass. But in the grand scheme he is probably underrated as a fighter.

Ray mancini, I hate to admit it. But I got so sick of the story of him trying to win the title for his father and that was early in his career. I kept thinking he would lose and he kept on winning. When he finally lost, he showed how good he really was. I hated Ray in my youth, but I look back fondly at him now. Another underrated fighter that I thought sucked coming up


-Horrible fight predictions. You are watching the big PPV and all your buddies are there. You know for a fact this guy is going to win easy...2-3 rounds later he is KTFO.

Hatton over Pacquiao
Camacho over Chavez
Botha over Tyson- It looked good, but at the end everyone else in the room was LOL.
Saad over Qawi in the rematch
Tito over Hopkins

I could go on for hours, but I'll hold onto a bit of my ego.

[jrc26]

Fighters you were sure would be champions who turned out duds.
Alex Ramos, he was my boy on tomorrows champions.

Another Middleweight was Curtis parker, I love Philly fighters and I thought he was the goods. A possibility of pushing Hagler.

Mark Breland, I wouldn't call him a bust. He won gold, but I was all in on that hype train.

-Fighters you were sure would be duds who went all the way.

Back to Tomorrows champions. I thought Czyz was crap and I loved it when Hamsho brutalized him. He is still an alltime horrible announcer and a jack ass. But in the grand scheme he is probably underrated as a fighter.

Ray mancini, I hate to admit it. But I got so sick of the story of him trying to win the title for his father and that was early in his career. I kept thinking he would lose and he kept on winning. When he finally lost, he showed how good he really was. I hated Ray in my youth, but I look back fondly at him now. Another underrated fighter that I thought sucked coming up


-Horrible fight predictions. You are watching the big PPV and all your buddies are there. You know for a fact this guy is going to win easy...2-3 rounds later he is KTFO.

Hatton over Pacquiao
Camacho over Chavez
Botha over Tyson- It looked good, but at the end everyone else in the room was LOL.
Saad over Qawi in the rematch
Tito over Hopkins

I could go on for hours, but I'll hold onto a bit of my ego.

Great stories. That was what I was imagining when I made the topic. How many times did you say "I told you so" in the first 5 rounds of Tyson-Botha? LOL.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Fighters you were sure would be champions who turned out duds.
Alex Ramos, he was my boy on tomorrows champions.

Another Middleweight was Curtis parker, I love Philly fighters and I thought he was the goods. A possibility of pushing Hagler.

Mark Breland, I wouldn't call him a bust. He won gold, but I was all in on that hype train.

-Fighters you were sure would be duds who went all the way.

Back to Tomorrows champions. I thought Czyz was crap and I loved it when Hamsho brutalized him. He is still an alltime horrible announcer and a jack ass. But in the grand scheme he is probably underrated as a fighter.

Ray mancini, I hate to admit it. But I got so sick of the story of him trying to win the title for his father and that was early in his career. I kept thinking he would lose and he kept on winning. When he finally lost, he showed how good he really was. I hated Ray in my youth, but I look back fondly at him now. Another underrated fighter that I thought sucked coming up


-Horrible fight predictions. You are watching the big PPV and all your buddies are there. You know for a fact this guy is going to win easy...2-3 rounds later he is KTFO.

Hatton over Pacquiao
Camacho over Chavez
Botha over Tyson- It looked good, but at the end everyone else in the room was LOL.
Saad over Qawi in the rematch
Tito over Hopkins

I could go on for hours, but I'll hold onto a bit of my ego.

Great stories. That was what I was imagining when I made the topic. How many times did you say "I told you so" in the first 5 rounds of Tyson-Botha? LOL.

You have no idea, there was probably 20 or 25 people there and I was the only one who thought it would get out of the first. The way Botha was acting like larry holmes with his arms at his sides made it even sweeter until the lapse in concentration and consequently consciousness.

I didn't mention Holyfield/Bowe 1. My friend and I bet the loser couldn't shave or trim their beard until the new year. To make it sporty we went 2 or 3 weeks without shaving before the fight. A bottle of Vodka later and i was Grizzly Adams until New Years.

[wsbuf]

I bet Duran would beat Hearns. Lost that money quick! Could have been the drinks I had at bar before fight.

[BoxBuzz]

I thought Greg Page was going to Inherit the Ali Legacy.....Louisville was an adopted home of mine during my life....and I really thought Greg had what it took......Still do....but he never had that focused work ethic.

When Matt Franklin lost to Eddie Gregory I was shocked.

USAA network really had me sold on Ed Mahone. How'd that work out?

I'm not easily fooled, so not sure I have too many total shocks....I tend to know when fighters are evenly matched and don't place too much in the way of expectations on those fights.

I do however think that the Duran Hearns fight was a fluke. I think they were a lot more evenly matched than that encounter would reveal.

I also think Norton and Shavers was flukish. But Earnie honestly owned the rights to a surprise anytime he entered the ring.

Quarry Chuvalo suprised me

I never thought Nielson could beat even a washed up Holmes

Toney Holyfield was an eye opener.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Duran and Hearns were my two favorite fighters. I couldn't even make a prediction. But I remember talking with some guys at the closed circuit venue about Hearns predicting a 2nd round KO and I emphatically stated that if anyone got stopped it would be Tommy.

[jrc26]

I thought Greg Page was going to Inherit the Ali Legacy.....Louisville was an adopted home of mine during my life....and I really thought Greg had what it took......Still do....but he never had that focused work ethic.

When Matt Franklin lost to Eddie Gregory I was shocked.

USAA network really had me sold on Ed Mahone. How'd that work out?

I'm not easily fooled, so not sure I have too many total shocks....I tend to know when fighters are evenly matched and don't place too much in the way of expectations on those fights.

I do however think that the Duran Hearns fight was a fluke. I think they were a lot more evenly matched than that encounter would reveal.

I also think Norton and Shavers was flukish. But Earnie honestly owned the rights to a surprise anytime he entered the ring.

Quarry Chuvalo suprised me

I never thought Nielson could beat even a washed up Holmes

Toney Holyfield was an eye opener.

Toney-Holyfield is a good one and so is Toney-Jirov. People forget how horrible Toney had looked in his previous fights and how good Jirov was at that time. I thought Toney was a just a name getting a payday at that point.

It seems like common sense that Jones would kill him now, but at the time of the fight Ruiz-Jones Jr. was so evenly split when it came to "expert" picks. I wouldn't go so far as to say I didn't think Jones could win, but I never would have said he would win as easily as he did.

[dempseyfire]

Speaking of Toney, I bought too much into his post-HW hype and really thought after the Jirov and Holyfield victories he'd finally learned to stay disciplined . . . but some people never change.

I thought Michael Nunn would reign at 160 until the mid 90s . .

Bad fight predictions:

Marquez over Mayweather Jr (I thought the time-off would mean something)

Ruddock over Lennox

Ibragimov over Klitschko

Pavlik over Hopkins

[crusader]

I have been watching boxing for 9 years (since 11) and the only 'really' bad predictions I made in that time were picking Antonio Pitalua over Edwin Valero and Foreman over Cotto. I was thinking, "styles make fights' and ‘Cotto is past it’’, but obviously I was incorrect in these cases. When I say really bad I mean looking at each fighter's record and bouts on video, there wasn't much to support my prediction. Of course I have made other incorrect predictions just as everyone else has, but I don't think any of these were out of line. As long as bias does not prevent objectivity, it is hard to be 'way' off more than a few times.

When it comes to seriously over rating fighters, I cannot recall doing so. Waiting until they fight a solid opponent usually prevents this. I laugh when guys with three fights against bums are already labelled as 'future champions'.

[jrc26]

Speaking of Toney, I bought too much into his post-HW hype and really thought after the Jirov and Holyfield victories he'd finally learned to stay disciplined . . . but some people never change.

I thought Michael Nunn would reign at 160 until the mid 90s . . Bad fight predictions:

Marquez over Mayweather Jr (I thought the time-off would mean something)

Ruddock over Lennox

Ibragimov over Klitschko

Pavlik over Hopkins

He was a left hook thrown from the hip from probably doing just that. One of the great bailout KO's of all-time.

[crusader]

I predicted an early ko win for Taylor in the first fight with Pavlik.

Almost got it though. Prior to that, I remember that it was Miranda who was being hyped up as the serious threat to Taylor and most people thought he would beat Pavlik.

[Robinson]

In 1998-99 I was convinced that Michael Grant would become the next
great HW champion.

[jaclem2]

....i thought ali...in his clay days....wouldn't make it. thought liston would destroy him. even after their fight i didn't think clay/ali would ever be more than mediocre. then as he started winning i thought that as soon as his reflexes slipped he'd start taking beatings....and i didn't think his chin or body could stand up to that.

[bjermaine]

i thought spadafora was headed for a great career.

[hhaehre]

I put money on Golota to upset Lewis. I was so sure a guy with sound fundamentals coming forward behind a stiff jab would show Lewis up and expose him as the clumsy awkward bum I felt he was. I kept mouthing off to my friends ahead of the fight and was showered with laughter when Golota was destroyed within seconds.

I was also sure Seldon and Kirk Johnson would go on to great things, they both looked good early. When Seldon was boxing McCalls ears off I felt sure he was on his way but then the wheels came off fast.

[Ezzard]

Lonnie Smith. Watched him crush Billy Costello and thought this guy is a special talent. Then just fell off the radar...

Like Saad I also expected Hatton to beat Pac based on size.

Also expected Tyson to squash Holyfield. I couldn't see Tyson losing to a man moving up a division. I'd also seen the hype job done on Mike Spinks and knew they had to promote an 'opponent' as being some kind of challenge. After going through the mangler in the 3 fights with Bowe Holyfield seemed finished.

Dempsey, everyone thought Nunn was the future of boxing. That one caught a lot of us out.

I'm now supporting the Welsh light-heavy Nathan Cleverly. I'm sure he's going to have a fine career.

[Goodnight, Irene]

A fella by the name of William Guthrie (anybody remember him?) had me bragging to my mates for a while how he was the next big thing...embarrassed the hell out of me, he did

It was a tentative selection, but a selection on my part nonetheless to take Hatton over Pacquiao. Went down like a lead balloon, that one

[BoxBuzz]

....i thought ali...in his clay days....wouldn't make it. thought liston would destroy him. even after their fight i didn't think clay/ali would ever be more than mediocre. then as he started winning i thought that as soon as his reflexes slipped he'd start taking beatings....and i didn't think his chin or body could stand up to that.

Arent' you also the fella who thought Ezz really did beat Moore in all their fights?....

And if I'm not mistaken you occasionally express doubt that Aaron Pryor is the greatest pound for pound fighter that has ever lived?

My friend, a single slice of pie or even the whole pie may not be enough in your case.

I suggest opening a bakery.

[orbtastic]

A fella by the name of William Guthrie (anybody remember him?) had me bragging to my mates for a while how he was the next big thing...embarrassed the hell out of me, he did

It was a tentative selection, but a selection on my part nonetheless to take Hatton over Pacquiao. Went down like a lead balloon, that one

Guthrie...was it Johnson who laid him out cold and he was stretchered out of the arena?

He always reminded me a little of Eddie Hopson.

Tyson/Holyfield seems a common one, but I'll admit to thinking that due to poor performances from Evander that Mike would walk through him (despite the fact his post jail oppo had been pretty poor).

Ole Klemetsen for me looked a mortal lock for a portion of the world title but it wasn't to be. Same with Eddie Smulders.

[yancey]

Quarry to beat Ellis.

Hagler to take out Leonard.

[yancey]

Oh yeah, I also thought Jose Torres would beat Dick Tiger in their rematch.

Boy, do I remember that televised fight. The beer bottles were flying after that close decision.

Don Dunphy called that fight and I remember him getting under the ring at the end of the telecast to escape the riot.

[Mr E]

After he crushed Milton McCrory, I thought Donald Curry would wax Marvin Hagler and go on to become the next Sugar Ray Robinson.