FROCH ON CALZAGHE .....OOOH PUT YOUR CLAWS AWAY YOU TWO!

J · Post by J » 20 Apr 2005, 07:38

“I am starting to feel sorry for the Calzaghes,” began Froch.

“Every time they attempt to fend off one of my challenges to them, they leave themselves wide open.

“It is becoming a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.

“Firstly Joe’s dad attempted to price his boy out of the market by asking for £1 million to fight me.

“Now that hasn’t washed, Joe has come out saying that I am miles away from being good enough to fight him.

“Sorry to do this to you Joe; but let’s take a look at your last two opponents.

“We have the all conquering Mger Mkrtchian, ranked at a lofty 34 by the WBC.

“Then lets not forget the outstanding Kabary Salem, who isn’t even ranked by the organisation, yet stretched you 12 rounds.

“Whereas I am ranked 22nd and my next opponent Henry Porras is ranked 11th.

“Its more*like I'm too good. I think it is you Joe who have been fighting nobodies.”

“In my opinion its fighters like you, sitting in the comfort zone and only taking soft touches, that have led to Sky scaling down their boxing coverage.

Froch added: “I don’t think much of your next opponent Mario Veit either; he was bad enough the first time round.

“Where are you going to go after that? It seems you have already lost out on the Lacy fight.

“Like I said last time, all your team do is reel off a series of names: Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins and Glencoffe Johnson have all been mentioned.

“Nothing ever happens.

“So come on and give the fans what they want to see, a good old world class domestic dust up.

“Me versus you would be an even better fight than Benn vs Eubank I.

“If you’re scared of losing your title, keep it. Lets just have a 12 round International contest.

“In this day and age its not always about the belts, it is more important to make the big fights.

“Nothing is standing in the way of this fight happening, so long as your promoter is reasonable and doesn’t look for options.

“You have an easy fight to get through.

“I have a much tougher proposition in Porras, but I am going to do a number on him.

“Lets do it: winner meets winner.

“This isn’t about the publicity, why would I want to get that off the back of you Joe – in my opinion all you get is bad publicity or a mention in the South Wales Argus.

“I genuinely want this fight.”

The Cobra added: “Joe, you say you would smash me. So why then don’t you stop talking rubbish and walk the walk?

“You say my hands are down, you’re right they are - that’s the way I fight. But you are wrong about my chin being in the air. Why don’t you come try and catch it?

“And at least I don’t slap and tickle.

“Once my combinations start landing on your kisser, you are getting KO’d.”

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 20 Apr 2005, 07:42

Well said!

Particularly the bit about JC being one of the reasons SKY is scaling down its coverage

Not a hope in Hells chance that JC will take this fight

Slapsie

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 20 Apr 2005, 07:55

Calzaghe really has become a complete joke nowadays. I sincerely hope this fight gets made and Froch sends the knob into retirement.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Apr 2005, 08:18

I think there's more chance of John Lesllie becoming pope during his lifetime than this fight being made.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 20 Apr 2005, 08:36

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think there's more chance of John Lesllie becoming pope during his lifetime than this fight being made.

No way this fight happens. I dont think Froch is quite ready to be honest but could well spring a surprise.

Calzaghe has nothing to gain from it though if he wins he's beaten a 15 fight novice, if he loses he's ruined. Really dont see him making the fight with that in mind.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 20 Apr 2005, 08:38

Thoroughly enjoyed that from Froch. Joe used to be just like this, only worse in my opinion, because his opposition was worse....and he's still boxing sub-standard opposition to this day!

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 20 Apr 2005, 08:39

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think there's more chance of John Lesllie becoming pope during his lifetime than this fight being made.

I'm not sure its fair to hold up the pope as some sort of beacon of sanctity and purity, given he wore brown shorts in WW2 is it?

Graham Brett · Post by **Graham Brett** » 20 Apr 2005, 09:13

THEBUTCH wrote:Thoroughly enjoyed that from Froch. Joe used to be just like this, only worse in my opinion, because his opposition was worse....and he's still boxing sub-standard opposition to this day!

Froch would do Calzaghe now.

J · Post by J » 20 Apr 2005, 09:17

DavidPayne wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think there's more chance of John Lesllie becoming pope during his lifetime than this fight being made.
I'm not sure its fair to hold up the pope as some sort of beacon of sanctity and purity, given he wore brown shorts in WW2 is it?

that goes for a lot of religious figure heads not just catholic.

very easy to preach you should be pious and humble from a gold plated room, eating peeled grapes.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 20 Apr 2005, 09:26

Whats the story behind the pontif who topped himself on reading scriptures only the residing pope is allowed to view.

The legend goes they tell of the Catholic's church's role as the Devil on earth?

Tony dodson · Post by **Tony dodson** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:36

i have to give it to the guy hes class lmfao what a great interveiw everything he has said is straight to the point joe is a great champ and i would never disrespect him but carl has a good point.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:39

DavidPayne wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think there's more chance of John Lesllie becoming pope during his lifetime than this fight being made.
I'm not sure its fair to hold up the pope as some sort of beacon of sanctity and purity, given he wore brown shorts in WW2 is it?

The current pope defected from the German army because he wanted no part of it, and was taken in by the Americans....

states · Post by **states** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:40

DavidPayne wrote:Whats the story behind the pontif who topped himself on reading scriptures only the residing pope is allowed to view.

The legend goes they tell of the Catholic's church's role as the Devil on earth?

Never heard of that one...... Quick, Dave, get the novel written, before Dan Brown does. £££££££!!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:42

DavidPayne wrote:Whats the story behind the pontif who topped himself on reading scriptures only the residing pope is allowed to view.

The legend goes they tell of the Catholic's church's role as the Devil on earth?

I thought that a pontif was the pope.

It's also a well known fact that Pope Pious refused to denounce the Nazi's during the 2nd world war, and refused to offer sanctuary to the Jews of Italy instead allowing them to be deported to the death camps. Some fornicating piety!

The Catholic church is full of shit, and so is the pope, and I was raised a catholic before anyone says anything.

J · Post by J » 20 Apr 2005, 10:52

i think most religion is but thats my choice, its not hjust catholocism.

where there is blind belief there are people ready to be exploited.

sad but true been going on for thousands of years.

as you can tell i tm not the type for hifdden meaning and too much symbolism, it is what it is, is my motto.

bugger me this place is getting a bit philisophicial aint it.

back to froch slating JC, i must admit i did have a chuckle when i read that.

JC would spank him right now though, too much left in the tank but its warming up nicely for 18 months time.

for my part i think that JC gets correct criticism for his level of opponents but far too much criticism about his skills.

he is still up there for me.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:52

The depressing thing is that you get the feeling Froch feels like he can say what he wants in the knowledge Calzageh isn't going to fight him, what has the boxing world come to.

If Froch beats Pores then he should be in with a good shout for the fight because Pores is the WBO NO. 10. Do you think the WBO would rank froch if he wins that one?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:54

Agreed, I think Joe would outwork and outclass him right now, though perhaps not that easily.

In a year's time or even sooner with the right opponents, I'd give Froch a much better chance.

BunglesFingers · Post by **BunglesFingers** » 20 Apr 2005, 10:58

I'd love to see these two get it on, preferably soon before JC is all washed up (some would say it's too late already).
Personally I think Joe would win but if Froch can beat Porras I may have to change my mind.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 20 Apr 2005, 11:05

Some good points made by Froch.
Calzaghe doesn`t get much good publicity if any in the papers and most of what I do hear about him are very bad local rumours about him that don`t seem to have been picked up by the press yet.

But Froch has yet to fight anybody serious as yet, so he is very much unproven to us.

I think Calzaghe should give him a fight, its a much better match-up than the proposed Magee fight, I do not see the Lacy fight coming off and Kessler isn`t really well known enough quite yet.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 20 Apr 2005, 11:08

So how dose everyone see tomorrow night going and do you think that a win would put froch in any of the rankings

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Apr 2005, 11:08

Well, Kessler does have a belt, but that match has been poo-pooed already, Lacy is there and prepared to travel, so no real excuses there except the usual injury/money not right line.

I get the sneaking suspicion that Calzaghe is more interested in retiring undefeated and making squillions of WBO defences than anything else.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 20 Apr 2005, 11:13

DavidPayne wrote:Whats the story behind the pontif who topped himself on reading scriptures only the residing pope is allowed to view.

The legend goes they tell of the Catholic's church's role as the Devil on earth?

The Pontiff is the Pope. ..so that doesn't quite make sense..

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 20 Apr 2005, 11:15

Loftgroov wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Whats the story behind the pontif who topped himself on reading scriptures only the residing pope is allowed to view.

The legend goes they tell of the Catholic's church's role as the Devil on earth?
The Pontiff is the Pope. ..so that doesn't quite make sense..

It does if you read it. And I know Pontiff and Pope are the same thing essentially......

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 20 Apr 2005, 11:16

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I get the sneaking suspicion that Calzaghe is more interested in retiring undefeated and making squillions of WBO defences than anything else.

he and Ottke can ride off into the sunset together on white horses..... two undefeated champions with not a testical between them

J · Post by J » 20 Apr 2005, 11:21

funny ko funny