Ernie Shavers vs

[yancey]

Max Schmeling
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Joe Frazier

Primes, of course.

What happens?

[dempseyfire]

Loses to all of them but splits fights with Patterson

[yancey]

Loses to all of them but splits fights with Patterson

Well, you may be right, but I think he springs a surprise or two.

I think Schmeling and Patterson are his two most likely victims.

As a Frazier man, I would be a little nervous for the first two rounds or so before I start relaxing. Ernie's right hand does worry me.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Loses to all of them but splits fights with Patterson

Well, you may be right, but I think he springs a surprise or two.

I think Schmeling and Patterson are his two most likely victims.

As a Frazier man, I would be a little nervous for the first two rounds or so before I start relaxing. Ernie's right hand does worry me.

DempseyFire is about right, IMO. There's a clue to how good Shavers was in your own statement --- "he springs a surprise or two," & that's exactly what he'd need to do. Shavers wasn't as good as any of the men on your list.

[yancey]

Loses to all of them but splits fights with Patterson

Well, you may be right, but I think he springs a surprise or two.

I think Schmeling and Patterson are his two most likely victims.

As a Frazier man, I would be a little nervous for the first two rounds or so before I start relaxing. Ernie's right hand does worry me.

DempseyFire is about right, IMO. There's a clue to how good Shavers was in your own statement --- "he springs a surprise or two," & that's exactly what he'd need to do. Shavers wasn't as good as any of the men on your list.

Never thought that Shavers was as good as any of them.

I'm just saying with that big right hand the surprise possibility exists.

Think Ingemar Johannson-Floyd Patterson, 1959, NY, NY.

[BoxBuzz]

Always has the puncher's chance, but I don't see him beating any of them.

Patterson? He just wasn't as precise as Sonny, but if he connected it could happen.

Could be similar to the Floyd Ingemar sessions.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Well, you may be right, but I think he springs a surprise or two.

I think Schmeling and Patterson are his two most likely victims.

As a Frazier man, I would be a little nervous for the first two rounds or so before I start relaxing. Ernie's right hand does worry me.

DempseyFire is about right, IMO. There's a clue to how good Shavers was in your own statement --- "he springs a surprise or two," & that's exactly what he'd need to do. Shavers wasn't as good as any of the men on your list.

Never thought that Shavers was as good as any of them.

I'm just saying with that big right hand the surprise possibility exists.

Think Ingemar Johannson-Floyd Patterson, 1959, NY, NY.

No one is disagreeing with you, & I'm not accusing you of anything.

[Crease]

Shavers loses to all of them, thought there would be a few slugfests in those fights mentioend above.