Skelton vs Williams odds

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 May 2005, 13:11

I know are lot are thinking Williams will win this - well Skelton is the favourite.

Just thought I would let you know.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 19 May 2005, 13:13

Seen the odds when they first were released a week or so ago.. Can't make up my mind on this one though.

Will the skills of Williams win or the brute force of Skelton it's a pick em fight

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 20 May 2005, 05:14

Already put my money on Williams. Also surprised to see him at 11/8 against so I took the price. IMHO Danny should start favourite in this one.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 20 May 2005, 06:45

Chopping Right wrote:Already put my money on Williams. Also surprised to see him at 11/8 against so I took the price. IMHO Danny should start favourite in this one.

and me....I've backed him as well

Danny 11/8
Skelton 8/15

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 20 May 2005, 06:48

I just don't see how Skelton can start this a betting favourite, very surprised by the odds. Danny is pretty tough and skills-wise he must be considered the better fighter surely?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 20 May 2005, 06:55

Skill wise it's no contest, but how many times have we seen Williams underperform? It's a hell of a comedown - from world title to domestic dust up.
He's going to find it hard to get motivated for this one - what does he stand to gain from a win here? Not much really....his own promoter was telling him to retire a few months back.

I think the bookies have it about right...

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 20 May 2005, 06:58

MightyWarrior wrote:Skill wise it's no contest, but how many times have we seen Williams underperform? It's a hell of a comedown - from world title to domestic dust up.
He's going to find it hard to get motivated for this one - what does he stand to gain from a win here? Not much really....his own promoter was telling him to retire a few months back.

I think the bookies have it about right...

The motivation for Danny should be that should he lose this fight he might be effectively finished. As you say a bit of a comedown, his last fight was against the world no 1, now he is faced with career oblivion!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 20 May 2005, 07:01

Chopping Right wrote:
The motivation for Danny should be that should he lose this fight he might be effectively finished. As you say a bit of a comedown, his last fight was against the world no 1, now he is faced with career oblivion!

With heavyweights it's never over till the fat lady sings. Maybe he should get 5 or 6 world title shots, like Bruno or Golota - bound to get it right eventualy.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 20 May 2005, 07:11

True enough, these days a HW is only ever one decent win or a promotional deal away from a big fight.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 21 May 2005, 07:26

I think this depends which Danny turns up. Danny is a fighter good in the gym, but when he turns up in the ring, his confidence can get to him.

I reckon that if he feels too much pressure, and takes his usual 4 rounds to warm up Skelton will swarm him. If Danny turns up focused, it'll be more interesting.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 21 May 2005, 07:54

Thinking about it further when I peg Williams as clear favourite in this fight I'm thinking more about his beating Tyson and forgetting how he lost to Michael Sprott and Julius Francis. Or got battered by another clubbing puncher in Sinan Samil Sam. Maybe those bookies aren't so wrong, I just hope the better Danny turns up that night.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 21 May 2005, 08:25

I pick Skelton, his relentless brute force will overcome the fragile Williams IMO

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 21 May 2005, 08:28

I disagree, the state of the heavyweight devision the winner of this match can easilly come back.

Alot of independent rankings have Williams in the top 15, and I think he is in the top 10 in some of the organisations. A victory here and he can definately move on.

If Skelton wins then of course he will move into roughly Danny's current position.

Even the loser can bounce back providing Sprott wins the EBU title.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 21 May 2005, 12:01

steve689 wrote:I pick Skelton, his relentless brute force will overcome the fragile Williams IMO

That's exactly what I think as well.

JimmyJamJerusalem · Post by **JimmyJamJerusalem** » 21 May 2005, 15:34

Sorry to jump on the bandwaggon, but I agree this fight has got Skeltons name all over it!!!!
He is so oppressive, relentless and brutal! He has a solid chin, and his style takes so much out of opponents. Danny will be over with in 5.
Someone like Herbie Hide would be the type to stop the Skelton show, someone rough and ready who can beat him in the trenches.... but then knowing Herbie he'd probable get disqualified and incite a riot.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 21 May 2005, 17:06

JimmyJamJerusalem wrote:Someone like Herbie Hide would be the type to stop the Skelton show, someone rough and ready who can beat him in the trenches

Now surely you jest....Herbie...trenches...ahem....