Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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HBO prefered to run with Dzinziruk.

But this will be co-main feature due to Dzinziruks lack of name recognition.

Its on March 12 so St. Patricks week but Foxwoods is a bit of a bitch to get to - would be more suited to the Theatre of the MSG

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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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hope sky pick this 1 up lost a bit of lister as lees lost to vera an duddy lost to lylle an chavez jr still a good fight, lee to win wide on points
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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slapbangwhallop wrote:HBO prefered to run with Dzinziruk.

But this will be co-main feature due to Dzinziruks lack of name recognition.

Its on March 12 so St. Patricks week but Foxwoods is a bit of a bitch to get to - would be more suited to the Theatre of the MSG

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Er, I think it would be more suited to Ireland.
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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bennie wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:HBO prefered to run with Dzinziruk.

But this will be co-main feature due to Dzinziruks lack of name recognition.

Its on March 12 so St. Patricks week but Foxwoods is a bit of a bitch to get to - would be more suited to the Theatre of the MSG

:box: :box: :box:

Er, I think it would be more suited to Ireland.
New York is the place to be for St Patricks week (was there myself last year) the city is generally buzzing. Duddy has a history of selling out the Theatre on St. Patricks week against relatively unknown fighters so with Martinez on the bill and a fight against Lee lined up then I think he might have a chance of selling out the main venue.

Plus a fight in Ireland cant bring the HBO money or the exposure. Duddy is a much bigger fighter in the States than in Ireland, Lee has greater name recognition than Duddy at home.
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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Excellent, looking forward to this one :box:
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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George Kimball is saying that both Lee and Duddy are on Foxwoods bill but against separate opponents.
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bennie wrote:George Kimball is saying that both Lee and Duddy are on Foxwoods bill but against separate opponents.
If true is massively takes the shine off my day and probably the card. But still harks well for them fighting next.

Where did he say that?
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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slapbangwhallop wrote:
bennie wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:HBO prefered to run with Dzinziruk.

But this will be co-main feature due to Dzinziruks lack of name recognition.

Its on March 12 so St. Patricks week but Foxwoods is a bit of a bitch to get to - would be more suited to the Theatre of the MSG

:box: :box: :box:

Er, I think it would be more suited to Ireland.
New York is the place to be for St Patricks week (was there myself last year) the city is generally buzzing. Duddy has a history of selling out the Theatre on St. Patricks week against relatively unknown fighters so with Martinez on the bill and a fight against Lee lined up then I think he might have a chance of selling out the main venue.

Plus a fight in Ireland cant bring the HBO money or the exposure. Duddy is a much bigger fighter in the States than in Ireland, Lee has greater name recognition than Duddy at home.
Yep, all true. Would be a perfect fight for NYC.
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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A cracking all-Ireland middleweight showdown between Limerick's Andy Lee and John Duddy of Derry takes place in the States on March 12 (St Patrick's week), scheduled for 10 rounds.
For Lee the fight represents his biggest test of his ability since a disastrous night three years ago when an unfancied Texan by the name of Brian Vera hammered him in seven rounds, also in the States, where southpaw Andy is largely based under the tutelage of Manny Steward. Lee has rebounded well with nine straight wins to take his record to 24-1 (18) but none of his victims really pushed him as he will be pushed by Duddy, an aggressive fighter out of New York who is no Bennie Briscoe and probably past his best but who always puts in a big effort and enjoys plenty of support.
Duddy was outscored in his last fight by Julio Cesar Chavez Junior seven months ago in Texas, having lost a split decision to the unheralded Billy Lyell previously. His unbeaten days well and truly behind him, the 31-year-old Duddy is rested, rusty or close to retirement - take your pick. Lee is undoubtedly the fresher of the two men at 28, the better boxer.
Nevertheless, the early rounds are fraught with danger for Lee as Duddy jumps off the blocks and goes for him. John whacks a bit and I am still unconvinced by Lee, who people assure me is lightning fast, a huge puncher, a gifted boxer, and so on and so forth. I just see a big, strong fighter who whacks a bit himself but lost to the first man who whacked him back, when he proved horribly open - and who hasn't fought anyone since, until now.
Duddy is also easy to hit as he ploughs forward but takes a good shot and will stick it out for the full 10 rounds if necessary, although Lee, the busier man, will do the 10 rounds better, even if he effectively punched himself out against Vera; his stamina has improved since then and his body work slows Duddy.
The fight goes two ways, barring cuts, and both men are bleeders: an early win for Duddy or a decision win for Lee. I plump for the latter outcome.
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Can't see any other result other than a Lee win, either by late stoppage or points.
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Re: Andy Lee - John Duddy set for Martinez-Dzinziruk in Foxwoods

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Slight error in your post, Bennie - Lee is 26, not 28. :TU:
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Deno1986 wrote:Slight error in your post, Bennie - Lee is 26, not 28. :TU:
thats the error you picked out! :D
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:Slight error in your post, Bennie - Lee is 26, not 28. :TU:
thats the error you picked out! :D
What error did you pick out?
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bennie wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:Slight error in your post, Bennie - Lee is 26, not 28. :TU:
thats the error you picked out! :D
What error did you pick out?
Well I know you're not asking me, but the 12th isn't Saint Patrick's week. Your post also gives the impression that Manny Steward is Andy Lee's head trainer, which he isn't. You managed to get your biased depiction of the Vera loss in nice and early which is commendable, and although this bit is only opinion, John Duddy's chance comes late in the fight(if he can get there), not early where Lee will probably control things at range. I also believe a Lee stoppage win is likely.

But besides that you did alright :wink:
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BigEars wrote:
bennie wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote: thats the error you picked out! :D
What error did you pick out?
Well I know you're not asking me, but the 12th isn't Saint Patrick's week. Your post also gives the impression that Manny Steward is Andy Lee's head trainer, which he isn't. You managed to get your biased depiction of the Vera loss in nice and early which is commendable, and although this bit is only opinion, John Duddy's chance comes late in the fight(if he can get there), not early where Lee will probably control things at range. I also believe a Lee stoppage win is likely.

But besides that you did alright :wink:

Accusing me of bias really is the pot...
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bennie wrote:
BigEars wrote:
bennie wrote: What error did you pick out?
Well I know you're not asking me, but the 12th isn't Saint Patrick's week. Your post also gives the impression that Manny Steward is Andy Lee's head trainer, which he isn't. You managed to get your biased depiction of the Vera loss in nice and early which is commendable, and although this bit is only opinion, John Duddy's chance comes late in the fight(if he can get there), not early where Lee will probably control things at range. I also believe a Lee stoppage win is likely.

But besides that you did alright :wink:

Accusing me of bias really is the pot...
Enlighten me then, where have I shown bias ?
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BigEars wrote:
bennie wrote:
BigEars wrote: Well I know you're not asking me, but the 12th isn't Saint Patrick's week. Your post also gives the impression that Manny Steward is Andy Lee's head trainer, which he isn't. You managed to get your biased depiction of the Vera loss in nice and early which is commendable, and although this bit is only opinion, John Duddy's chance comes late in the fight(if he can get there), not early where Lee will probably control things at range. I also believe a Lee stoppage win is likely.

But besides that you did alright :wink:

Accusing me of bias really is the pot...
Enlighten me then, where have I shown bias ?
Where do I start.
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bennie wrote:
BigEars wrote:
bennie wrote:
Accusing me of bias really is the pot...
Enlighten me then, where have I shown bias ?
Where do I start.
eh...err....by pointing out examples of his bias!?

You are quick to throw around accusations of bias whenever an Irish poster considers that an Irish fighter has even the most remote chance of winning a fight or the slightest modicum of talent. In fact an Irish poster must go against every Irish fighter in every fight to avoid accusations of bias on here. Ironically, your posts are some of the most embarrassing on BoxRec, full of inaccuracies or blatant bias - you are not alone in that.

I am not sure if they are opinions that you truly hold or if they are poor attempts at wind-ups but I for one find them tedious and tiresome.

Toodle-pip old chap!
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
bennie wrote:
BigEars wrote: Enlighten me then, where have I shown bias ?
Where do I start.
eh...err....by pointing out examples of his bias!?

You are quick to throw around accusations of bias whenever an Irish poster considers that an Irish fighter has even the most remote chance of winning a fight or the slightest modicum of talent. In fact an Irish poster must go against every Irish fighter in every fight to avoid accusations of bias on here. Ironically, your posts are some of the most embarrassing on BoxRec, full of inaccuracies or blatant bias - you are not alone in that.

I am not sure if they are opinions that you truly hold or if they are poor attempts at wind-ups but I for one find them tedious and tiresome.

Toodle-pip old chap!

Are you leaving us? This must be our lucky day.
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Whats the best way to get to fight?
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bennie wrote:
BigEars wrote:
bennie wrote:
Accusing me of bias really is the pot...
Enlighten me then, where have I shown bias ?
Where do I start.
How about the beginning, ever so often skipping to the end, and then finish in the middle.
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dutchie wrote:Whats the best way to get to fight?
Aer Lingus fly into Boston from Dublin. From Boston it's around 2 hours drive/bus journey to Mashantucket. I just done a quick search on flight prices and it's the bones of €500 return. Greyhound coaches go from the airport in Boston straight to Foxwoods where the fight is on. The coach will cost around $30 e/w.
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Two Irish fighters on an HBO bill...... This will make us more aware of what kind of contract Premier sports have.
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stujones wrote:Two Irish fighters on an HBO bill...... This will make us more aware of what kind of contract Premier sports have.
in what way Stu?
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