British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Rendall Munroe
7. (7.) Matthew Macklin
8. (8.) John Murray
9. (9.) Ryan Rhodes
10. (17.) Jamie McDonnell

11. (10.) Matthew Hatton
12. (11.) Kell Brook
13. (12.) Brian Magee (Irish)
14. (13.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
15. (14.) John Simpson
16. (15.) Kevin Mitchell
17. (16.) Junior Witter
18. (18.) Darren Barker
19. (19.) Jason Booth
20. (20.) Stephen Foster

21. (21.) Gavin Rees
22. (22.) James DeGale
23. (NE.) Danny McIntosh
24. (23.) Willie Casey (Irish)
25. (24.) Stuart Hall
26. (25.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
27. (26.) Andy Lee (Irish)
28. (27.) Dereck Chisora
29. (28.) Stephen Smith
30. (29.) Ola Afolabi

Out - (30.) Sam Webb
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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Another good list Horse :TU:

I would have Booth and Rees higher, Webb in instead of Lee and McDonnell a wee bit lower
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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Surely Stephen Smith is Britain's premier featherweight?
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Not a critcism, just question. How come you include fighters like Andy Lee and Willie Casey in a British list when they are not British in any sense. Ok, Lee was born in London but he is from Limerick and his nationality is Irish. Messrs. Lindsay, McCloskey etc are fine as they are from Northern Ireland and hold BBBofC licenses.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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alexpaterson wrote:Another good list Horse :TU:
Thanks. :TU:
alexpaterson wrote:I would have Booth and Rees higher, Webb in instead of Lee
Booth could be higher and if he beats Arthur this month then I will move him up a fair few places. Rees hasn't really done much recently, so I think him being much higher in the rankings would be too generous.

Webb has fallen out this month because McIntosh entered the rankings, if he wins his next fight he will probably re-enter.

Lee's opposition has been fairly weak recently, so I can understand you thinking he does not deserve a place in the rankings. If he beats McEwan in March then I think he will have clearly earned his place on the list.
alexpaterson wrote:and McDonnell a wee bit lower
McDonnell overtook Witter, Mitchell, Simpson, McCloskey, Magee, Brook and Hatton because:

Witter has been inactive for over 18 months.
Mitchell was destroyed in his last fight and has not achieved anything above British/Commonwealth level.
Simpson has a fairly recent loss against Smith.
McCloskey's recent opposition has been relatively weak.
Magee has only had one opponent in the last 12 months and he wasn't great.
Brook has not reached European level yet.
Hatton hasn't been fighting any of the top domestic fighters in his recent successful run, whereas McDonnell beat Napa who was the No. 1 British Bantamweight at the time.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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ay horse fook off with ur ginger top 30 :!:
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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Chris W 1982 wrote:Surely Stephen Smith is Britain's premier featherweight?
Lindsay was ranked as the No. 1 Featherweight before Simpson beat him, so I think Simpson is No. 1 now.
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george groves??
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Horse wrote:
Chris W 1982 wrote:Surely Stephen Smith is Britain's premier featherweight?
Lindsay was ranked as the No. 1 Featherweight before Simpson beat him, so I think Simpson is No. 1 now.



and smith beat simpson :witzend:
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Wake up call wrote:Not a critcism, just question. How come you include fighters like Andy Lee and Willie Casey in a British list when they are not British in any sense. Ok, Lee was born in London but he is from Limerick and his nationality is Irish. Messrs. Lindsay, McCloskey etc are fine as they are from Northern Ireland and hold BBBofC licenses.
I was not sure which Irish fighters were eligible for the British title, so I decided to include all of them.

I put "(Irish)" next to the Irish fighter's names to indicate that they are Irish.
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hurlock wrote:ay horse fook off with ur ginger top 30 :!:
I don't understand what you mean.
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hurlock wrote:george groves??
I don't think Groves has done enough to earn a place yet.
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diggler wrote:
Horse wrote:
Chris W 1982 wrote:Surely Stephen Smith is Britain's premier featherweight?
Lindsay was ranked as the No. 1 Featherweight before Simpson beat him, so I think Simpson is No. 1 now.
and smith beat simpson :witzend:
Simpson was only the No. 2 ranked Featherweight when Smith beat him and the decision was controversial.
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diggler wrote:
Horse wrote:
Chris W 1982 wrote:Surely Stephen Smith is Britain's premier featherweight?
Lindsay was ranked as the No. 1 Featherweight before Simpson beat him, so I think Simpson is No. 1 now.



and smith beat simpson :witzend:
Except that he didnt. I mean not really. Going to Belfast and dominating Lindsay puts clear blue water between the two. We'll soon have this settled anyway!
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Trojans44 wrote:
diggler wrote:
Horse wrote:Lindsay was ranked as the No. 1 Featherweight before Simpson beat him, so I think Simpson is No. 1 now.



and smith beat simpson :witzend:
Except that he didnt. I mean not really. Going to Belfast and dominating Lindsay puts clear blue water between the two. We'll soon have this settled anyway!
We certainly will :bag:
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2011

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diggler wrote:
Horse wrote:
Chris W 1982 wrote:Surely Stephen Smith is Britain's premier featherweight?
Lindsay was ranked as the No. 1 Featherweight before Simpson beat him, so I think Simpson is No. 1 now.



and smith beat simpson :witzend:
Head to head results aren't the be all end all. Simpson has the more impressive record overall and the Smith fight could have gone either way.

I do think that the gap between them is too big though.
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$wifty wrote:
Trojans44 wrote:
diggler wrote:and smith beat simpson :witzend:
Except that he didnt. I mean not really. Going to Belfast and dominating Lindsay puts clear blue water between the two. We'll soon have this settled anyway!
We certainly will :bag:
So Simpson vs Smith II is going to happen soon then? I would rather Simpson moved on to European level, but Simpson vs Smith II is a good fight as well.
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I have no problem with John Simpson being above myself, he had a good win last time out and the rematch between us is my chance to move up the ratings again :TU:

Yes, purse bids are due on Wednesday for the British and Commonwealth Titles. Date and venue to be confirmed after them.
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crusader wrote:Head to head results aren't the be all end all. Simpson has the more impressive record overall and the Smith fight could have gone either way.

I do think that the gap between them is too big though.
The gap does seem too big, but I can't raise Smith up the rankings until he fights again.
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$wifty wrote:I have no problem with John Simpson being above myself, he had a good win last time out and the rematch between us is my chance to move up the ratings again :TU:

Yes, purse bids are due on Wednesday for the British and Commonwealth Titles. Date and venue to be confirmed after them.
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Reckon the fight has to happen one way or another. Would be nice to see a huge fight for the three titles after John beats Sofiane (sp) but I don't see that happening. Will be interesting to see where Maloney puts on the show in the unlikely event he wins the purse bids.

By the way Swifty- Simpson talks about the fight in this interview:

http://www.secondsout.com/news/main-new ... hn-simpson

Thought you might like to read that the respect you have for him is reciprocated. Refreshing change from the usual pre-fight hype bs. This one doesnt need selling.
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Trojans44 wrote:Reckon the fight has to happen one way or another. Would be nice to see a huge fight for the three titles after John beats Sofiane (sp) but I don't see that happening. Will be interesting to see where Maloney puts on the show in the unlikely event he wins the purse bids.

By the way Swifty- Simpson talks about the fight in this interview:

http://www.secondsout.com/news/main-new ... hn-simpson

Thought you might like to read that the respect you have for him is reciprocated. Refreshing change from the usual pre-fight hype bs. This one doesnt need selling.
Hadnt seen that mate, was a good read. Yes, the respect is definitely mutual and like u say there is no need for me to bad mouth him, the fight should sell itself! If he moves on for the European then I wish him all the best, either way my next fight will be for the British with me being mandatory and the board ordering it so thats my focus right now :TU:
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