Off Topic: Bin Laden Killed by US Forces

[jamesmcdonnell]

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See, he loves his old Ma does hitler, can't be all bad!

[The Lone Wolf]

US Releases Picture Proof of Osama's death

[banjo]

We all know what happened when Megatrons body was dumped in the sea.

[palooka]

US Releases Picture Proof of Osama's death

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

It was a joy to see the American people celebrating when news that Bin Laden was now squid bait filtered through.

There's been so many po-faced people that have called radio stations in the UK pontificating about that, but they need to ask themselves whether they would have celebrated the killing of Adolf Hitler at the end of WW2, or the killing of the top man in the IRA in the 1970s etc.

I have no problems with the fact that many Americans were jubilant about the killing of Bin Laden.

At least they're honest & show their emotions, which is not a bad thing in my book.

They'll hate it if they do a live broadcast from South Yorkshire when Thatcher croaks it......they'll have bunting out in Barnsley.

Any day now...

[palooka]

It was a joy to see the American people celebrating when news that Bin Laden was now squid bait filtered through.

There's been so many po-faced people that have called radio stations in the UK pontificating about that, but they need to ask themselves whether they would have celebrated the killing of Adolf Hitler at the end of WW2, or the killing of the top man in the IRA in the 1970s etc.

I have no problems with the fact that many Americans were jubilant about the killing of Bin Laden.

At least they're honest & show their emotions, which is not a bad thing in my book.

They'll hate it if they do a live broadcast from South Yorkshire when Thatcher croaks it......they'll have bunting out in Barnsley.

Teddy may throw his toupee in the air on such a momentous day; 'Tramp The Dirt Down' anyone?

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

I'm not a muslim, I'm not a muslim lover or a muslim hater.

I thought the whole idea of us going into Iraq and Libya was to free the people and give them democracy. Why didn't they fire non fatal shots, get him out there and put him on trial?

I'm not suppporting the scumbag, I'm just making a point.

Because in a trial he would have said 'I was trained and armed by the CIA for the first 12 years of my terrorism career' which would have made the coalition look stupid - that and you know like Saddam Hussein - he would have faced that noose without any fear at all which was a dire contrast to the cowardly Cowboy Bush. Bullet in the head was the only way to go.

[palooka]

Carlos has a good point there.

As well; I never really got the idea that suicide bombers were cowardly. They've more knackers than me (and that's the women as well).

[Chambers2]

It was a joy to see the American people celebrating when news that Bin Laden was now squid bait filtered through.

There's been so many po-faced people that have called radio stations in the UK pontificating about that, but they need to ask themselves whether they would have celebrated the killing of Adolf Hitler at the end of WW2, or the killing of the top man in the IRA in the 1970s etc.

I have no problems with the fact that many Americans were jubilant about the killing of Bin Laden.

At least they're honest & show their emotions, which is not a bad thing in my book.

They'll hate it if they do a live broadcast from South Yorkshire when Thatcher croaks it......they'll have bunting out in Barnsley.

My Uncle a hundreds of other Miners are going to London to celebrate when Maggie kicks the bucket.

Time is a healer (except with Miners)

[banjo]

Carlos has a good point there.

As well; I never really got the idea that suicide bombers were cowardly. They've more knackers than me (and that's the women as well).

It depends I look at it in two ways, it's quite noble that somebody will be willing to take their own life for something that they believe in, however it is cowardly to take the life of people who want no part of what you believe in.

Then again it also depends on what it is that they believe in.

[palooka]

Is assassination illegal under International Law?

It depends who does it,the U.S have carte blance to assinate anyone under the auspices of counter terrorism

Just the US?

[Coco]

Is assassination illegal under International Law?

It depends who does it,the U.S have carte blance to assinate anyone under the auspices of counter terrorism

Just the US?

I think if any other country did it in the US it would start a war!
The Russians poisoned one of their double agents in London, it caused an international incident and the Russians were heavily criticised for breaking international law etc but no one had the balls to enforce it.

[palooka]

Putin would Judo throw any of the other presidents. He'd do Camaron in a second; Obama may move about a bit but Putin is double hard and no one messes with the KGB.

[banjo]

It depends who does it,the U.S have carte blance to assinate anyone under the auspices of counter terrorism

Just the US?

I think if any other country did it in the US it would start a war!
The Russians poisoned one of their double agents in London, it caused an international incident and the Russians were heavily criticised for breaking international law etc but no one had the balls to enforce it.

That's because the Russians are genuinely insane, not one country in the world would dare to mess with them.

[Coco]

And more importantly they have huge reserves of oil and natural gas!

[Carbo]

Banjo is quite right (and it's not often you'll hear me say that): suicide bombers are, in general, cowards. They view themselves as soldiers in a war against the US, or the west, or liberal ideology, or whatever, and yet I've noticed how often they tend to explode themselves in market places, busy streets, mosques, synagogues, school buses, hotels and other places tightly packed with innocent members of the public.

If they're really soldiers, surely you'd have thought that they'd attack other soldiers. But no, far easier to attack a woman pushing her child in a pram, or a market with housewives picking up bread and vegetables, or an office where fat, sedentary bankers work.

Cowards, yes.

[J]

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[banjo]

Banjo is quite right (and it's not often you'll hear me say that): suicide bombers are, in general, cowards. They view themselves as soldiers in a war against the US, or the west, or liberal ideology, or whatever, and yet I've noticed how often they tend to explode themselves in market places, busy streets, mosques, synagogues, school buses, hotels and other places tightly packed with innocent members of the public.

If they're really soldiers, surely you'd have thought that they'd attack other soldiers. But no, far easier to attack a woman pushing her child in a pram, or a market with housewives picking up bread and vegetables, or an office where fat, sedentary bankers work.

Cowards, yes.

[funso banjo baby]

lets end this thread now by agreeing that this whole non-news is designed to generate 'patriot-rightwing' support for Obama whilst at the same time focusing more hatred and anger at the innocent people of Pakistan (the new afghanistan.)





sorted

now for more boxing

[Coco]

I think Ali summed it up well when he refused to go to Vietnam

No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder kill and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end

[Final round]

the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over.

[Coco]

Lol oh the irony!

[The Lone Wolf]

I think Ali summed it up well when he refused to go to Vietnam

No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder kill and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end

[Carbo]

I think Ali summed it up well when he refused to go to Vietnam

No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder kill and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end

Well, this may sound good when chatting in the student kitchen with your Che Guevara t-shirt-wearing friends, but I think you'll find the world is more complex than that.

First, America, and Britain for that matter, far from hating Pakistan, give it literally billions of dollars in aid money, and help its armed forces with training and other matters. So, like, if I can have an enemy who supposedly hates me but gives me several billions of dollars every year, then I'll have a few, thanks.

Second, this'll be the Pakistan who's intelligence agency, the ISI, was known to be linked with the Mumbai terrorist attack, in which a bunch of irregulars took over a hotel and started spraying people indiscriminately with machine gun fire? Right? Oh, sorry, we're not supposed to mention that, because it wasn't an attack on white folks, so there's no way to claim it was our horrible oppression that caused it.

Third, the ISI pretty much set up, and still funds the Taliban -- an organization, before you start asking what's so wrong with them, that banned music, treated women as chattel, stopped all education beyond learning the Koran, which brutalized and brutalizes still the population of Afghanistan, generally runs a country stuck in the middle ages (except for its own leadership, of course, who lived very well, thank you very much), and so on and so forth. Everyone knew in the intelligence community that if you could put the right pressure on the ISI, or find the right person within the ISI, that you could find Bin Laden pretty quick.

And finally, low and behold, there he was, in Pakistan, right next to a Pakistani military academy. If his compound had been Buckingham Palace, the academy was the Houses of Parliament. He was that close. And like, one day, you get a mysterious compound spring up with huge walls covered with barbed wire, where the people burn, rather then throwing away their rubbish, where they don't really go in our out and get supplies specially delivered, and where kids would lose a football over the walls, and someone would appear at the gates and give the kids money, rather than let them find the ball. Right under the noses of the Pakistani military. Give me a break.

And this ignores the fact that Pakistan developed nuclear weapons, and the guy in charge of that program, AQ Khan, started selling the technology to whoever would pay him. He had such an open, well developed program of nuke tech sales that he even had a brochure which included a 24 hour customer service hotline. Like, "problems with your nuclear weapons program? Call 1-800-AQKHAN". I kid you not.

I'm not saying that this is a reason to invade. I'm just trying to illustrate that the world is a far more complex place than you asininely suggest.

[funso banjo baby]

I think Ali summed it up well when he refused to go to Vietnam

No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder kill and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end

absolutely, there were some brave ones who dared to break the silence of the night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxxeyPBB36c