Johnny Nelson

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 24 Jun 2005, 14:38

Didn't the Sellars and Jones fights take place around the time his family were being threatened? Maybe that would explain his below par performances in these fights.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 24 Jun 2005, 14:41

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I reckon Nelson may well knock Macca out if they fought.

I would be shocked if he didn't, to be honest.

DIRT SUGAR · Post by **DIRT SUGAR** » 24 Jun 2005, 19:26

Johnny's very talented and well preserved but he's no beast is he. Most boring fighter I've ever watched but at the same time one of the most clever. Never takes a risk and the last real live opponent he fought was Carl Thompson.

Was sat watching his fight with that guy... Arias I think his name was and boy - I felt I was lucky I didn't end up in a coma. So groggy by the time the 12th round fight I felt like I'd been jabbed silly/to sleep at the same time.

Then a defence or two ago when he went to Germany and he beat this strong but limited guy (not Rudiger May, one before that) and after the fight he's on his mobile in the ring to allegedly and he says "Not bad for an old git" or something like that and I remember thinking 'yeah but it weren't that great mate was it but hey, it's money in the bank.'

Johnny's too clever a guy to let himself be involved in a drag-down knockout slugfest. A reluctant warrior one might say.

At least in a fight with Macca he may have to put some really bad intentions into his work because Enzo will try and knock his block off.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 24 Jun 2005, 19:32

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I reckon Nelson may well knock Macca out if they fought.

I think Nelson might need to KO Maccirnelli, I don't give Nelson much hope at 38 to keep away for 12 rounds and I do think Nelson's chin is overated - I'm not saying he is chinny, but in recent ears Sellers is the only fight to catch him clean (as noted in the fight commentary) - I think it is his defensive skills and his "fear" of getting smacked in the jobs that has meant he hasn't gone down any other time.

Nelson does have the power to KO Maccrinelli and I would be tempted to go for that scenerio - but I cannot see him him fighting the way he has done recently and not get caught in the 12 rounds vs Enzo.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 24 Jun 2005, 20:25

I think Nelson will box circles around Enzo, who has been fed a bunch of chumps. Enzo will get found out when he starts fighting opponants who have a pulse. Nelson could win by decision, or knock Enzo out. Enzo has a big punch, but he doesn't have a great all round offensive game. He doesn't move that well, he very upright, and there is no great movement.

His stand up straight style has worked up to now against guy's who are there to be hit, but what happens when he faces someone with a decent defense, who can also hit back? He get's knocked out is what.

Nelson should look for a fight with Mormeck. I know it's a longshot, but since Nelson is on the way out, why not? He should at least explore that option, and see what kind of offer may, or may not be on the table.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 24 Jun 2005, 21:25

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I reckon Nelson may well knock Macca out if they fought.

He told me he'd bang him out in 6.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 25 Jun 2005, 05:40

my good friend will win against nelson

young hungry fighter. very underrated. watch this space. 8)

tcwilliams · Post by **tcwilliams** » 27 Jun 2005, 03:20

I like Nelson he needs to fight more like he did in the late 90s,the General will beat all comers

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 27 Jun 2005, 13:26

Riddick Blowe wrote:I've always respected johnny. It's just frustrating that he obviously doesn't care at this point about getting a final, big international fight.

I totally disagree with you here, pal. That's WHY he hasn't been fighting much - he's trying to secure a big pay day. He doesn't really want to take on anyone and everyone - he just wants a couple of big uns. Macca would be a good one.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:44

Nelson will be fighting soon, but it won't be Maccarinelli.
The deal is agreed, it's a just a case of the opponent officially signing up to what has been agreed verbally.
An interesting domestic match up - but with a world title up for grabs.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:54

Kieran wrote:Nelson will be fighting soon, but it won't be Maccarinelli.
The deal is agreed, it's a just a case of the opponent officially signing up to what has been agreed verbally.
An interesting domestic match up - but with a world title up for grabs.

Okay, but don't f@ck about, just drop the name.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2005, 05:53

Kieran wrote:Nelson will be fighting soon, but it won't be Maccarinelli.
The deal is agreed, it's a just a case of the opponent officially signing up to what has been agreed verbally.
An interesting domestic match up - but with a world title up for grabs.

You've really stumped me here.

Its got to be Enzo.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:24

stujones wrote:You've really stumped me here.
Its got to be Enzo.

Maybe not, the post stated it was a domestic match up with a world title up for grabs - Johnny's WBO title.

J · Post by J » 28 Jun 2005, 06:30

NOT HERBIE

states · Post by **states** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:35

Either him or Thompson again then? Who else is there domestically? Haye and Hobson are locked up with each other.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:39

J wrote:NOT HERBIE

Oh please God

J · Post by J » 28 Jun 2005, 06:40

I KNOW.

but he is now a cruiser, haye v hobson taken.

Already said its not enzo, who else? Scott? That would be a shocker as well.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:59

Thompson.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:06

Kieran wrote:Thompson.

I fear a red herring there.

I thought Nelson vs Enzo was practically arranged judging by the way they talking on the Hatton vs Tszyu undercard.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:08

Nelson v Hide would be awful. And I'm not convinced Hide can make 200 straight away I think he'll take 2 or 3 catchweight fights to get down to that. He was about 230 in his last fight.

I imagine both of them would be so tentative it would make for an apalling spectactle.

Instead of that, I propose they face off in a 100 metres backward running contest. Nelson has to be a sure bet for winning that. ;)

J · Post by J » 28 Jun 2005, 07:11

Kieran wrote:Thompson.

really id heard he had hung the gloves up?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:12

J wrote:
Kieran wrote:Thompson.
really id heard he had hung the gloves up?

Thumbs on or off? ;)

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:20

It's not a red herring.
Thompson hasn't jacked it in.
If Thompson is as good as his word, it's on.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:37

Kieran wrote:It's not a red herring.
Thompson hasn't jacked it in.
If Thompson is as good as his word, it's on.

That says a lot about how far Johnny has come since 1999. Still, might be entertaining given the way his chin looked against Sellars.