Who's the most knowledgable on here about training and

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training methods?
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Well, I am trying to lose 60 lbs (5 stone_ before December 1st...
So if anyone can advise me I'd ber really thankful.
If I can do it, me and my girlfriend will be getting engaged.
:OhYes:
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TML is the man to ask. He has the most amazing back muscles.
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Never say that word that needs not to be mentioned... :neutral:
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King Tubby wrote:training methods?
Training for what? There's a big difference between chess, running, mma and being a porn star. All require training though.

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Crease wrote:Well, I am trying to lose 60 lbs (5 stone_ before December 1st...
So if anyone can advise me I'd ber really thankful.
If I can do it, me and my girlfriend will be getting engaged.
:OhYes:
Google HCG.
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Cheers KG. Just going out, I'll PM you later. :TU:
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The most important thing is to train hard and regular. However for weight loss diet is prob 80% of it
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i've lost close to 40ib from my heaviest, basically all i've done is switch to having smaller portions, cutting some snacks and doing 2mile runs 3 times a week
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Would using weights machines for your legs help or hinder your running?
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King Tubby wrote:Would using weights machines for your legs help or hinder your running?
What type of running - sprints, endurance etc?
what kidn of weights? - squats lunges etc?

anyway for sprints as long as you do whatever weights and make it explosive in order to faciliate fast twitch muscles..
edurance running light weights ots ofreps i belive works endurance..
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King Tubby wrote:Would using weights machines for your legs help or hinder your running?
All serious sports professionals such as soccer and tennis players use leg training with weights in order to reduce the risk of injury and build strength. So no. But if you're going to do body building so that your legs look like a weight lifters legs, then of course, you won't be able to run as quickly.

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Crease wrote:Well, I am trying to lose 60 lbs (5 stone_ before December 1st...
So if anyone can advise me I'd ber really thankful.
If I can do it, me and my girlfriend will be getting engaged.
:OhYes:
Crease that's around 28 kilos in 25 weeks. That's one kilo a week. That's pretty hard going. Just doing the maths. Your body needs around 9000kJ to maintain heat, electricity, your heart and digest. If you eat less than that, your body burns it's reserves i.e. fat. One kilo is 35000kJ. So to lose 1 kilo of fat per week, you have to burn around 4000kJ per day. That means going on a 5000kJ per day diet, which is really, really, hard.

To give you an idea, 5000kJ is the following
1000kj - Breakfast - Two pieces of toast, with diet margerine, no topping and 100ml of low fat milk
1000kJ - Lunch - Bread roll, dry, nothing on it + big bowl of salad, no dressing, no cheese, no croutons.
500kJ - Snack - One large apple or large banana
2400kJ - Dinner - One small-medium bowl of pasta with a tomato based source, with a few vegies added.
100kJ - Snack - One decent sized carrot.

That's ok for a week, but long term, that sucks. You can add sport, to increase your calorie/KJal consumption, but 20 minutes of running earns you jsut 1000kJ more to eat.

Doable, but a long hard road.

Good luck.
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Trix - petition for a training forum (at the bottom of all the rest).

It it fails, fvck it off. If not, sound.

I'm just into my training at the mo - I'll get some threads on the go.
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jBacca wrote:Trix - petition for a training forum (at the bottom of all the rest).

It it fails, fvck it off. If not, sound.

I'm just into my training at the mo - I'll get some threads on the go.
I think it has been requested before. The best person to ask would either be Law or John(Shep).
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You just looking to lose weight kt? I've lost about 50kg's over the last 4 years. It's all about dedication.
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Asterix wrote:
jBacca wrote:Trix - petition for a training forum (at the bottom of all the rest).

It it fails, fvck it off. If not, sound.

I'm just into my training at the mo - I'll get some threads on the go.
I think it has been requested before. The best person to ask would either be Law or John(Shep).
I'm going to start a thread for it too so they can see that there is demand.
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Deadendgeneration wrote:You just looking to lose weight kt? I've lost about 50kg's over the last 4 years. It's all about dedication.
Yeah, that's what I'd like to do. How did you manage that?
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Everyone is different. What works for someone will have no effect on someone else and will even injure someone else so taking advice from anyone is pointless unless its a top class personal trainer who has given you a thorough assessment and catered for your specific needs while taking all weaknesses/injuries into consideration. And that's just my opinion I'm no trainer.
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King Tubby wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:You just looking to lose weight kt? I've lost about 50kg's over the last 4 years. It's all about dedication.
Yeah, that's what I'd like to do. How did you manage that?

With a combination of healthy:

Cut out the booze
Ate loads of fruits and veg
No take-away/ junk food


And the unhealthy:

Ate maximum 2 meals a day, 1 of which was always salad or soup. Having lots of small meals is obviously much healthier but I'd never feel full and so would carry on eating until I did.

I lost 40kg's in about 6 months when I was 20. Since then my weight has gradually come down to 85kg's but I'm actually looking at putting on some weight now. It could be my metabolism or whatever but I find it pretty easy to lose and put on weight.
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Andypittcov wrote:Everyone is different. What works for someone will have no effect on someone else and will even injure someone else so taking advice from anyone is pointless unless its a top class personal trainer who has given you a thorough assessment and catered for your specific needs while taking all weaknesses/injuries into consideration. And that's just my opinion I'm no trainer.
Sorry fella, but have to disagree to an extent - take diet for example, I defy anyone on here to follow a paleo routine and not derive benefits. The same is the case for compound movements with free weights such as squats, deadlifts etc and cardio interval training. The idea that someone could be following a routine that is based around the above but it having "no effect" on them is simply not plausible.
Where I do agree is that specific injuries need to be flagged up and accounted for, and routines can obviously be tweaked depending on individual goals - fat loss, building strength etc.
The one thing that most people find hard to accept is that so much of it will be determined by what you eat -any gym time can lead to being pointless or of marginal benefit if you're continuing to eat crap.
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Deserter wrote:
Andypittcov wrote:Everyone is different. What works for someone will have no effect on someone else and will even injure someone else so taking advice from anyone is pointless unless its a top class personal trainer who has given you a thorough assessment and catered for your specific needs while taking all weaknesses/injuries into consideration. And that's just my opinion I'm no trainer.
Sorry fella, but have to disagree to an extent - take diet for example, I defy anyone on here to follow a paleo routine and not derive benefits. The same is the case for compound movements with free weights such as squats, deadlifts etc and cardio interval training. The idea that someone could be following a routine that is based around the above but it having "no effect" on them is simply not plausible.
Where I do agree is that specific injuries need to be flagged up and accounted for, and routines can obviously be tweaked depending on individual goals - fat loss, building strength etc.
The one thing that most people find hard to accept is that so much of it will be determined by what you eat -any gym time can lead to being pointless or of marginal benefit if you're continuing to eat crap.
Not eating can lead to very marginal benifits. I often went to the gym early morning and then skipped breakfast. It will help you lose weight but you will be losing muscle as well as fat.
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@matt___s wrote:
Asterix wrote:
jBacca wrote:Trix - petition for a training forum (at the bottom of all the rest).

It it fails, fvck it off. If not, sound.

I'm just into my training at the mo - I'll get some threads on the go.
I think it has been requested before. The best person to ask would either be Law or John(Shep).
I'm going to start a thread for it too so they can see that there is demand.
The Boxrec training and coaching forum has now been created for you. http://boxrec.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=20

I shall move this thread down there accordingly.
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Deadendgeneration wrote:
Deserter wrote:
Andypittcov wrote:Everyone is different. What works for someone will have no effect on someone else and will even injure someone else so taking advice from anyone is pointless unless its a top class personal trainer who has given you a thorough assessment and catered for your specific needs while taking all weaknesses/injuries into consideration. And that's just my opinion I'm no trainer.
Sorry fella, but have to disagree to an extent - take diet for example, I defy anyone on here to follow a paleo routine and not derive benefits. The same is the case for compound movements with free weights such as squats, deadlifts etc and cardio interval training. The idea that someone could be following a routine that is based around the above but it having "no effect" on them is simply not plausible.
Where I do agree is that specific injuries need to be flagged up and accounted for, and routines can obviously be tweaked depending on individual goals - fat loss, building strength etc.
The one thing that most people find hard to accept is that so much of it will be determined by what you eat -any gym time can lead to being pointless or of marginal benefit if you're continuing to eat crap.
Not eating can lead to very marginal benifits. I often went to the gym early morning and then skipped breakfast. It will help you lose weight but you will be losing muscle as well as fat.
But who's suggesting not eating? I was talking about eating the right things rather than the wrong things, not changing volume of intake.
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Deserter wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Deserter wrote: Sorry fella, but have to disagree to an extent - take diet for example, I defy anyone on here to follow a paleo routine and not derive benefits. The same is the case for compound movements with free weights such as squats, deadlifts etc and cardio interval training. The idea that someone could be following a routine that is based around the above but it having "no effect" on them is simply not plausible.
Where I do agree is that specific injuries need to be flagged up and accounted for, and routines can obviously be tweaked depending on individual goals - fat loss, building strength etc.
The one thing that most people find hard to accept is that so much of it will be determined by what you eat -any gym time can lead to being pointless or of marginal benefit if you're continuing to eat crap.
Not eating can lead to very marginal benifits. I often went to the gym early morning and then skipped breakfast. It will help you lose weight but you will be losing muscle as well as fat.
But who's suggesting not eating? I was talking about eating the right things rather than the wrong things, not changing volume of intake.
Sorry I was talking from personal experience.
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