Burns v Katsidis
Burns v Katsidis
Im hoping to go to this as im in scotland for a wedding but im not sure burns has a chance against the great katsidis any thoughts ?
Re: Burns v Katsidis
It's at Wembley Arena mate.
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Misread that then didnt i doh!! cheers pal do you fancy.his chances ?
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No I don't, I think Katsidis is too big for him (light welter v.s a super feather.) and too powerful.
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ShadrachSimmo
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Re: Burns v Katsidis
Burns is quite a big guy too though certainly getting too big for 9st 4. Katsidis will probably start favourite and rightly so but if Burns using his boxing skills he can pull it off. Gutted it's not in Scotland mind ye.
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billy nelson
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Re: Burns v Katsidis
Mate your going to be shocked when you see the size of Ricky @ Lightweight there wont be much in it at all size wise, but thee il be in the speed and skill dept, Ricky by late stoppage or clear points imoyid14 wrote:No I don't, I think Katsidis is too big for him (light welter v.s a super feather.) and too powerful.
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I hope you're right Billy. Great fight to watch. IF burns can avoid the big punches i think he wins the fight easily, big IF though.billy nelson wrote:Mate your going to be shocked when you see the size of Ricky @ Lightweight there wont be much in it at all size wise, but thee il be in the speed and skill dept, Ricky by late stoppage or clear points imoyid14 wrote:No I don't, I think Katsidis is too big for him (light welter v.s a super feather.) and too powerful.
I must say, i think its the right time to fight Katsidis though, could end up very clever match making
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Hope your rightbilly nelson wrote:Mate your going to be shocked when you see the size of Ricky @ Lightweight there wont be much in it at all size wise, but thee il be in the speed and skill dept, Ricky by late stoppage or clear points imoyid14 wrote:No I don't, I think Katsidis is too big for him (light welter v.s a super feather.) and too powerful.
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Burns is more skillful than Katsidis and if it goes to point he will get the decision, but Katsidis is a dangerous fighter and has a chance of knocking Ricky out. I think Burns will win on points though
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if burns can summon up another big effort - as with martinez - then he can win an exciting fight. i wouldn't give him too much credit, because as aguy whose held a world title he is supposed to face world class guys, and katsidis has been losing to most world class fighters, though he did demolish kevin mitchell (who is all the way back, it seems now).
hope it works out for burns. because, aside from the controversy of not facing the challenge of that guy at super feather who KO'd litzau and edged de leon, a burns win could get guys like mitchell, murray, crolla, or whatever talented british lightweight, into the mix for good reward.
better than fights with a shot cook, and commonwealth-type challengers, for certain.
shades of mitchell-prescott, getting a guy who has grown big at the weight and already decided to move up (to light welter), to come back down...katsidis may be drained and cook - perhaps gaining strength - may have some crucial extra vitality...
hope it works out for burns. because, aside from the controversy of not facing the challenge of that guy at super feather who KO'd litzau and edged de leon, a burns win could get guys like mitchell, murray, crolla, or whatever talented british lightweight, into the mix for good reward.
better than fights with a shot cook, and commonwealth-type challengers, for certain.
shades of mitchell-prescott, getting a guy who has grown big at the weight and already decided to move up (to light welter), to come back down...katsidis may be drained and cook - perhaps gaining strength - may have some crucial extra vitality...
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Katsidis is the favourite and rightly so reallyCardiff-Lad1 wrote:In terms of betting - Anyone think that burns will be the bookies favourite??
I remember when Katsidis fought Mitchell and i'm sure the odds were close but that mitchell was slight odds on favourite......someone somewhere would have made a considerable amount of money that night!
best price Katsidis 8/11 with betfred
best price burns 6/4 paddy power
looking forward to it but unless Katsidis has slipped he should have too much power, Martinez shook Ricky a fair bit and Katsidis punches harder than him for me and is also a better fighter than Rocky Martinez in my view
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Katsidis wins this 9 times out of 10. Burns hasn't thought any one near the calibre of Katsidis argubaly may be Martinez who put him down in the 1st.
Katsidis is relentless, and unfortunately I see Burns getting a pasting that won't last any more than 5 rounds.
Katsidis is relentless, and unfortunately I see Burns getting a pasting that won't last any more than 5 rounds.
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ShadrachSimmo
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Re: Burns v Katsidis
I had Katsidis, Chisora and Hall all to win by stoppage on a treble that night but Hall ended up fighting Maxwell as a late replacement and i got the double i think.Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:In terms of betting - Anyone think that burns will be the bookies favourite??
I remember when Katsidis fought Mitchell and i'm sure the odds were close but that mitchell was slight odds on favourite......someone somewhere would have made a considerable amount of money that night!
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Hagler2002
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I got on the Katsidis KO/TKO win @ 2/1 & 9/10 outright! Xmas came early.Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:I did check Oddschecker too but stopped at 5th Novemeber coz i thought that was the date of the fight but have rechecked and Oddschecker have the fight listed correctly as 12th November. My Bad!GLOBALBOX wrote:Katsidis is the favourite and rightly so reallyCardiff-Lad1 wrote:In terms of betting - Anyone think that burns will be the bookies favourite??
I remember when Katsidis fought Mitchell and i'm sure the odds were close but that mitchell was slight odds on favourite......someone somewhere would have made a considerable amount of money that night!
best price Katsidis 8/11 with betfred
best price burns 6/4 paddy power
looking forward to it but unless Katsidis has slipped he should have too much power, Martinez shook Ricky a fair bit and Katsidis punches harder than him for me and is also a better fighter than Rocky Martinez in my view
Thanks for this though!
Katsidis via stoppage looks tasty @ 13/8
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I fancy burns to win on points - his win over martinez showed he can outbox a world class puncher.
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Hagler2002
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Comparing Martinez and Katsidis is ludicrous!kingfinn wrote:I fancy burns to win on points - his win over martinez showed he can outbox a world class puncher.
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yeah thats true martinez was number 1 in the division and a world champion and Katsidis is ranked 15th and never held a major title.Hagler2002 wrote:Comparing Martinez and Katsidis is ludicrous!kingfinn wrote:I fancy burns to win on points - his win over martinez showed he can outbox a world class puncher.
Well burns should win easily then.
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Can`t wait for this, just brought my ticket.I hope Burns can pull this off,but it will be a tough ask.Groves should beat Smith hopefully,but i think Smith could put in a career best performance to make it interesting.
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Hagler2002
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Yeah of course he shouldkingfinn wrote:yeah thats true martinez was number 1 in the division and a world champion and Katsidis is ranked 15th and never held a major title.Hagler2002 wrote:Comparing Martinez and Katsidis is ludicrous!kingfinn wrote:I fancy burns to win on points - his win over martinez showed he can outbox a world class puncher.
Well burns should win easily then.
The Aussie will walk straight through him, the same way he did with Kevin Mitchell.
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I dont need to look at their records - Katsidis has been in the ring with some great fighters - and been beaten by them all. Beating Kevin Mitchell doesnt impress that many people world wide. Martinez was a bonafide world champion an the divisions number 1. I think its fair to put the two in the same league as each other.Hagler2002 wrote:Yeah of course he shouldkingfinn wrote:yeah thats true martinez was number 1 in the division and a world champion and Katsidis is ranked 15th and never held a major title.Hagler2002 wrote: Comparing Martinez and Katsidis is ludicrous!
Well burns should win easily then.Take a look at the Martinez record and then Katsidis's and come back and spout the same shíte. Who cares about rankings and titles with so many available.
The Aussie will walk straight through him, the same way he did with Kevin Mitchell.
Blue highlight = sarcasm!
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nelsoninfour
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I have tried these doubles before not been allowed as the outcome is determined by the otherHagler2002 wrote:I got on the Katsidis KO/TKO win @ 2/1 & 9/10 outright! Xmas came early.Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:I did check Oddschecker too but stopped at 5th Novemeber coz i thought that was the date of the fight but have rechecked and Oddschecker have the fight listed correctly as 12th November. My Bad!GLOBALBOX wrote: Katsidis is the favourite and rightly so really
best price Katsidis 8/11 with betfred
best price burns 6/4 paddy power
looking forward to it but unless Katsidis has slipped he should have too much power, Martinez shook Ricky a fair bit and Katsidis punches harder than him for me and is also a better fighter than Rocky Martinez in my view
Thanks for this though!
Katsidis via stoppage looks tasty @ 13/8
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Is this fight on November 12th or November 5th. On Frank Warrens website (well the original allegedly announcement) it says 5th - yet on here, on many betting sites it has it down as 12th.
Anyone ITK?
Anyone ITK?
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Amazed at how many people are giving Burns such a serious chance in this one...
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lets be honest FW wouldnt be making the fight if he thought he was going to loose he's not going to risk his world champion. Although it didnt help in the mitchell fight but he did then admit he had hardly trained and had never operated at world class levels.Deserter wrote:Amazed at how many people are giving Burns such a serious chance in this one...
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Like someone said above, I've got a feeling this might be a good time to fight Katsidis. At least its a meaningful fight.