Who's the most knowledgable on here about training and

[Deserter]

Not eating can lead to very marginal benifits. I often went to the gym early morning and then skipped breakfast. It will help you lose weight but you will be losing muscle as well as fat.

But who's suggesting not eating? I was talking about eating the right things rather than the wrong things, not changing volume of intake.

Sorry I was talking from personal experience.

Ah, I get you

[Crease]

Crease that's around 28 kilos in 25 weeks. That's one kilo a week. That's pretty hard going.

Thanks for the support Conan.

I've returned to a boxing gym, where I go Mon, Wed and Fri ever week. Typically, I would do an aerobic warm-up.... 2 mile on the tread mill (5 mph for 24 mins), light weights (3 series of 25 reps each arm)

And typically 10 rounds on the Heavy bag.

And press-ups and sti-ups that I;ve been doing anyway.

[Bricks]

Well, I am trying to lose 60 lbs (5 stone_ before December 1st...
So if anyone can advise me I'd ber really thankful.
If I can do it, me and my girlfriend will be getting engaged.

wow the big day is soon? i can help u do it. Please pm me and i will give u some revealing information borne of my 20 years training and still being ripped.

[Kilsby]

For losing weight, Replace bread with crumpets, potato cakes etc. Have cereals for breakfast (non suger ones) try to eat eggs as they speed up your metabolism, try to eat jacket spuds & lots of lean (non battered) fish.

Generally don't eat after 7pm, cut down on pints & replace then with Vodka & Cokes or bottles (but don't drink twice as much!) try to stay in rounds with your pint drinking mates.

& try to do a bit of exercise!

Job done.

[TempleSlave]

Well, I am trying to lose 60 lbs (5 stone_ before December 1st...
So if anyone can advise me I'd ber really thankful.
If I can do it, me and my girlfriend will be getting engaged.

Crease that's around 28 kilos in 25 weeks. That's one kilo a week. That's pretty hard going. Just doing the maths. Your body needs around 9000kJ to maintain heat, electricity, your heart and digest. If you eat less than that, your body burns it's reserves i.e. fat. One kilo is 35000kJ. So to lose 1 kilo of fat per week, you have to burn around 4000kJ per day. That means going on a 5000kJ per day diet, which is really, really, hard.

To give you an idea, 5000kJ is the following
1000kj - Breakfast - Two pieces of toast, with diet margerine, no topping and 100ml of low fat milk
1000kJ - Lunch - Bread roll, dry, nothing on it + big bowl of salad, no dressing, no cheese, no croutons.
500kJ - Snack - One large apple or large banana
2400kJ - Dinner - One small-medium bowl of pasta with a tomato based source, with a few vegies added.
100kJ - Snack - One decent sized carrot.

That's ok for a week, but long term, that sucks. You can add sport, to increase your calorie/KJal consumption, but 20 minutes of running earns you jsut 1000kJ more to eat.

Doable, but a long hard road.

Good luck.

A kilo per week is very doable. All my clients who train with me regularly and do what I tell them regarding diet, achieve results like this or better.

[Deserter]

A kilo per week is very doable. All my clients who train with me regularly and do what I tell them regarding diet, achieve results like this or better.

Share...(please!)

[TempleSlave]

A kilo per week is very doable. All my clients who train with me regularly and do what I tell them regarding diet, achieve results like this or better.

Share...(please!)

There you go:
Actually it's a no-brainer, it's very much about being consistent and not making mistakes. Needless to say, this is a very general outline. Every training/nutritional plan should be designed individually and ideally also supervised by an experienced and qualified health and fitness professional.

Training: 4x/week hard weight regime - whole body, compound exercises, giant sets (rep range 10-15), short (30-60sec) rests between sets. Must be sweaty and challenging, failure should be reached in every set.

Sleep: 8 hours every night.
Diet (for meat eaters only, sorry): 5-6 small meals a day, in every one of them protein (lean, unprocessed meat/poultry/fish), portion of veg, portion of (low g.i.) fruit. Lots of water. No grains (until you're sub 10% b.f.), no legumes, no refined sugar, no dairy, no processed foods.
Weigh yourself and test body fat% once a week, always at the same time (for example Monday morning). If you're not losing weight or losing it too slow just strip every meal of some calories. If weight losing is going well, one meal (not day) a week can be a cheat-meal.
More at
http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

Now, I know it may sound like just one more miracle diet, but it's not. It's a lifetime way of eating - you can carry on forever. You may ignore the theoretical background of it, the most important premise is nutritional density of everything you consume.
This way of eating will also make you feel equally energetic through the day - no more midday energy slumps :)

[Deserter]

A kilo per week is very doable. All my clients who train with me regularly and do what I tell them regarding diet, achieve results like this or better.

Share...(please!)

There you go:
Actually it's a no-brainer, it's very much about being consistent and not making mistakes.
Training: 4x/week hard weight training: whole body, compound exercises, giant sets (rep range 10-15), short (30-60sec) rests between sets. Must be sweaty and challenging, failure should be reached in every set.
Needless to say - this is a very general outline. Every training plan should be designed individually and ideally also supervised by an experienced and qualified health and fitness professional.
Sleep: 8 hours every night.
Diet (for meat eaters only, sorry): 5-6 small meals a day, in every one of them protein (lean, unprocessed meat/poultry/fish), portion of veg, portion of (low g.i.) fruit. Lots of water. No grains (until you're sub 10% b.f.), no legumes, no refined sugar, no dairy, no processed foods.
Weigh yourself and test body fat% once a week, always at the same time (for example Monday morning). If you're not losing weight or losing it too slow just strip every meal of some calories. If weight losing is going well, one meal (not day) a week can be a cheat-meal.
More at
http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

Now, I know it may sound like just one more miracle diet, but it's not. It's a lifetime way of eating - you can carry on forever. You may ignore the theoretical background of it, the most important premise is nutritional density of everything you consume.
This way of eating will also make you feel equally energetic through the day - no more midday energy slumps :)

Agree with everything you say

[jet]

very interesting reading some of thease posts. i have a fighter , who loses wieght in 1st 2wks of training, sticks to his diet, but stops losing wieght. there is fat on his body to come off, Any ideas???

[dberry]

very interesting reading some of thease posts. i have a fighter , who loses wieght in 1st 2wks of training, sticks to his diet, but stops losing wieght. there is fat on his body to come off, Any ideas???

google hcg diet.

[TempleSlave]

very interesting reading some of thease posts. i have a fighter , who loses wieght in 1st 2wks of training, sticks to his diet, but stops losing wieght. there is fat on his body to come off, Any ideas???

You can try fish oils in big dosages- 1g per 1% of body fat a day, in 3 portions.

[Poncey]

Jet, which sport?

[jet]

pro boxing poncey. Thanks for your suggestion temple

[zojo]

I just realized that this forum was placed on boxrec. I am sorry if it looks like I am spamming this Training & Coaching forum.

Anywho, there are actually a lot of informative people who post here in boxrec. Ask a question and I am sure you'll get some good answers.

As for me, I have almost zero experience in boxing (just a fan since I was a kid), but would like to read about some training activities from the guys with experience here.

I have been a wrestling coach for about 15 years. I worked as a personal trainer during when we first started having kids so I could make some money staying home with the kids.

[Deserter]

I just realized that this forum was placed on boxrec. I am sorry if it looks like I am spamming this Training & Coaching forum.

Anywho, there are actually a lot of informative people who post here in boxrec. Ask a question and I am sure you'll get some good answers.

As for me, I have almost zero experience in boxing (just a fan since I was a kid), but would like to read about some training activities from the guys with experience here.

I have been a wrestling coach for about 15 years. I worked as a personal trainer during when we first started having kids so I could make some money staying home with the kids.

Funnily enough I've come the opposite route in some respects - boxed as an am but only recently exposed to wrestling through involvement in MMA and have developed a serious level of respect for the sport in terms of the athleticism and dedication on display

[zojo]

I just realized that this forum was placed on boxrec. I am sorry if it looks like I am spamming this Training & Coaching forum.

Anywho, there are actually a lot of informative people who post here in boxrec. Ask a question and I am sure you'll get some good answers.

As for me, I have almost zero experience in boxing (just a fan since I was a kid), but would like to read about some training activities from the guys with experience here.

I have been a wrestling coach for about 15 years. I worked as a personal trainer during when we first started having kids so I could make some money staying home with the kids.

Funnily enough I've come the opposite route in some respects - boxed as an am but only recently exposed to wrestling through involvement in MMA and have developed a serious level of respect for the sport in terms of the athleticism and dedication on display

[dajuggernaut]

If anyone here needs running tips/advice/questions feel free to ask me. I'm a former high school runner and I coached for a year before I went off to college. I'm by no means an expert but I've learned a lot from great coaches around me that I would be happy to share.

[mark a h]

very interesting reading some of thease posts. i have a fighter , who loses wieght in 1st 2wks of training, sticks to his diet, but stops losing wieght. there is fat on his body to come off, Any ideas???

You would have to list his diet and exc regime before i could comment

also anyone needing advice on training programmes for fighters esp boxers. Conditioning for all atheletes. strength training ,weightlifting. let me know. i beleive i have the qualificatiins experience and enviroment to help.