Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Who wins?
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
Larry was already showing signs of decline is 83. His lackluster performance against Witherspoon had him contemplating retirement.
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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I don't remember '83 Holmes too well, as I had lost a considerable amount of interest in boxing at that time.

But '75 Frazier was in swift decline and I would reckon '83 Larry to win on points.

'75 Frazier would have to have some intense dislike for his opponent in order to mount a huge effort and as far as I know Larry and Joe were always okay with each other.
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Holmes was a little past his prime - Frazier, a LOT past his.

Id favour Holmes.
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Holmes wins. Smokin Joe by '75 was finished.
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
This is the way I see the fight also
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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ThatOne wrote:
Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
Larry was already showing signs of decline is 83. His lackluster performance against Witherspoon had him contemplating retirement.
83 Holmes may have slowed down some-what, but his skills had nowhere eroded as much as Frazier's in 1975, no way.

Frazier's vision was impaired going into every fight by then, & his last great performance was against Ali in Manilla. The fact it was Ali in the corner meant Frazier trained his arse off for the fight & got in the best shape he could possibly get in.
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Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

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Rocky Balboa wrote:
ThatOne wrote:
Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
Larry was already showing signs of decline is 83. His lackluster performance against Witherspoon had him contemplating retirement.
83 Holmes may have slowed down some-what, but his skills had nowhere eroded as much as Frazier's in 1975, no way.

Frazier's vision was impaired going into every fight by then, & his last great performance was against Ali in Manilla. The fact it was Ali in the corner meant Frazier trained his arse off for the fight & got in the best shape he could possibly get in.

Well said. '75 Frazier got it up for Ali and gave a tremendous performance, but he was essentially a shell of the '69-'70 version.
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