Welliver VS De Mori

[Totalpac]

IMO Mark on points.

Don't think Chauncy is quick enough to catch deMori consistenly enough to be a worry and although Mark obviously hasn't been in the ring for a long time I think the new version of Mark will stay fast and quick for the whole distance.

I agree Chauncy's strengths are his durability and cardio for a big guy, just think Mark can out cardio him whilst staying quicker.

Maybe after November 12? I know Mark is keen to get another in before the year ends.

[crusader]

I'll go with Welliver. De Mori has been nothing but hype and let downs.

[NZ Fighter]

Looking at the quality of opponents. Chauncy has just racked up win #50 against Rob Calloway while Mark racked up 7 of 16wins against guys either on their debut or had never won a fight.
Come to think of it the way Chauncy has improved I wouldnt be surprised if he stopped Mark Demori. He has kept very active in the last year against expereinced opponents with winning records and stopped 5/6. I have no doubt would be a great fight to watch.

[Brute]

I doubt they will fight anyway. Welliver has been fighting mostly in the USA lately with two fights in China. I doubt the money on offer in New Zealand would encourage him to fight there considering the purses he would have earned in the last couple of years.

[franko1990]

It appears De Mori is fighting Matt Hicks on November 20. Hick's record is not flash but he has lost to a couple of decent fighters. I'm just hoping this fight comes off because it would be great to see De Mori in the ring again after so long
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

[convict]

Its great to see Mark getting a fight that If i am not wrong is now promoting himself.
I still believe De Mori beats Welliver, But with Welliver's current run why would you want to ask De Mori for a fight? Shouldn't you be calling out bums with a name like Oliver McCall, Francois Botha or Michael Grant for fights, Would help with your WBO rating to beat oldies like them.

[crusader]

The current versions of McCall, Botha, and Grant are all better than De Mori, who has done nothing worth mentioning and lost to or drawn with very poor opponents.

[Brute]

He only lost one fight and that was early in his career.

No Kiwi or Yank ever beat him.

[crusader]

De Mori hasn't fought any decent Kiwis or Yanks, and I'd be quite surprised if he beat more than one of the fighters to whom convict ascribed the status of 'bum.'

[colin russell]

Great if we get to see Mark fight again but franko1990who are the decent fighters that Hicks has fought latey.? Still will be great to see Mark back in the ring and hopefully promoting himself.

[Brute]

De Mori hasn't fought any decent Kiwis or Yanks, and I'd be quite surprised if he beat more than one of the fighters to whom convict ascribed the status of 'bum.'

With Tua retired and Cameron dropped to cruiserweight, what decent Kiwi heavyweights are there?

[Craig14]

De Mori hasn't fought any decent Kiwis or Yanks, and I'd be quite surprised if he beat more than one of the fighters to whom convict ascribed the status of 'bum.'

With Tua retired and Cameron dropped to cruiserweight, what decent Kiwi heavyweights are there?

Kali Meehan

[Brute]

De Mori hasn't fought any decent Kiwis or Yanks, and I'd be quite surprised if he beat more than one of the fighters to whom convict ascribed the status of 'bum.'

With Tua retired and Cameron dropped to cruiserweight, what decent Kiwi heavyweights are there?

Kali Meehan

Kali is a Fijian by birth.

[Craig14]

With Tua retired and Cameron dropped to cruiserweight, what decent Kiwi heavyweights are there?

Kali Meehan

Kali is a Fijian by birth.

Are you sure? I think you'll find he was born in the same country as former Australian Heavyweight champion Colin Wilson.

[franko1990]

Great if we get to see Mark fight again but franko1990who are the decent fighters that Hicks has fought latey.? Still will be great to see Mark back in the ring and hopefully promoting himself.

I never said anything about lately but IMO BJ Flores is a decent fighter, and not that I know anything about him but David Rodriguez has a nice record and has won a couple of North American regional titles plus has a win over Owen "what the heck" Beck.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

[Craig14]

Great if we get to see Mark fight again but franko1990who are the decent fighters that Hicks has fought latey.? Still will be great to see Mark back in the ring and hopefully promoting himself.

I never said anything about lately but IMO BJ Flores is a decent fighter, and not that I know anything about him but David Rodriguez has a nice record and has won a couple of North American regional titles plus has a win over Owen "what the heck" Beck.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Don't be silly he's lemon, by the sounds of things a tubby one at that. He's been knocked out by anybody he's faced with abit of a name and hasn't beaten anybody with a winning record. Surely they could of found somebody who would have been equally competative down on the nearest building site.

[franko1990]

Great if we get to see Mark fight again but franko1990who are the decent fighters that Hicks has fought latey.? Still will be great to see Mark back in the ring and hopefully promoting himself.

I never said anything about lately but IMO BJ Flores is a decent fighter, and not that I know anything about him but David Rodriguez has a nice record and has won a couple of North American regional titles plus has a win over Owen "what the heck" Beck.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Don't be silly he's lemon, by the sounds of things a tubby one at that. He's been knocked out by anybody he's faced with abit of a name and hasn't beaten anybody with a winning record. Surely they could of found somebody who would have been equally competative down on the nearest building site.

I'm not saying he is great I agree he's not the best but he is a good fight for a guy coming back after such along layoff.

[convict]

I think we would all like to see this fight for one reason or another, But lets face it Welliver should be fighting either have beens like Botha and co to increase his WBO rating or putting his hand up for a fight with Robert Helenius.
Welliver Vs Helenius for the WBO inter-cont belt makes more sense at this point of time (03-12-2011 ???). With Helenius bad habit of dropping that hand of his when someone gets in close, Im sure Welliver could do well there and punish him for it.

Anyway that's my 5c worth.

[Brute]

Kali Meehan

Kali is a Fijian by birth.

Are you sure? I think you'll find he was born in the same country as former Australian Heavyweight champion Colin Wilson.

His parents were Fijian. If he was born in New Zealand they did not stay there long. Some of the birth claims on Boxrec are a bit dodgy. Solomon Haumona was supposed to have been born in New Zealand but his father fought in Australia within a few days of his birth.

[Craig14]

Kali is a Fijian by birth.

Are you sure? I think you'll find he was born in the same country as former Australian Heavyweight champion Colin Wilson.

His parents were Fijian. If he was born in New Zealand they did not stay there long. Some of the birth claims on Boxrec are a bit dodgy. Solomon Haumona was supposed to have been born in New Zealand but his father fought in Australia within a few days of his birth.

When it comes to Soloman Haumonas dad I don't think it would matter that he fought in Aussie a few days later because I reckon it was probably his mum that gave birth to him. But Yeah since I wrote about Meehans birthplace I've been trying to find out aswell, Boxrec and wikipedia both have him down as being born in N.Z, but when I've typed in his name on google it comes up saying he was born in Fiji and I've never really been sure.

[Brute]

Are you sure? I think you'll find he was born in the same country as former Australian Heavyweight champion Colin Wilson.

His parents were Fijian. If he was born in New Zealand they did not stay there long. Some of the birth claims on Boxrec are a bit dodgy. Solomon Haumona was supposed to have been born in New Zealand but his father fought in Australia within a few days of his birth.

When it comes to Soloman Haumonas dad I don't think it would matter that he fought in Aussie a few days later because I reckon it was probably his mum that gave birth to him. But Yeah since I wrote about Meehans birthplace I've been trying to find out aswell, Boxrec and wikipedia both have him down as being born in N.Z, but when I've typed in his name on google it comes up saying he was born in Fiji and I've never really been sure.

Maile Haumona had a fight with Young Sekona in May 1975 in New Zealand. He was back in Australia before the end of the year. I doubt he would have taken his wife to new Zealand to have a child in October 1975.

Meehan fought amateurs and a few prelims in New Zealand before settling here in 1998 but Islanders do get around a lot.

[crusader]

De Mori hasn't fought any decent Kiwis or Yanks, and I'd be quite surprised if he beat more than one of the fighters to whom convict ascribed the status of 'bum.'

With Tua retired and Cameron dropped to cruiserweight, what decent Kiwi heavyweights are there?

If Kali is not included then I'm not sure, but if there are some decent Kiwi's De Mori hasn't beaten them. In fact, De Mori hasn't beaten any decent fighter, regardless of where they are from. I have nothing against him, but I think he is overrated.

[Brute]

He has beaten three Americans, two of them over there.

The other was Ed Mahone, who some people on this board had a wrap on.

[Chauncy]

The beauty to this topic is he can fight both... I'm an American by birth, and New Zealander legally.

I really do think me and Mark would make a great fight. Mark is good but I feel 100% at the top of my game and think I could beat him. I see many people differ, but thats the beauty to boxing, we will all eventually fin out.

Cheers

[buster007]

chauncy,

u may not be the greatest ever, but i still think mark would be better off fighting a few ordinary fighters fairly close together before fighting someone like you, considering he has been inactive for 2 years. he needs to get the ring rust out of his system first imo.

but soon after, yeah, make it happen.