Smoking Joe Frazier close to death
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thepocketrocket
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flatnoseflynn
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Very sad news all the best JOE FRAZIER great champ!
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keithmoonhangover
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I met him in Gateshead when I was a kid and he was a great guy. 
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Very sad, great individual as well as a great fighter, true champion in a great era.
God bless champ
God bless champ
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Sad news.
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Floatlikeabutterfly
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Very Sad, was a true great only this morning watched Ali-Frazier1, what a left hook, god bless him ![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
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Hagler2002
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I met him earlier this year, he was very fragile and hard to understand.
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ThereByTheGrace
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Sad news, my thoughts are with the great man.
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I did lose my respect for Frazier over the years with some of the vicious and vulgar things he said about Ali like wanting him to fall into the fire when he was lighting the Olympic flame or mocking him about his Parkinsons but that's all set aside when you read something like this and hopefully Joe will pull through as he's a born fighter.
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thepocketrocket
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I think a lot of those comments were brought on by Ali's shitty treatment of Frazier...but as you said, this trancends all that bollocks....all thoughts to Joe and family.
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Old bones Ian
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Just hope the great man doesn't suffer too much. Thoughts are with his family
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This is teribble news! Cancer is a fornicating beast. Took my mum and is currently taking my father. I feel for Frazier and his family. I am not a religious person but I'll be saying a prayer for the great man tonight.
Always thought that my heroes would last forever.
Always thought that my heroes would last forever.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Saw a documentary about Joe frazier recently, was very sad, he looked old, frail, was very bitter, virtually broke, and living almost forgotten above his derelict gym.
Whilst Ali was lionised, Frazier was largely left in his wake and that is quite sad considering what he achieved.
Whilst Ali was lionised, Frazier was largely left in his wake and that is quite sad considering what he achieved.
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During Ali's exile Frazier supported him, even gave him money. Ali repaid him with degrading insults that hurt Joe for years. Frazier was a great fighter and great man. No bullshit with him. C'mon Joe, one last rally!
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No that's not quite true and the re-writing of history lately has been appalling but again this is not the time and hopefully Frazier pulls through.Ketchel wrote:During Ali's exile Frazier supported him, even gave him money. Ali repaid him with degrading insults that hurt Joe for years. Frazier was a great fighter and great man. No bullshit with him. C'mon Joe, one last rally!
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Sadly, his manager has confirmed the news on the BBC. Joe is in a Hospice.
Hoping for a miracle, keep fighting Smokin Joe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15610020
Hoping for a miracle, keep fighting Smokin Joe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15610020
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Ketchel wrote:During Ali's exile Frazier supported him, even gave him money. Ali repaid him with degrading insults that hurt Joe for years. Frazier was a great fighter and great man. No bullshit with him. C'mon Joe, one last rally!
Ya know, it is not Ali's fault that Joe has such a low intelligence level and did not understand how to play the game which made their rivalry one of the biggest of all time and probably doubled what each earned in the fights. The insults cranked up the appeal of the fight and Joe should have let them bounce off and seen the game Ali was playing. It was tactics to increase the appeal of the fight and also a tactic to get under his skin and get an advantage.
However, Joe always seems a great chap and a legend of the sport, having a low level of intelligence is not surprising given his background and is no crime at all and takes nothing away from what a great champion he was.
Very upsetting news for him, his friends and family
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keithmoonhangover
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All those insults that Ali threw at Frazier help promote their purses and made Joe a lot of money. Although I do think Ali did step over the line some of the time.Ketchel wrote:During Ali's exile Frazier supported him, even gave him money. Ali repaid him with degrading insults that hurt Joe for years. Frazier was a great fighter and great man. No bullshit with him. C'mon Joe, one last rally!
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Great Fighter, Great man, Great role model to those kids out there. He got off his arse and made something of his life from nothing. He didnt moan, he didnt badmouth, he just got on with it. real fighter, real man.
Keep punching champ.
Keep punching champ.
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I couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't try.McCannW14 wrote:Great Fighter, Great man, Great role model to those kids out there. He got off his arse and made something of his life from nothing. He didnt moan, he didnt badmouth, he just got on with it. real fighter, real man.
Keep punching champ.
Legend!
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Joe is actually an intelligent man, and has very high peronal standards and morals. Joe is not the most articulate, and you are confusing this with intelligence.tobyh5 wrote:Ketchel wrote:During Ali's exile Frazier supported him, even gave him money. Ali repaid him with degrading insults that hurt Joe for years. Frazier was a great fighter and great man. No bullshit with him. C'mon Joe, one last rally!
Ya know, it is not Ali's fault that Joe has such a low intelligence level and did not understand how to play the game which made their rivalry one of the biggest of all time and probably doubled what each earned in the fights. The insults cranked up the appeal of the fight and Joe should have let them bounce off and seen the game Ali was playing. It was tactics to increase the appeal of the fight and also a tactic to get under his skin and get an advantage.
However, Joe always seems a great chap and a legend of the sport, having a low level of intelligence is not surprising given his background and is no crime at all and takes nothing away from what a great champion he was.
Very upsetting news for him, his friends and family
When the man is fighting for his life in a hospice, your post is really quite disgraceful.
If toddays fighters carried themselves like Frazier did Boxing would be all the better for it. Unfortunatley, a lot of them over hype themselves and talk absolute trash, which is a legacy that Frazier will never leave.
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Floatlikeabutterfly
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McCannW14 wrote:Joe is actually an intelligent man, and has very high peronal standards and morals. Joe is not the most articulate, and you are confusing this with intelligence.tobyh5 wrote:Ketchel wrote:During Ali's exile Frazier supported him, even gave him money. Ali repaid him with degrading insults that hurt Joe for years. Frazier was a great fighter and great man. No bullshit with him. C'mon Joe, one last rally!
Ya know, it is not Ali's fault that Joe has such a low intelligence level and did not understand how to play the game which made their rivalry one of the biggest of all time and probably doubled what each earned in the fights. The insults cranked up the appeal of the fight and Joe should have let them bounce off and seen the game Ali was playing. It was tactics to increase the appeal of the fight and also a tactic to get under his skin and get an advantage.
However, Joe always seems a great chap and a legend of the sport, having a low level of intelligence is not surprising given his background and is no crime at all and takes nothing away from what a great champion he was.
Very upsetting news for him, his friends and family
When the man is fighting for his life in a hospice, your post is really quite disgraceful.
If toddays fighters carried themselves like Frazier did Boxing would be all the better for it. Unfortunatley, a lot of them over hype themselves and talk absolute trash, which is a legacy that Frazier will never leave.
Spot on, had the pleasure and honour of meeting the great man earlier this year, a true legend of our sport
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I agree, a tremendous champion and apparently one heck of a guy. My prayers are with him and his family. I am just remarking on someone else's comment about how Ali treated him.
But yeah, not the time to say it. I hope Joe has adequate pain relief and if this is the end, it is not protracted. Go quietly and with dignity is what the man deserves.
But yeah, not the time to say it. I hope Joe has adequate pain relief and if this is the end, it is not protracted. Go quietly and with dignity is what the man deserves.
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If only there was a HW out there like Joe Frazier today. Great man.