allegedly is brilliant? (merged)

[maninthemiddle]

Love the story, but £150 for a pro or £10 for a months boxing....now there's a quandary.
So far I think its been great value. I have my likes and dislikes in the "team" but overall a good show at least every fortnight has been delivered and good overseas action. If they continue down this road I'll happily pay the equivalant of 1 night at the cinema or 3 pints of beer.

[maninthemiddle]

Rawling is garbage, Bunce annoy me and would Allegedly Channel please get some researchers so their staff stop making some school boy errors?

Amazingly I think some of these have come from Steve Lillis (who should know better!):
Prior to Donaire v Narvaez:
"Narvaez has never fought outside of Argentina" (He'd fought in France and Italy)
"Should they have let Narvaez out of Argentina earlier?" (They let him out of Argentina as early as 2002)
"Can Narvaez carry his power up, he has stopped 19 guys before" (Narvaez wasn't a power puncher at 115 so what power did they expect him to carry up to 118? He'd stopped 1 of his previous 6 opponents)

Talking about Chavez Jr:
"Chavez has defended his title once against Ryan Rhodes" (He'd also defended against Gomez)

During highlights of Glazkov v Peret:
"Peret fought Tyson Fury in a kilt" (It was Marcel Zeller who fought in a kilt)

During Melendez v Bahktin:
"I'd award Bahktin 120 points" (It was a 10 round fight)

Talking about Katsidis:
"Katsidis lost on points to Marquez" (Nope Marquez stopped him in the 9th round)

Talking after the Molitor fight:
"Get Quigg in with Molitor it'll get him a world ranking" (Quigg is ranked by 3 of the world bodies already)

Talking about Bute:
"The Super 6, these were all well known names, Bute weren't" (Bute was a hell of a lot more well known than Ward or Dirrell and was on par with Froch)


Whilst these are only little things they add up and you sort of wonder if they just say any old crap thinking everyone ill go "they know what they are talking about"

And theres more!!

[iamasadlittleboy]

Yup, like when they called Bradley v Cote an "All Canadian" fight, it's become almost a fun game to spot what cock ups they make. It's just not good for professional journalists in the sport to be making such errors.

And thats with out mentioning Bunce's rant about Syllahk.

[Final round]

Back in the mid-90s, I went to a brothel in Moscow. Anyway there were the most amazing girls you have ever seen strutting around the bar area serving 'free' drinks, sitting on your knee telling you how hot you were making them; we are talking genuine stunners barely wearing a stitch - heaven. So, two or three drinks in, one of the girls says "you want to have sex?". I say "Of course I do, how much?" She says "3000 rubles to the bar, 3000 rubles upstairs (I can't remember the exact figure, it ended up being about £150)". I thought that it sounded expensive but to get my dick wet in her, it was worth it...

So, she walks me over to the bar and I hand the chick there (also essence) 3000 rubles. The other girls says, "now we go upstairs". She grabbed my hand and leads me to the stairs, she then walked up them and I was just staring at her arse and almost creaming my kecks in anticipation. We get to the top of the stairs, she takes my hand again and walks to a door. She says "3000 for the room", I get my cash out and hand it to her. She opens the door and says "you go in there and get ready". She gives me this little wave and a peck on the lips. I went into the room, took my strides off, had a look in the mirror to make sure I was looking the dogs bollocks and then the door opened...

A middle-aged, fat, hag who looked like she'd just been brought in from a 14 hour shift picking spuds somewhere came tramping in. She looked like a cross between Jo Brand and Joe Stalin, only her tash was more impressive than Stalin's. I still shagged her as I'd paid for the service and the blokes minding the place probably didn't do refunds but I did feel a trifle duped and the experience was beyond lacklustre, albeit a good learning experience. Paying for stuff up front solely on the basis of a free sample put forward by those doing the selling is a dangerous practice.

HAha great story, though bet you felt properly mugged. Easily could happen though in one of those big brothels

[Yorkshiresuperstar]

Needs to be in HD!

Great channel, garbage picture quality! I pay a tenner a month for HD so want my fave chanel in that option :(

[NazNaci1]

Rawling is garbage, Bunce annoy me and would Allegedly Channel please get some researchers so their staff stop making some school boy errors?

Amazingly I think some of these have come from Steve Lillis (who should know better!):
Prior to Donaire v Narvaez:
"Narvaez has never fought outside of Argentina" (He'd fought in France and Italy)
"Should they have let Narvaez out of Argentina earlier?" (They let him out of Argentina as early as 2002)
"Can Narvaez carry his power up, he has stopped 19 guys before" (Narvaez wasn't a power puncher at 115 so what power did they expect him to carry up to 118? He'd stopped 1 of his previous 6 opponents)

Talking about Chavez Jr:
"Chavez has defended his title once against Ryan Rhodes" (He'd also defended against Gomez)

During highlights of Glazkov v Peret:
"Peret fought Tyson Fury in a kilt" (It was Marcel Zeller who fought in a kilt)

During Melendez v Bahktin:
"I'd award Bahktin 120 points" (It was a 10 round fight)

Talking about Katsidis:
"Katsidis lost on points to Marquez" (Nope Marquez stopped him in the 9th round)

Talking after the Molitor fight:
"Get Quigg in with Molitor it'll get him a world ranking" (Quigg is ranked by 3 of the world bodies already)

Talking about Bute:
"The Super 6, these were all well known names, Bute weren't" (Bute was a hell of a lot more well known than Ward or Dirrell and was on par with Froch)


Whilst these are only little things they add up and you sort of wonder if they just say any old crap thinking everyone ill go "they know what they are talking about"

Don't wish to make a point out of nothing but speaking of accuracy, wasn't it Canelo who fought Rhodes and Gomez?

[iamasadlittleboy]

Rawling is garbage, Bunce annoy me and would Allegedly Channel please get some researchers so their staff stop making some school boy errors?

Amazingly I think some of these have come from Steve Lillis (who should know better!):
Prior to Donaire v Narvaez:
"Narvaez has never fought outside of Argentina" (He'd fought in France and Italy)
"Should they have let Narvaez out of Argentina earlier?" (They let him out of Argentina as early as 2002)
"Can Narvaez carry his power up, he has stopped 19 guys before" (Narvaez wasn't a power puncher at 115 so what power did they expect him to carry up to 118? He'd stopped 1 of his previous 6 opponents)

Talking about Chavez Jr:
"Chavez has defended his title once against Ryan Rhodes" (He'd also defended against Gomez)

During highlights of Glazkov v Peret:
"Peret fought Tyson Fury in a kilt" (It was Marcel Zeller who fought in a kilt)

During Melendez v Bahktin:
"I'd award Bahktin 120 points" (It was a 10 round fight)

Talking about Katsidis:
"Katsidis lost on points to Marquez" (Nope Marquez stopped him in the 9th round)

Talking after the Molitor fight:
"Get Quigg in with Molitor it'll get him a world ranking" (Quigg is ranked by 3 of the world bodies already)

Talking about Bute:
"The Super 6, these were all well known names, Bute weren't" (Bute was a hell of a lot more well known than Ward or Dirrell and was on par with Froch)


Whilst these are only little things they add up and you sort of wonder if they just say any old crap thinking everyone ill go "they know what they are talking about"

Don't wish to make a point out of nothing but speaking of accuracy, wasn't it Canelo who fought Rhodes and Gomez?

Tocuhé I think I got fed up of being picky by that point >_>

[dondada]

Back in the mid-90s, I went to a brothel in Moscow. Anyway there were the most amazing girls you have ever seen strutting around the bar area serving 'free' drinks, sitting on your knee telling you how hot you were making them; we are talking genuine stunners barely wearing a stitch - heaven. So, two or three drinks in, one of the girls says "you want to have sex?". I say "Of course I do, how much?" She says "3000 rubles to the bar, 3000 rubles upstairs (I can't remember the exact figure, it ended up being about £150)". I thought that it sounded expensive but to get my dick wet in her, it was worth it...

So, she walks me over to the bar and I hand the chick there (also essence) 3000 rubles. The other girls says, "now we go upstairs". She grabbed my hand and leads me to the stairs, she then walked up them and I was just staring at her arse and almost creaming my kecks in anticipation. We get to the top of the stairs, she takes my hand again and walks to a door. She says "3000 for the room", I get my cash out and hand it to her. She opens the door and says "you go in there and get ready". She gives me this little wave and a peck on the lips. I went into the room, took my strides off, had a look in the mirror to make sure I was looking the dogs bollocks and then the door opened...

A middle-aged, fat, hag who looked like she'd just been brought in from a 14 hour shift picking spuds somewhere came tramping in. She looked like a cross between Jo Brand and Joe Stalin, only her tash was more impressive than Stalin's. I still shagged her as I'd paid for the service and the blokes minding the place probably didn't do refunds but I did feel a trifle duped and the experience was beyond lacklustre, albeit a good learning experience. Paying for stuff up front solely on the basis of a free sample put forward by those doing the selling is a dangerous practice.

[Gazmac81]

x2 above Post

a story im sure a few can relate too

[earsjohn]

Back in the mid-90s, I went to a brothel in Moscow. Anyway there were the most amazing girls you have ever seen strutting around the bar area serving 'free' drinks, sitting on your knee telling you how hot you were making them; we are talking genuine stunners barely wearing a stitch - heaven. So, two or three drinks in, one of the girls says "you want to have sex?". I say "Of course I do, how much?" She says "3000 rubles to the bar, 3000 rubles upstairs (I can't remember the exact figure, it ended up being about £150)". I thought that it sounded expensive but to get my dick wet in her, it was worth it...

So, she walks me over to the bar and I hand the chick there (also essence) 3000 rubles. The other girls says, "now we go upstairs". She grabbed my hand and leads me to the stairs, she then walked up them and I was just staring at her arse and almost creaming my kecks in anticipation. We get to the top of the stairs, she takes my hand again and walks to a door. She says "3000 for the room", I get my cash out and hand it to her. She opens the door and says "you go in there and get ready". She gives me this little wave and a peck on the lips. I went into the room, took my strides off, had a look in the mirror to make sure I was looking the dogs bollocks and then the door opened...

A middle-aged, fat, hag who looked like she'd just been brought in from a 14 hour shift picking spuds somewhere came tramping in. She looked like a cross between Jo Brand and Joe Stalin, only her tash was more impressive than Stalin's. I still shagged her as I'd paid for the service and the blokes minding the place probably didn't do refunds but I did feel a trifle duped and the experience was beyond lacklustre, albeit a good learning experience. Paying for stuff up front solely on the basis of a free sample put forward by those doing the selling is a dangerous practice.

Exactly.

Looking at potential headliners within Warrens stable - who is likely to be out in December and January, say?

Dereck Chisora - Fighting on Friday according to his twitter, so won't be out again
Cleverly and Bellew - Just fought a tough fight so cant see either of them turning round that quick
Degale - As per Cleverly and Bellew
Groves - Possible given that it wasn't a particularly tough nights work against Smith, but can't see it being too tough an opponent on reduced notice.
Billy Joe Saunders - could see him in a run out for something like a UK title eliminator or similar level in January but not before
Jamie Cox - due to rematch Sai, but that's not too mouthwatering a prospect as a headline attraction
Frankie Gavin - well documented personal problems are likely to keep him out of the ring for a good while
Ricky Burns - just fought
John Murray - fighting on Dec 3rd
Kevin Mitchell - Legal problems may keep him out, but could feasibly have a filler before a world title crack in Spring
Liam Walsh - Fought at beginning of Sept, so could easily see him again
Lee Selby / John Simpson - due to fight next week

Given there is nothing on the schedule domestically bar the fights mentioned and Crolla v Limond, unless Warren plans on winning every domestic purse bid, there's going to be a pretty spartan schedule because one promotional group simply doesn't have the numbers to support a 2-card a week schedule.

Even counting foreign cards doesn't make the schedule much more mouth watering.

There's Cotto v Margarito and Rios v Murray, which is a decent night, but the following week while Khan fights on Prime Time, allegedly potentially have Wlad v Mormeck. 17th December is Froch v Ward on Sky and then xmas kicks in. So I can't see what fights can be used to make a subscription enticing.

[leforge]

Back in the mid-90s, I went to a brothel in Moscow. Anyway there were the most amazing girls you have ever seen strutting around the bar area serving 'free' drinks, sitting on your knee telling you how hot you were making them; we are talking genuine stunners barely wearing a stitch - heaven. So, two or three drinks in, one of the girls says "you want to have sex?". I say "Of course I do, how much?" She says "3000 rubles to the bar, 3000 rubles upstairs (I can't remember the exact figure, it ended up being about £150)". I thought that it sounded expensive but to get my dick wet in her, it was worth it...

So, she walks me over to the bar and I hand the chick there (also essence) 3000 rubles. The other girls says, "now we go upstairs". She grabbed my hand and leads me to the stairs, she then walked up them and I was just staring at her arse and almost creaming my kecks in anticipation. We get to the top of the stairs, she takes my hand again and walks to a door. She says "3000 for the room", I get my cash out and hand it to her. She opens the door and says "you go in there and get ready". She gives me this little wave and a peck on the lips. I went into the room, took my strides off, had a look in the mirror to make sure I was looking the dogs bollocks and then the door opened...

A middle-aged, fat, hag who looked like she'd just been brought in from a 14 hour shift picking spuds somewhere came tramping in. She looked like a cross between Jo Brand and Joe Stalin, only her tash was more impressive than Stalin's. I still shagged her as I'd paid for the service and the blokes minding the place probably didn't do refunds but I did feel a trifle duped and the experience was beyond lacklustre, albeit a good learning experience. Paying for stuff up front solely on the basis of a free sample put forward by those doing the selling is a dangerous practice.

Exactly.

Looking at potential headliners within Warrens stable - who is likely to be out in December and January, say?

Dereck Chisora - Fighting on Friday according to his twitter, so won't be out again
Cleverly and Bellew - Just fought a tough fight so cant see either of them turning round that quick
Degale - As per Cleverly and Bellew
Groves - Possible given that it wasn't a particularly tough nights work against Smith, but can't see it being too tough an opponent on reduced notice.
Billy Joe Saunders - could see him in a run out for something like a UK title eliminator or similar level in January but not before
Jamie Cox - due to rematch Sai, but that's not too mouthwatering a prospect as a headline attraction
Frankie Gavin - well documented personal problems are likely to keep him out of the ring for a good while
Ricky Burns - just fought
John Murray - fighting on Dec 3rd
Kevin Mitchell - Legal problems may keep him out, but could feasibly have a filler before a world title crack in Spring
Liam Walsh - Fought at beginning of Sept, so could easily see him again
Lee Selby / John Simpson - due to fight next week

Given there is nothing on the schedule domestically bar the fights mentioned and Crolla v Limond, unless Warren plans on winning every domestic purse bid, there's going to be a pretty spartan schedule because one promotional group simply doesn't have the numbers to support a 2-card a week schedule.

Even counting foreign cards doesn't make the schedule much more mouth watering.

There's Cotto v Margarito and Rios v Murray, which is a decent night, but the following week while Khan fights on Prime Time, Allegedly channel potentially have Wlad v Mormeck. 17th December is Froch v Ward on Sky and then xmas kicks in. So I can't see what fights can be used to make a subscription enticing.

Wlad is on Sky! I was thinking the same as you who will be rushed out in December. There not enough time have a big fight for Dec 10th.

[IRLangmaid25]

It is early days with allegedly and I have been impressed with what I have seen so far but still think there is room for improvement and I do agree that they need to better research on some fighters etc and I like the idea of taking questions via Twitter. I would not have brought in Richard Keys personally as one of the presenters and I would have just stuck with Andy Kerr and Jim Rosenthal as they know their stuff about the fight game, but then again it's personal opinion. John Rawling's is a good experienced commentator and I have been impressed with Enzo Mac as a pundit and I prefer him to Duke McKenzie as Mac has more recent ring experience in comparison to McKenzie in my opinion

[Flump]

The first few weeks have been great, Rawling is ok by current standards, Enzo has been a mini revelation, it's great that they show almost the full card too and the overseas action has been very welcome.

But I won't subscribe, no chance. This sort of thing will make boxing even more of a minority sport than it has already become, and the fighters will be virtual unknowns because the casual fan will never see them. If a fighter spends his career on allegedly how will anybody outside of the hardcore fans even hear of him? I like watching Snooker now and then but I wouldn't pay a tenner a month to watch it.

And you have to worry about editorial content, will Buncey and the boys have someone's hand up their back forcing them to try and convince everyone that the usual domestic level WBO title fight is actually the real deal? Once you've paid up is it back to the usual mismatches and bogus titles? Too many negatives for me.

[Achybreaky]

Paying an extra tenner a month for fights that should be on skysports anyway? load of old bollox with biased commentaries and having to listen to Ennnnzzoo macccarenelli drawing out every syllable.. no chance.

[jamielaststand2011]

Does anyone know the size of the contract for this?
It says get 6 months for the price of 5 on the website. If its a 6 month contract and not a year I think I will subscribe.

[whiskey]

Yup, like when they called Bradley v Cote an "All Canadian" fight, it's become almost a fun game to spot what cock ups they make. It's just not good for professional journalists in the sport to be making such errors.

And thats with out mentioning Bunce's rant about Syllahk.

Coté is actually a columbian too.

Hence the power.

[Gazmac81]

i thought it was a farce and disrespectful when Interviewing Burns at end off the show
they start shouting over to someone called Bill while Ricky is explaining the fight.

Bunceys giving this guy the thumbs up too

[Gazmac81]

i had mates that were sitting in the house with sky and didnt even know this was on
till i explained to them the next day.

one of my mates has Virgin and i advsied him to get it online
he says the online stream was very good

How many casual fans even know this channel exisits? I had to tell mates about fight so it going to struggle!

[Deno1986]

I reckon I will. I subscribe to Setanta at the moment and they basically put eff all on that interests me so I'll can them.

Setanta is getting dropped kicked by me too. I never even watch it. Originally I was all against this new channel but it has been impressive so far, some top fights and the older fights are shown all week.

[gobbles]

Either Groves or DeGale will headline in December (probably the 10th).

Another show due on Dec 16, it was supposed to be Chisora if he beat War Machine.

[leforge]

Either Groves or DeGale will headline in December (probably the 10th).

Another show due on Dec 16, it was supposed to be Chisora if he beat War Machine.

The Dec 10th show is only a month away think its late in the day to get good opponent in. If Degale it be Sanavia Italian who his mandatory. Will Groves fans go again in month time, very soon after last fight.

[leforge]

Either Groves or DeGale will headline in December (probably the 10th).

Another show due on Dec 16, it was supposed to be Chisora if he beat War Machine.

The Dec 10th show is only a month away think its late in the day to get good opponent in. If Degale it be Sanavia Italian who his mandatory. Will Groves fans go again in month time, very soon after last fight.

Theres gonna be a 'big' FW show on 17th Dec according to a few people. God knows which of FW's fighters will be on it though coz they're either due to fight before then, or have fought recently.

That is off the allegedly schedule now.

[leforge]

Theres gonna be a 'big' FW show on 17th Dec according to a few people. God knows which of FW's fighters will be on it though coz they're either due to fight before then, or have fought recently.

That is off the Allegedly Channel schedule now.

Yeah - I saw that but Bunce and Groves both said on Saturday to basically watch out for 17th Dec so perhaps the show is still on....... doubt it though since there will be no headlining act that i can see happening from his stable.

The week before xmas can't see that selling well. Too late in the month.

[iamasadlittleboy]

Think they will pick up Cloud v Erdei for Dec 31st/Jan 1st?

[earsjohn]

Think they will pick up Cloud v Erdei for Dec 31st/Jan 1st?

Don't care much for that fight but isn't Ramos v Rigondeaux on the undercard? That should be worth a watch.