no bugger knows about this channel apart from us hardcore boxing fans. its going to fall flat on its face imo. a bit of ingenuity would help, make it a general fightsport channel, add a bit of mma kickboxing, and whammo, you get more subscribers. not enough fights on for me to justify paying..and there is no confirmation whether you are tied into a deal or not..
bad mamma jamma wrote:no bugger knows about this channel apart from us hardcore boxing fans. its going to fall flat on its face imo. a bit of ingenuity would help, make it a general fightsport channel, add a bit of mma kickboxing, and whammo, you get more subscribers. not enough fights on for me to justify paying..and there is no confirmation whether you are tied into a deal or not..
I find this view (not just your's) strange.
Why would they spend money on a big advertising campaign before they started charging?
Surely better to get the thing running, sort out problems with things like Virgin, and advertise ahead of big fights in the same way they would for a PPV.
bad mamma jamma wrote:no bugger knows about this channel apart from us hardcore boxing fans. its going to fall flat on its face imo. a bit of ingenuity would help, make it a general fightsport channel, add a bit of mma kickboxing, and whammo, you get more subscribers. not enough fights on for me to justify paying..and there is no confirmation whether you are tied into a deal or not..
I find this view (not just your's) strange.
Why would they spend money on a big advertising campaign before they started charging?
Surely better to get the thing running, sort out problems with things like Virgin, and advertise ahead of big fights in the same way they would for a PPV.
i disagree..surely its better to ensure you are going to get the viewers, who after all are will be financing the channel via their subs, before launching? they are gambling on people knowing about the channel. did they do any research beforehand? none that I have seen or heard about. i am surpirsed that allegedly is involved with such a keystone cop arrangement
Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:Updated FAQ from B o x nation -
Minimum sign up is 6 MONTHS!!!!!! and you subscribe directly through Allegedly channel, not Sky or Virgin. problems written all over it :(
Frequently asked questions
Allegedly channel launches on the 1st of December, our first live fight being Cotto vs. Margarito on the 3rd of December.
Ahead of the channel’s launch, we’ve put together the following list frequently asked questions and their answers. If there’s anything else you need to know, please send us an email, at enquiries@Allegedly channel.co.uk, or get in touch through Twitter (@allegedly).
1. When does the channel become subscription only?
Allegedly channel becomes a subscription only service on the 1st of December 2011.
2. When will Allegedly channel be live on Virgin Media?
The channel launches on Sky and Virgin platforms on the same date – the 1st of December 2011. We'll be on channel 546 - Click here for full story.
3. What will it cost? –
Subscription will cost £10 a month.
4. How do I subscribe? -
You will be able to subscribe through this website from Wednesday 30th November.
5. Is Allegedly channel going to be available in the Republic of Ireland? -
Yes, Allegedly channel will be available in the Republic of Ireland from the 1st of December.
6. Is there a HD offering?
There are plans to develop a HD offering - date to be confirmed.
7. Can I watch fights online?
We are unfortunately unable to show any more fights online as we’re focusing on the Sky/Virgin launch at the moment. There is however, exciting news on online viewing coming soon!
8. What’s the minimum contract length?
The minimum contract is 6 months.
9. I’ve registered online, what’s next?
You'll be sent updates in the run up to the channel's launch. We'll send you an email to let you know as soon as we're taking subscriptions through the site.
Good news on Ireland, potentially good news on HD and not so good news on online. With a minimum contract length of 6 months, I wonder if that means an upfront payment of £60 or being able to set up a direct debit for a monthly payment?
Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:Updated FAQ from B o x nation -
Minimum sign up is 6 MONTHS!!!!!! and you subscribe directly through Allegedly channel, not Sky or Virgin. problems written all over it :(
Frequently asked questions
Allegedly channel launches on the 1st of December, our first live fight being Cotto vs. Margarito on the 3rd of December.
Ahead of the channel’s launch, we’ve put together the following list frequently asked questions and their answers. If there’s anything else you need to know, please send us an email, at enquiries@Allegedly channel.co.uk, or get in touch through Twitter (@allegedly).
1. When does the channel become subscription only?
Allegedly channel becomes a subscription only service on the 1st of December 2011.
2. When will Allegedly channel be live on Virgin Media?
The channel launches on Sky and Virgin platforms on the same date – the 1st of December 2011. We'll be on channel 546 - Click here for full story.
3. What will it cost? –
Subscription will cost £10 a month.
4. How do I subscribe? -
You will be able to subscribe through this website from Wednesday 30th November.
5. Is Allegedly channel going to be available in the Republic of Ireland? -
Yes, Allegedly channel will be available in the Republic of Ireland from the 1st of December.
6. Is there a HD offering?
There are plans to develop a HD offering - date to be confirmed.
7. Can I watch fights online?
We are unfortunately unable to show any more fights online as we’re focusing on the Sky/Virgin launch at the moment. There is however, exciting news on online viewing coming soon!
8. What’s the minimum contract length?
The minimum contract is 6 months.
9. I’ve registered online, what’s next?
You'll be sent updates in the run up to the channel's launch. We'll send you an email to let you know as soon as we're taking subscriptions through the site.
Thats me definatly out. You'd be better going on a monthly basis- updating your schedule reguarly and letting people decide if they want to pay or not each month.
Thats me definatly out. You'd be better going on a monthly basis- updating your schedule reguarly and letting people decide if they want to pay or not each month.
I'll catch it by other means
Are they asking for six months up front or to sign on to pay for six months but actually pay for it monthly?
The Dark Destroyer wrote:
Are they asking for six months up front or to sign on to pay for six months but actually pay for it monthly?
i'd imagine the latter
Whether you pay 6 months up front or have to pay monthly for a minimum 6 months isn't the issue for me, its the fact that you have no idea about the quality of what you are being asked to commit to.... :(
Yep- I think if they were confident in the quality of their schedule they would take a pay as you go basis.... I can see why they haven't but why not give the subscriber the option to cancel at any time? I know there not going to chase you through the courts for £60 but it reeks of contingency.
The Dark Destroyer wrote:
Are they asking for six months up front or to sign on to pay for six months but actually pay for it monthly?
i'd imagine the latter
Whether you pay 6 months up front or have to pay monthly for a minimum 6 months isn't the issue for me, its the fact that you have no idea about the quality of what you are being asked to commit to.... :(
It's certainly not going to help that the schedule for the first month looks increasingly bare with the George Groves injury. £20 worth of subs (up to the end of January) currently provides Helenius-Chisora, Cotto-Margarito, Groves-Guerrero, Saunders v TBA and Ormond v Johanneson. Yikes.
Thats me definatly out. You'd be better going on a monthly basis- updating your schedule reguarly and letting people decide if they want to pay or not each month.
I'll catch it by other means
Same as you Jeff,im not signing up for 6months
Looks like i wont be watching FW fighters for a while...
I will not be subscribing to a channel for a minimum 6 month contract when I have no idea what I will be paying for or what the quality will be like. When the history of this promoter is littered with mismatched fights, late pull outs and shoddy replacements then there is no way I will be paying. A channel which relegates the fighters on it to a tiny minority audience is bad for the sport and its future. I of course offer my apologies to Steve Bunce, as clearly I am not a "proper fan".
Surely It be paid as part of my virgin deal. Otherwise this could cause allsorts of problems. If I wanted the Adult channel thats done through virgin I dont pay thme direct why is this different? This will really struggle.
leforge wrote:Surely It be paid as part of my virgin deal. Otherwise this could cause allsorts of problems. If I wanted the Adult channel thats done through virgin I dont pay thme direct why is this different? This will really struggle.
Is there a cost implication of paying through your TV provider? If allegedly want to retain the same profit per subscriber then they'd probably have to charge a higher fee to cover the processing cost charged to them by Sky/Virgin.
How can you ask someone to sign up for 6 months with no guarentee of what you are showing I liked allegedly at the start but its getting worse by the day
leforge wrote:Surely It be paid as part of my virgin deal. Otherwise this could cause allsorts of problems. If I wanted the Adult channel thats done through virgin I dont pay thme direct why is this different? This will really struggle.
Is there a cost implication of paying through your TV provider? If Allegedly channel want to retain the same profit per subscriber then they'd probably have to charge a higher fee to cover the processing cost charged to them by Sky/Virgin.
But your deal is with Virgin who do you ring if channel not working? This makes no sense also asking for people to sign up for 6 months .
Virgin customers: you can sign up in advance for allegedly's new subscription service here http://goo.gl/Yyz8m
Looking at the form, it seems Virgin customers can book through Virgin and the fine print indicates that allegedly upgrades must be kept for at least 30 days. No mention of a 6 month handcuff.
earsjohn wrote:@Allegedly channel has just tweeted
Virgin customers: you can sign up in advance for Allegedly channel's new subscription service here http://goo.gl/Yyz8m
Looking at the form, it seems Virgin customers can book through Virgin and the fine print indicates that Allegedly channel upgrades must be kept for at least 30 days. No mention of a 6 month handcuff.
Apart from Cotto night of fight there no other boxing in December worth subcribing too.
Basically, we are being asked to paying £60 for one decent US card on December 3rd and Chisora Vs Helenius all on the same night. Groves being out means we'll get to see DeGale vs a TBA and Saunders fighting a bum on the other half decent card, if you can call it that.
We've no idea what January will bring, so the first £20 is money for a couple of half decent cards and one of the cards won't kick off until the early hours of the morning being from the US. It's money for nothing.
Who in their right mind would tie into a 6 month contract with no knowledge of what they are getting apart from the mentioned above? Either allegedly shows the Jan/Feb Schedules before it kicks off or I won't be subscribing and even then I'm not that keen.
I'm all ready paying for Sky Sports, ESPN has fight nights coming back in January, EuroSport and Channel 5 are also showing the odd night here and there. That's not to mention the fights screened live on the internet that are about and the older fights you can access. There is only so much boxing you can watch 'Live'.
allegedly just hasn't got the depth at the minute, it's making us pay PPV for average cards. It's going to bomb big time.
ScottDetonator wrote:Basically, we are being asked to paying £60 for one decent US card on December 3rd and Chisora Vs Helenius all on the same night. Groves being out means we'll get to see DeGale vs a TBA and Saunders fighting a bum on the other half decent card, if you can call it that.
We've no idea what January will bring, so the first £20 is money for a couple of half decent cards and one of the cards won't kick off until the early hours of the morning being from the US. It's money for nothing.
Who in their right mind would tie into a 6 month contract with no knowledge of what they are getting apart from the mentioned above? Either Allegedly Channel shows the Jan/Feb Schedules before it kicks off or I won't be subscribing and even then I'm not that keen.
I'm all ready paying for Sky Sports, ESPN has fight nights coming back in January, EuroSport and Channel 5 are also showing the odd night here and there. That's not to mention the fights screened live on the internet that are about and the older fights you can access. There is only so much boxing you can watch 'Live'.
Allegedly Channel just hasn't got the depth at the minute, it's making us pay PPV for average cards. It's going to bomb big time.
Big Saureland card in February few Euro titles on it. Also think Degal v Sanavia EBU defence in February after the knock over job he fights on Decemebr 9th.
Some posters have hinted that they will watch illegal streams instead of subscribing.
I think, with the availability of streams and even pay sites that offer good quality streams for a lot less than what warren is charging, this channel will struggle. I would estimate that a lot of posters will be watching streams rather than paying. the problem for BN is that it's pretty impossible to stop illegal streaming.
allahsnackbar wrote:Some posters have hinted that they will watch illegal streams instead of subscribing.
I think, with the availability of streams and even pay sites that offer good quality streams for a lot less than what warren is charging, this channel will struggle. I would estimate that a lot of posters will be watching streams rather than paying. the problem for BN is that it's pretty impossible to stop illegal streaming.
No one on this site watches illegal streams,how dare you
allahsnackbar wrote:Some posters have hinted that they will watch illegal streams instead of subscribing.
I think, with the availability of streams and even pay sites that offer good quality streams for a lot less than what warren is charging, this channel will struggle. I would estimate that a lot of posters will be watching streams rather than paying. the problem for BN is that it's pretty impossible to stop illegal streaming.
The likes of iTunes and other MP3 stores have proven that it's possible to charge for a product that can be found illegally and still make money. The public are generally law abiding and will willingly pay over 'stealing'. There is a balance, however, and the comments on this thread alone suggest that the costs of the service are not in line with the service to be provided. Hence people will justify the use of a stream or other means to watch the fights.
I liked allegedly at the start but its getting worse by the day