Easy start to a pro career

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Jan 2012, 16:49

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

anyone find a better one?

pnejon · Post by **pnejon** » 20 Jan 2012, 17:04

now that was tough....

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

cant beat that but tough first 5 or 6 for our Johnny.....

flogger · Post by **flogger** » 20 Jan 2012, 19:40

certainly a tough ask ,maybe one for boxrec editors to up date biography page and give us a little insight into his amateur career.he must of had some form on his side.

johnnygreaves · Post by **johnnygreaves** » 20 Jan 2012, 20:09

What johnny are you referring to?

Craig14 · Post by **Craig14** » 21 Jan 2012, 03:38

Indonesian Hasan Ambon had a crazy career. Of his nine fights, he fought 7 different fighters, 4 went onto win versions of a world title. Two fought for a version of a world title and the other was national champ. Not surprisingly he finished 0-9(2).

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 21 Jan 2012, 05:04

johnnygreaves wrote:What johnny are you referring to?

i'm guessing its meant to be you

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... r&pageID=1

johnnygreaves · Post by **johnnygreaves** » 21 Jan 2012, 06:51

I was thinking they meant me, I learned all I needed about surviving & getting through in my first 6 to last my whole 78 fights . Tuff start but educational

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 21 Jan 2012, 07:07

johnnygreaves wrote:I was thinking they meant me, I learned all I needed about surviving & getting through in my first 6 to last my whole 78 fights . Tuff start but educational

I only had a handful of amateur fights, and before the first one the advice i got was "Keep your hands up, jab and don't forget to f*cking move"

tear up · Post by **tear up** » 21 Jan 2012, 07:07

johnnygreaves wrote:I was thinking they meant me, I learned all I needed about surviving & getting through in my first 6 to last my whole 78 fights . Tuff start but educational

johnny whats your aim mate

johnnygreaves · Post by **johnnygreaves** » 21 Jan 2012, 07:18

My aim has always been 100 fights . I was an ok am. But got my education in gyms & on the unlicensed circuit. Knew I weren't great but also that I was tough as old boots . Never really hurt in 50 & was British champ. Got nothing from school & needed a way to feed my kids. Not much opportunity for a good job . Choose to use my body doing something I know. Fighting . I love my job. Even with the record. I'm dead proud.

tear up · Post by **tear up** » 21 Jan 2012, 07:30

johnnygreaves wrote:My aim has always been 100 fights . I was an ok am. But got my education in gyms & on the unlicensed circuit. Knew I weren't great but also that I was tough as old boots . Never really hurt in 50 & was British champ. Got nothing from school & needed a way to feed my kids. Not much opportunity for a good job . Choose to use my body doing something I know. Fighting . I love my job. Even with the record. I'm dead proud.

respect to you mate seen ya at ya job ya make it look easy at what ya do mate

johnnygreaves · Post by **johnnygreaves** » 21 Jan 2012, 09:22

Thanks mate! See that's the thing. Some lads think going in , standing in front & taking shots & being tuff makes them a good journeyman. I learned that that ain't the way. Make em work for it , but stay out of agg . I've no need to prove my chin anymore!

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 21 Jan 2012, 12:14

Old bones Ian wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

anyone find a better one?

Not surprised he packed it in!

manno · Post by **manno** » 21 Jan 2012, 12:39

Who was his manager? Boris Karloff?

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 21 Jan 2012, 12:42

Rafael Marquez fought Victor Rabanales in his debut... Rabanales had over 50 wins by then and was a former world champion...

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 21 Jan 2012, 13:37

I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

iamasadlittleboy · Post by **iamasadlittleboy** » 21 Jan 2012, 14:32

Yohei Tobe has had a solid start to his career
Debut against the then Korean champion
Then a former world champion (Wandee Singwancha)
Then a 2 time title contender (Kohei Kono)

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

How about Marcela Eliana Acuna?
Debuted against Christy Martin...then faced Lucia Rijker
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Akbar Mohammadpour (I think this is the premier contender for a male)
Debuted against Singsurat then faced Wonjongkam!
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Danny Sutton
Faced wonjongkam then Panomroonglek Kaiyarn Hadaogym twice
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Ego Yohan
Did the same as above but fought Panomroomglek first
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

tear up · Post by **tear up** » 21 Jan 2012, 14:35

Old bones Ian wrote:I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

what a crowd how many fight s had duran had there great shots to finish the fight

Superheavy · Post by **Superheavy** » 21 Jan 2012, 14:40

Old bones Ian wrote:I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

Thanks for doing that mate. Suero actually didn't look too bad (for a debutant) until he got comprehensively sparked!

Mighty Atom · Post by **Mighty Atom** » 21 Jan 2012, 18:43

Superheavy wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp
Thanks for doing that mate. Suero actually didn't look too bad (for a debutant) until he got comprehensively sparked!

Isn't this the same guy?
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

WestEndRiot · Post by **WestEndRiot** » 21 Jan 2012, 20:57

Random question Johnny, your second pro fight against Dean Harrison, how do you get a score of 55-50 from a 6 rounder? Surely a mistake on Boxrec's part.

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 21 Jan 2012, 21:04

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Tho I have an inkling he's had more fights than that unless he has the worlds cruelest manager.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 21 Jan 2012, 21:13

it's almost like the Eric Crumble mystery, great finds there lads. if its the same guy what a record!!!

saturday_kid · Post by **saturday_kid** » 22 Jan 2012, 08:51

johnnygreaves wrote:Thanks mate! See that's the thing. Some lads think going in , standing in front & taking shots & being tuff makes them a good journeyman. I learned that that ain't the way. Make em work for it , but stay out of agg . I've no need to prove my chin anymore!

Alright Johnny,

Never realised your 1st 2 fights were against Midlands based lads.

Anyway really admire your honesty and have seen you fight (mainly in the midlands) a fair few times and on TV and can honestly say your the best at what you do mate, always give the audience good value for money (can be a cheeky git sometimes, the home crowd loves a pantomine villian) and always give the lads you fight a proper education.

You may not have won any belts mate but dont think people dont recognise what you've done in the sport fella.

johnnygreaves · Post by **johnnygreaves** » 22 Jan 2012, 12:02

Most other journeyman would disagree, I try my best to have a go but don't think having a war is gonna help my cause . I try to entertain. Some journeyman are like watching paint dry. It's a hard job to make em work, entertain but not get beaten up in the process

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