Tyson Fury Vacates Titles.

[Happy Slapper]

Problem is, the Fury v Price fight may now be lost forever. I expect Fury to be beaten at some point and probably not by someone particularly high up the heavyweight ladder. If/once that happens, there's nothing in this fight. They should have got it done ala DeGale v Groves - it's not the end of their careers and is a massive fight at this point in time. I don't think this fight will get much bigger than it is now.

Shame Mick/Tyson have bottled it.

[tear up]

cant belive he s vacated the belt s before pricey gets to him big shock to me

[Exoddus]

Fury has ducked Price as everybody on here though he would. At least we know what Tyson and his team think of his ability.

Mick submitted an offer before purse bids as he knew Maloney would turn it down. Frank Maloney wanted to bid but Mick has got Fury to vacate before the bidding started as his “offer” was rejected.

If Mick thought £100,000 was a great offer. Why didn't he wait for the purse bid? It's because he knew Maloney would turn it down in favour of bidding himself. Then Mick could put the blame on Maloney/Price to try and to create a smoke screen for which is simply Tyson (or more likely his team) ducking Price.

This is just my take on things. As others have said the £100,000 probably included "options" that Mick new Frank Maloney couldn't possibly accept.

[tear up]

Fury has ducked Price as everybody on here though he would. At least we know what Tyson and his team think of his ability.

Mick submitted an offer before purse bids as he knew Maloney would turn it down. Frank Maloney wanted to bid but Mick has got Fury to vacate before the bidding started as his “offer” was rejected.

If Mick thought £100,000 was a great offer. Why didn't he wait for the purse bid? It's because he knew Maloney would turn it down in favour of bidding himself. Then Mick could put the blame on Maloney/Price to try and to create a smoke screen for which is simply Tyson (or more likely his team) ducking Price.

This is just my take on things.

were was fury s fightin man image fight anyone big big shock i thought he would of fought him and your right what ya sayin about the offer shame shame

[earsjohn]

How's about this for Price:

- Audley Harrison for the vacant UK title
- Defence against someone like Sexton, Larry, Towers
- 2nd defence to gain the title outright against Chisora on the comeback trail
- Dimitrenko for the EBU
- EBU defence against Helenius / Pulev / Boytsov depending on who is around at that stage
- World title challenge
- World title defence v Tyson Fury (Price TKO 1)

The key is keeping busy - the above schedule over 18 months would be great, but the same over 27 months would be less appealing.

[Camcas]

The silence made it obvious that Fury was scared of Price here

[ScottDetonator]

I'd expect Price to now pick up the titles and sit at the top of the tree in the UK,

hopefully looking great in the process.

I agree with the first bit, but not the second bit !

This could actually set Price back.

Over the next 2 years he will pick up the British / Commonwealth titles and have 4 or 5 fights against lesser domestic opposition ("I can only beat who is in front of me" blah blah blah), and then the next move depends on whether the Klitchkos are still knocking around.

In an ideal world I would like to see him fight Fury, and whoever wins uses it as a springboard to move up a level.

David Price has had 12 fights and boxed 32 rounds, and a few of those were only half rounds. He needs a good couple of domestic fights for the experience. It's not a set back at all.

I think it's more of a set back for Fury. He's had a decent following on Channel 5 but most people I've spoken to (sport fans in general) know he's not the real deal and going to be beaten soon. Which ever way you look at it, they are ducking Price. Do we think he'd vacate the titles if the mandatory was Sam Sexton?

Before Fury fought Chisora, he was saying how much the British Title would mean to him and how great the history was behind it, so great it seems that he can't even defend it once?

It's funny but you could see this situation being reversed in a couple of years time because I'm betting that once Fury's bubble has burst, he'll be chasing the British title again. The pressure is now on Fury's camp because unless they are lining up high ranking heavyweights, the question will be asked, why did you choose to fight him and not David Price?

[yiddo14]

Anyone think Tyson will now sit and wait for a title shot now? Knock over a couple of padded records then fight Vitali or Wlad?

Would be better for him to lose to the champ and earn very well in the process than to lose to Price in a British title fight for relative peanuts.

I like your schedule earjohn but who is Price fighting for world title? ( assuming he can get past Dimitrenko and Helenius/Pulev, both of whom had his number as ams didn't they? )

[Exoddus]

Pretty much what I posted then.

[Deano s]

we knew it would happen but now it has im still Peed right off lets hope the two titles are split up and we get some good domestic fights for them obviously price is fav to win them from any of the current crop, so bloody angry polotics gets in the way again

[earsjohn]

Anyone think Tyson will now sit and wait for a title shot now? Knock over a couple of padded records then fight Vitali or Wlad?

Would be better for him to lose to the champ and earn very well in the process than to lose to Price in a British title fight for relative peanuts.

I like your schedule earjohn but who is Price fighting for world title? ( assuming he can get past Dimitrenko and Helenius/Pulev, both of whom had his number as ams didn't they? )

Given the timings, it'll probably still be a Klitschko, although with people starting to recognise Povetkin, that's a potential route.

I don't rate Dimitrenko and Helenius was shown up by Chisora. I think Price has improved more since his Am days than some of the others, so that may no longer be relevant.

[Dirk Kelly]

Do you class Lennox Lewis as a British Olympian even though he won his medal representing Canada?

[yiddo14]

Anyone think Tyson will now sit and wait for a title shot now? Knock over a couple of padded records then fight Vitali or Wlad?

Would be better for him to lose to the champ and earn very well in the process than to lose to Price in a British title fight for relative peanuts.

I like your schedule earjohn but who is Price fighting for world title? ( assuming he can get past Dimitrenko and Helenius/Pulev, both of whom had his number as ams didn't they? )

Given the timings, it'll probably still be a Klitschko, although with people starting to recognise Povetkin, that's a potential route.

I don't rate Dimitrenko and Helenius was shown up by Chisora. I think Price has improved more since his Am days than some of the others, so that may no longer be relevant.

I like Big David but he will get splattered if he shares a ring with Wlad ( Vitali will be gone by then )

[Glass Joe]

I was looking forward to this fight but knew due to boxing politics it wasn't going to happen. As a business wouldn't of it of been better if Tyson - Price happened on channel 5. The fight would of been a media magnet and 5+ million would of tuned in probably giving channel 5 highest viewing figures. If price did a number on fury then he would be glassed as the next Lewis by frank and the media. Price could then go onto selling out arenas and probably get a shot at the Klitschkos and maybe then be promoted to a sky box office fighter. i would like to see Price vs Towers for the vacant belts.

[earsjohn]

Anyone think Tyson will now sit and wait for a title shot now? Knock over a couple of padded records then fight Vitali or Wlad?

Would be better for him to lose to the champ and earn very well in the process than to lose to Price in a British title fight for relative peanuts.

I like your schedule earjohn but who is Price fighting for world title? ( assuming he can get past Dimitrenko and Helenius/Pulev, both of whom had his number as ams didn't they? )

Given the timings, it'll probably still be a Klitschko, although with people starting to recognise Povetkin, that's a potential route.

I don't rate Dimitrenko and Helenius was shown up by Chisora. I think Price has improved more since his Am days than some of the others, so that may no longer be relevant.

I like Big David but he will get splattered if he shares a ring with Wlad ( Vitali will be gone by then )

Tomorrow? Yes. In six or seven fights and a couple of years time? A lot can happen over that sort of time frame. I'm not saying it s a definate but if price continues his improvement through European ranked opponents, then competitiveness in a world title fight is a reasonable expectation.

[danfoster]

1) I understand that the offer Mick made to Price was definitely 100k - no strings attached. Emails exist which back this up 100%.

2) Mick is clearly (and quite rightly) very keen to maintain Fury's momentum on C5 and personally i'd love to see this type of fight routinely taking place on terrestial TV. If Audley v Danny Williams got 8m God knows what this fight could do with the right promotion and the right title on the line ...

3) Richard Towers is not boxing Fury, i believe he is boxing the German champion who i believe is unbeaten with a high KO percentage - the fight is for the EU title ... the German's name has slipped my mind but i can get it if people want it!

[jaywillo1983]

Do people really have to debate on the real reasons he has vacated the titles. He is a complete shithouse. And the argument about getting price on terrestrial tv is a load of rubbish, lets face it, 99% of the population have sky anyway, its not as if it would of been PPV. Fury hasnt even got the lonsdale belt for keeps yet, so why on earth would he vacate the titles unless he knew he was going to be beat.

People will have different opinions, but surely everyone would agree that price would demolish fury, and also surely people realise that fury is actually a terrible boxer.

[JC]

Do people really have to debate on the real reasons he has vacated the titles. He is a complete shithouse. And the argument about getting price on terrestrial tv is a load of rubbish, lets face it, 99% of the population have sky anyway, its not as if it would of been PPV. Fury hasnt even got the lonsdale belt for keeps yet, so why on earth would he vacate the titles unless he knew he was going to be beat.

People will have different opinions, but surely everyone would agree that price would demolish fury, and also surely people realise that fury is actually a terrible boxer.

Not even close, I would bet it's still less than 50% and not all of them will subscribe to the sports channels. It's no excuse for the fight not happening, but there is definitely an upside for Price of fighting Fury on Ch5.

[Deano s]

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[yiddo14]

Given the timings, it'll probably still be a Klitschko, although with people starting to recognise Povetkin, that's a potential route.

I don't rate Dimitrenko and Helenius was shown up by Chisora. I think Price has improved more since his Am days than some of the others, so that may no longer be relevant.

I like Big David but he will get splattered if he shares a ring with Wlad ( Vitali will be gone by then )

Tomorrow? Yes. In six or seven fights and a couple of years time? A lot can happen over that sort of time frame. I'm not saying it s a definate but if price continues his improvement through European ranked opponents, then competitiveness in a world title fight is a reasonable expectation.

Tomorrow or 18-24 months down the line, it's still the same result. Wlad's always been a level above everyone else during his career ( bar Lennox of course but he is an ATG ) both am and pro.

[earsjohn]

I like Big David but he will get splattered if he shares a ring with Wlad ( Vitali will be gone by then )

Tomorrow? Yes. In six or seven fights and a couple of years time? A lot can happen over that sort of time frame. I'm not saying it s a definate but if price continues his improvement through European ranked opponents, then competitiveness in a world title fight is a reasonable expectation.

Tomorrow or 18-24 months down the line, it's still the same result. Wlad's always been a level above everyone else during his career ( bar Lennox of course but he is an ATG ) both am and pro.

Roy Jones has always been a level above Danny Green / Denis Lebedev but didn't stop him getting splattered when he decided to fight on too long. I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but in 2 years time, with Vitali long retired and Wlad having seen off every credible challenger, is it not at least possible to believe that he will have descended far enough to be at or about the same level as a guy who is 20-0 or so and has developed into a fine world class fighter?

[danfoster]

And the argument about getting price on terrestrial tv is a load of rubbish, lets face it, 99% of the population have sky anyway, its not as if it would of been PPV.

Mate I am not knocking Sky (i love their coverage of boxing and commitment to the sport, unlike other channels) but you are MILES off here. On a good night, Sky Sat Night Fights gets 300 - 500k viewers for the MAJOR fights (of which this would be one).

C5 gets TEN TIMES that number. Seriously.

Boxing needs terrestial TV and although Fury might not be the greatest fighter in the world, he has exciting punch ups and has an interesting back-story in this era of fascination with Gypsys. He's good news for British boxing mate and this fight with Price could be ENORMOUS in due course and do wonders for the sport if on terrestial tv.

[TJ77]

Do people really have to debate on the real reasons he has vacated the titles. He is a complete shithouse. And the argument about getting price on terrestrial tv is a load of rubbish, lets face it, 99% of the population have sky anyway, its not as if it would of been PPV. Fury hasnt even got the lonsdale belt for keeps yet, so why on earth would he vacate the titles unless he knew he was going to be beat.

People will have different opinions, but surely everyone would agree that price would demolish fury, and also surely people realise that fury is actually a terrible boxer.

Agreed

[john welsh]

I dont understand how anyone can see price winning anway...come on furys been tested by top guys in the sport and fought his way from some close calls to knocking the guys out taking their unbeaten records with them.
I`l put my life savings on it by saying price gets rocked by a journeyman in his next fight and everyone stops the hype and writes him off.he has not been tested and nearly got ko`d in his first fights..watch

plus fury is 23 and still developing where as price is 28 and should be in his prime.fury has also had 5 more fights than him even though they turned pro the same time.
belshaw vs fury if you want to see price vs fury.

[freddydoesdallas]

Maybe Price should turn up at ringside at his next fight and start taking his top off whilst offering him a 'straightner' outside. Worked for Fury with Chisora